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ESPCamaro
post Jun 19 2005, 11:23 PM
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MY GOD did anyone see what happened. The USGP started SIX CARS. All Michilin tired cars took a warm up lap then parked.

Probably the death of a USGP for a few years.



Sheesh and some people say that the SCCA and NASCRAP is a political mess.....
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post Jun 23 2005, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 23 2005, 05:33)
If I recall, Senna's death occured on an early practice day. The chicane was built in time for all teams to learn the new curse configuration. It wasn't erected 2 hours before grid and in mid-turn, rather on a straight section with plenty of run-off.

I'm not siding with either side.

I am saying that we are hearing what either side WANTS us to hear.

Actually he died about 10 laps into the San Marino GP earlier that year.

Anyhow I believe Stoddart said Michelin was working with the teams to design the chicane so that it would be safe for the drivers. They also proposed giving them 3 practice laps in the morning for them to used to it. However, Toyota responded stating that Truli's car didn't have enough fuel for 3 laps (no wonder he got pole). Not that it mattered anyways...

No F1 isn't autocrossing but F1 drivers aren't your average autocrosser either. They're supposed to be the best of the best, if they can go to a new circut and learn it within a handful of laps I would think an extra chicane would be no big deal for them.

FWIW I am not really siding with anyone either. I'm just trying to show that its not as simple as blaming Michlein or the FIA, both parties had a hand in what happened Sunday.
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ESPCamaro   USGP. What a political POS race.   Jun 19 2005, 11:23 PM
trackbird   I missed it. Tire issues (based on what I could ga...   Jun 19 2005, 11:33 PM
y5e06   I would have so amazingly pissed if I had paid goo...   Jun 20 2005, 12:37 AM
firehawkclone   Only toyota had an issue(ok 2) and 1 was under bra...   Jun 20 2005, 12:43 AM
SuperMacGuy   It was a joke.. I have some Le Mans and Champ Car ...   Jun 20 2005, 01:52 AM
rmackintosh   ...In my opinion F1 has been a bad joke for MANY y...   Jun 20 2005, 03:43 AM
conemark   I was truly baffled by the childish way that this ...   Jun 20 2005, 10:42 AM
axoid   I was there yesterday and I would like to thank th...   Jun 20 2005, 12:40 PM
sgarnett   Michelin definitely screwed up; no doubt about it....   Jun 20 2005, 03:17 PM
rmackintosh   I don't see why all the people are coming down...   Jun 20 2005, 04:18 PM
beuke23   I personally would still put the blame on Michelin...   Jun 22 2005, 02:56 AM
nape   I watched part of qualifying but that was it. Wha...   Jun 22 2005, 04:40 AM
trackbird   [devil's advocate mode on] Ok....It sucks, I ...   Jun 22 2005, 12:24 PM
robz71lm7   All professional sports suck imo. I'd much ra...   Jun 22 2005, 12:28 PM
Soma07   Below are the words of Paul Stoddart of Minardi. I...   Jun 22 2005, 12:43 PM
trackbird   I wonder what that letter will cost him (fines, et...   Jun 22 2005, 01:03 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 22 2005, 07:24)[devil...   Jun 22 2005, 01:58 PM
trackbird   Though, the brake pad "problem" is the c...   Jun 22 2005, 02:25 PM
mitchntx   Designing and building a chicane hours before the ...   Jun 22 2005, 02:28 PM
CMC#5   Wow...Paul has some balls publishing things like t...   Jun 22 2005, 02:31 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 22 2005, 09:28)Also mis...   Jun 22 2005, 02:52 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (CMC#5 @ Jun 22 2005, 09:31)As to wethe...   Jun 22 2005, 03:02 PM
mitchntx   Clarification: Reasons behind they took a "h...   Jun 22 2005, 03:03 PM
beuke23   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 22 2005, 10:52)It...   Jun 22 2005, 06:10 PM
rmackintosh   ....that IS the problem... EVERYONE did what ...   Jun 22 2005, 06:56 PM
beuke23   QUOTE EVERYONE did what "they had to"......   Jun 22 2005, 07:33 PM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   I disagree with being able to add a chicane to the...   Jun 22 2005, 10:08 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ Jun 22...   Jun 23 2005, 12:22 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 22 2005, 10:03)I realiz...   Jun 23 2005, 12:36 AM
Soma07   QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ Jun 22...   Jun 23 2005, 03:40 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Soma07 @ Jun 22 2005, 21:40)QUOTE (35t...   Jun 23 2005, 05:54 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (Soma07 @ Jun 22 2005, 21:40)QUOTE (35t...   Jun 23 2005, 11:33 AM
sgarnett   The chicane might have been erected two hours befo...   Jun 23 2005, 01:10 PM
mitchntx   That would've been a good thing to do ... In ...   Jun 23 2005, 01:13 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 22 2005, 09:28)We'r...   Jun 23 2005, 01:13 PM
y5e06   QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ Jun 22...   Jun 23 2005, 01:16 PM
Soma07   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 23 2005, 05:33)If I rec...   Jun 23 2005, 02:27 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (Soma07 @ Jun 23 2005, 08:27)its not as...   Jun 23 2005, 03:07 PM
beuke23   On a side note, the only bright thing that happen...   Jun 23 2005, 06:49 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (beuke23 @ Jun 23 2005, 12:49)On a side...   Jun 23 2005, 09:30 PM
ESPCamaro   I've got to get ready for Oscoda Pro Solo. Mor...   Jun 23 2005, 10:20 PM
Absolut Speed   RE: USGP. What a political POS race.   Jun 24 2005, 04:50 PM
CMC #37   RE: USGP. What a political POS race.   Jun 26 2005, 05:52 AM
Teutonic Speedracer   RE: USGP. What a political POS race.   Jun 27 2005, 02:12 AM

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