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Formula WS6
post Jun 23 2005, 03:52 PM
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Well I don't have any links for the info since I am on dial up right now and its slow enough as it is.

The supreme court has just ruled that city and county governments can take your land and turn it over to private land developers if the new development or business will increase tax revenue. The case that was before the Supreme court involved a group of families in New London, Conn. that have old victorian homes on the river and they are working class folk. A developer wants their land for plush condos and exclusive health clubs. Now the law says the city can take that land from these people. the city was already trying to do this but the people were fighting the ruling obviously. These people have now lost their homes because they were not rich and did not have fancy homes or contribute lots of tax revenue compared to what will be there.

land investments or property investments are now dead as well. if you have prime realstate even if its been in the family for 100 years and a company or big developer wants it but doesnt want to pay your price they can steal it from you legally now. chances are a big developer will be chummy with the local government and a big corporation you know will pull out the stops with their high priced lawyers to get the land as cheaply as possible. it happens everywhere all the time. walmart does it a lot. so now your land which was worth a chunk of change will be taken from you for next to nothing since the governments idea of fair market value will not be anywhere near what its trully worth, and thats if they even give you anything. if they condem it as blight they wont have to pay you. they will claim its unsafe for living.

so those of you that live in nice areas and pay lots in property taxes have some simpathy on us working folk. nothing wrong what so ever with having money and a nice house or property, its just that chances are this law will not affect you. you already pay a lot in taxes and revenue compared to someone who has a small plot and simple house with a view at most going for it. these are the people that will be hurt the most by this ruling.

the only way to fight against this ruling is to make sure your local officials do not agree with emminent domain. they are the only ones who can seize the land and force the land owners to sell or leave. if they don't side with the developers and corporation then your safe. if they do the law now says you lose and you have to leave. there is no fighting it anymore.

only two links i do have are for a couple of organizations that fight emminent domain. if anyone is interested here ya go.

www.ij.org
www.castlecoalition.com i think. try .org if it doesnt work.

ok rant off. if this type of crap keeps up i think ill need to find a new country to live in. maybe the dollar will go far there and i can build my own race course. you are all welcome to come and race if you can get the car there.
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post Jun 28 2005, 09:17 PM
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Oh this could get verrrrry interesting. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif) Take that Souter!

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http://www.freenation.tv/hotellostliberty2.html

Press Release
For Release Monday, June 27 to New Hampshire media
For Release Tuesday, June 28 to all other media

Weare, New Hampshire (PRWEB) Could a hotel be built on the land owned by Supreme Court Justice David H. Souter? A new ruling by the Supreme Court which was supported by Justice Souter himself itself might allow it. A private developer is seeking to use this very law to build a hotel on Souter's land.

Justice Souter's vote in the "Kelo vs. City of New London" decision allows city governments to take land from one private owner and give it to another if the government will generate greater tax revenue or other economic benefits when the land is developed by the new owner.

On Monday June 27, Logan Darrow Clements, faxed a request to Chip Meany the code enforcement officer of the Towne of Weare, New Hampshire seeking to start the application process to build a hotel on 34 Cilley Hill Road. This is the present location of Mr. Souter's home.

Clements, CEO of Freestar Media, LLC, points out that the City of Weare will certainly gain greater tax revenue and economic benefits with a hotel on 34 Cilley Hill Road than allowing Mr. Souter to own the land.

The proposed development, called "The Lost Liberty Hotel" will feature the "Just Desserts Café" and include a museum, open to the public, featuring a permanent exhibit on the loss of freedom in America. Instead of a Gideon's Bible each guest will receive a free copy of Ayn Rand's novel "Atlas Shrugged."

Clements indicated that the hotel must be built on this particular piece of land because it is a unique site being the home of someone largely responsible for destroying property rights for all Americans.

"This is not a prank" said Clements, "The Towne of Weare has five people on the Board of Selectmen. If three of them vote to use the power of eminent domain to take this land from Mr. Souter we can begin our hotel development."

Clements' plan is to raise investment capital from wealthy pro-liberty investors and draw up architectural plans. These plans would then be used to raise investment capital for the project. Clements hopes that regular customers of the hotel might include supporters of the Institute For Justice and participants in the Free State Project among others.

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Logan Darrow Clements
Freestar Media, LLC

Phone 310-593-4843
logan@freestarmedia.com
http://www.freestarmedia.com



And while we're on the subject:

A sports stadium counts as a "necessary" public project right? I see this as a thinly veiled public works project that ultimately benefits the Cowboys. Sure they'll bring in tax money, sure they'll bring in (low paying)jobs, but this reeks just as much as the New London deal.

Why didn't they just move it a few miles south of that congested flustercluck AKA 360 & I-30? Oh that's right, they wanted it by baseball stadium to create a great economic opportunity.

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Arlington Mayor Robert Cluck said he is relieved that the city and the Cowboys can proceed as planned. Since the stadium campaign began late last year, Cluck has said that the city may have to acquire homes through eminent domain to make room for the stadium, which will be owned by the city but operated by the Cowboys.


Yeah, that's a worthwhile public works project.

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Formula WS6   More important than a silly race   Jun 23 2005, 03:52 PM
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