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post May 20 2006, 11:24 PM
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Ok so a friend of mine is "giving" me a e30 BMW. It has some rear fender damage and a cracked rear wheel.

But we need to rebuild the I6 motor, and I wwant to slap a turbo on it. But the question is are there any actual race classes for W2W racing for these things? If there is I want to stay within the rules.

So any advice? Heard they made a forged crank for the diesel models and the diesel used the same block and the diesel manifold can be bolted up to it for the turbo.
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post May 21 2006, 03:59 AM
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the NASA Spec e30 looks too restrictive on rules... you can't go from a 405hp vette to a 168hp e30 and have fun on WGI. I NEED POWER.

cross-post. I guess I need an ECU...
http://www.e30tech.com/forum/viewtopic.php...ghlight=#272588

I also need to fix the fender.
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post May 22 2006, 02:24 AM
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Howdy,

QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ May 20 2006, 09:59 PM) *
the NASA Spec e30 looks too restrictive on rules... you can't go from a 405hp vette to a 168hp e30 and have fun on WGI. I NEED POWER.

cross-post. I guess I need an ECU...
http://www.e30tech.com/forum/viewtopic.php...ghlight=#272588

I also need to fix the fender.


Aren't you the guy who's always bitching about being broke autocrossing?

And you're going roadracing?

And you're wanting something powerful?

What's wrong with you?

Mark
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post May 22 2006, 03:34 AM
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QUOTE (marka @ May 21 2006, 08:24 PM) *
Howdy,

Aren't you the guy who's always bitching about being broke autocrossing?

And you're going roadracing?

And you're wanting something powerful?

What's wrong with you?

Mark


Yeah I was broke until I got my tax return in April...

I think I am braindead or I killed too many brain cells in Russia.

Well a "free" car pushed me over the edge. It's my friend's fault. He's liek I bought you a BMW... (yes we are nuts)

in any case, my tow vehicle runs on used fryer oil, so cost of getting to events is almost 0
my co-driver for the pros is supplying many tires at no cost to me

and this BMW is free for me, so the only real cost is shocks, springs, bars, brakes & tires.
then I need to look carefully at BMW's contingency program

I'm managing to break even autocrossing this year (or close enough to it) by being smart about which class to earn the most kumho money and having a few paying co-drivers along the way.
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Howdy,

QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ May 21 2006, 09:34 PM) *
and this BMW is free for me, so the only real cost is shocks, springs, bars, brakes & tires.
then I need to look carefully at BMW's contingency program


FWIW, the "free" Mustang I got back in 2000 for CP has cost me $18k and currently doesn't move under its own power.

That's $18k in parts only mind you, and doesn't include the parts I had for a while and sold.

Prepping a car (and I suspect particularly a BMW) for reliable track duty is going to cost some reasonable money (figure $2k for a cage/seat... And that's assuming you can do the cage yourself). Then safety gear for the driver is in the $2k range as well (Hans, drivers suit, helmet, gloves, boots, etc.).

BMW motors that I've had experience with are _not_ cheap to build and that's assuming you're just trying to build a reliable stock motor, not some crazy supercharged thing.

Suspension parts for a bmw seem to cost more than most anything else I've played with, both stock and aftermarket.

Don't get me wrong, if you can afford it and want to do it... Go for it! But the "This should be cheap fun" vibe I'm getting has _never_ worked in my experience.

Mark
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35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   road racing e30's???   May 20 2006, 11:24 PM
Soma07   QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ May 20...   May 21 2006, 12:09 AM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   just had a thought... ONE LAP OF AMERICA!...   May 21 2006, 01:14 AM
Ojustracing   QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ May 20...   May 21 2006, 01:27 AM
JKnight   E30s are a blast to drive. Much more light and nim...   May 21 2006, 02:21 AM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   the NASA Spec e30 looks too restrictive on rules.....   May 21 2006, 03:59 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS ...   May 22 2006, 02:24 AM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   QUOTE (marka @ May 21 2006, 08:24 PM) How...   May 22 2006, 03:34 AM
BigEnos   QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ May 21...   May 22 2006, 01:32 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS ...   May 22 2006, 02:50 PM
patred   QUOTE (marka @ May 22 2006, 10:50 AM) Don...   May 23 2006, 12:16 PM
jensend   Lower HP cars can produce respectable times at WGI...   May 21 2006, 01:41 PM
wdtiger   I had an '84 318i. That car was a lot of fun t...   May 21 2006, 08:13 PM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   i really want to go road racing. All road course c...   May 21 2006, 10:43 PM
Shortcutsleeping   Race cars, boats, and aircraft. Things with reaso...   May 22 2006, 07:37 PM
jensend   First rule of performance: "How much do you w...   May 23 2006, 01:04 AM
nape   QUOTE (jensend @ May 22 2006, 08:04 PM) F...   May 23 2006, 02:44 AM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   well obviously my first priorities are safety ...   May 23 2006, 06:43 AM
wdtiger   Hey, he is Chapter 11 Racing, afterall. lol. I gue...   May 23 2006, 06:53 AM

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