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rpoz-29
post May 8 2006, 10:20 PM
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I'm in the Mid-Atlantic area that is having our gas cut with 10% ethanol. What, if any, effects will this have on my Camaro? I've been told to expect a slight decrease in economy, but will the fuel system have any issues with it? Many years ago, there was a fuel called "Pepco", which was, (I think), 100% ethanol. Being cleaner than petroleum fuel, there were tons of issues with killing fuel filters as it cleaned up the fuel system, as well as causing butyl rubber fuel lines to collapse.
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post May 9 2006, 02:17 AM
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Per the factory manual in my glovebox of my 2002 Z28, the fuel systems were not designed for fuels that contain alcohol. I'm guessing that the rubber lines will eventually deteriorate and need replaced. I expected that anything built in 2000 (or so) would be compatible, but I was wrong.
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post May 10 2006, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (trackbird @ May 8 2006, 08:17 PM) *
Per the factory manual in my glovebox of my 2002 Z28, the fuel systems were not designed for fuels that contain alcohol. I'm guessing that the rubber lines will eventually deteriorate and need replaced. I expected that anything built in 2000 (or so) would be compatible, but I was wrong.


Same story here in the great northeast. We're getting 10 percent ethanol blends phased in in place of MTBE.

But mine (1999 manual) says: "Gasolines containing oxygenates, such as ethers and ethanol, and reformulated gasolines may be available in your area to contribute to clean air. General motors recommends that you use these gasolines, particularly if they comply with specifications described earlier."

(The "earlier," I believe, refers to octane ratings and not using fuel with MMT--methly-something maganese tricarbonyl--added as an octane enhancer.)

But then it says NOTICE: "Your vehicle was not designed for fuel that contains methanol. Don't use it. It can corrode metal parts in your fuel system and also damage plastic and rubber parts. That damage won't be covered under your warranty."

I have no idea what the difference is between methanol and ethanol.

-John
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post May 18 2006, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (Spooner @ May 10 2006, 01:28 PM) *
I have no idea what the difference is between methanol and ethanol.

Methanol is CH3OH.

Ethanol is CH3CH2OH.

Propyl has a third carbon, with the associated hydroxyl group.

And I didn't think my organic chem class would ever come in handy.

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rpoz-29   ethanol blended fuel question   May 8 2006, 10:20 PM
nape   We've had 10% ethanol in our in our fuel forev...   May 9 2006, 01:45 AM
trackbird   Per the factory manual in my glovebox of my 2002 Z...   May 9 2006, 02:17 AM
Spooner   QUOTE (trackbird @ May 8 2006, 08:17 PM) ...   May 10 2006, 05:28 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (Spooner @ May 10 2006, 12:28 PM) I...   May 11 2006, 12:06 PM
CamaroFS34   QUOTE (Spooner @ May 10 2006, 01:28 PM) I...   May 18 2006, 09:11 PM
trackbird   You're right, I lumped "alcohol" int...   May 10 2006, 06:18 PM
pknowles   QUOTE http://www.drivingethanol.org/aspx/what_is.....   May 11 2006, 02:33 PM
rpoz-29   A fellow VMSC member works for the Ethyl corporati...   May 18 2006, 09:53 PM
bluethunder28   QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ May 18 2006, 02:53 ...   May 18 2006, 10:17 PM
rpoz-29   I saw a feature on the news the other night about ...   May 18 2006, 10:51 PM
rushman   I did a bunch of reading about this a few weeks ag...   May 19 2006, 12:56 AM
nape   QUOTE (rushman @ May 18 2006, 07:56 PM) F...   May 19 2006, 02:42 AM
v7guy   Current petrol trends are the ONLY reason we are s...   May 21 2006, 12:05 PM
Runn WS7   I´ve tuned my car to go on 100% E85 and it runs b...   Jun 4 2006, 08:25 AM
rushman   10% blend doesn't cause much power loss. If e...   Jun 4 2006, 12:08 PM
Marty   I lived in Iowa for many years where the state sub...   Jun 6 2006, 11:33 PM

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