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CMC #37 View Member Profile	Jun 21 2006, 02:28 AM Post #2
CMCer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,932 Joined: 12-February 04 From: the sticks near VIR Member No.: 194	I don't know, but brother-in-law pit crew and I have wondered when someone is going to bring a V6 to AI!

nape View Member Profile	Jun 21 2006, 10:43 PM Post #3
Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,511 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Homer Glen, IL Member No.: 540	QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Jun 20 2006, 09:28 PM) I don't know, but brother-in-law pit crew and I have wondered when someone is going to bring a V6 to AI! It's been done. Ted Schwartz in the OH-IN region ran a 4.3L Chevy in his '99+ Mustang for a while. Not sure the specifics on it, but he's got a 302-based motor in it now... that popped a head gasket at MAM on Sunday. Just like the saying, it ran really well before it went though... [edit] And my input on a really light AI car is that it would probably get run down at the end of long straightaways where aero is playing a bigger factor then weight. It is tempting to try it though... This post has been edited by nape: Jun 21 2006, 10:45 PM

Lucas Black View Member Profile	Jun 22 2006, 02:59 AM Post #4
Dry Sponge Group: Advanced Members Posts: 169 Joined: 1-March 04 From: Houston, Tx. Member No.: 259	QUOTE (nape @ Jun 21 2006, 05:43 PM) QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Jun 20 2006, 09:28 PM) I don't know, but brother-in-law pit crew and I have wondered when someone is going to bring a V6 to AI! It's been done. Ted Schwartz in the OH-IN region ran a 4.3L Chevy in his '99+ Mustang for a while. Not sure the specifics on it, but he's got a 302-based motor in it now... that popped a head gasket at MAM on Sunday. Just like the saying, it ran really well before it went though... [edit] And my input on a really light AI car is that it would probably get run down at the end of long straightaways where aero is playing a bigger factor then weight. It is tempting to try it though... i agree about the possibility of it getting run down in the straightaways. Right along with that, while the others are having to brake, would the v6 car with a severe weight advantage (and comparable abilities as far as brake setup/susp., etc.) be able to go so much deeper into the corner to maybe compensate? the exit speeds it would be able to obtain might be advantageous enough so that the v8 cars, while having more power, might not be enough to compensate having to make up the speed they didn't have coming out of the corners and then their need to brake earlier into the next. i'm sure on some courses the v6 AI car would shine more so than on others, but that's the gamble.

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roadracetransam No minimum weight in AI for a V6 powerd car Jun 21 2006, 02:21 AM

CMC #37 I don't know, but brother-in-law pit crew and ... Jun 21 2006, 02:28 AM

nape QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Jun 20 2006, 09:28 PM) I... Jun 21 2006, 10:43 PM

Lucas Black QUOTE (nape @ Jun 21 2006, 05:43 PM) QUOT... Jun 22 2006, 02:59 AM

Glenn98ZM6 well i have gotten a 95 V8/T-56 car to 2800 under ... Jun 21 2006, 02:44 AM

roadracetransam QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jun 20 2006, 07:44 PM... Jun 21 2006, 03:15 AM

pknowles QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jun 20 2006, 10:44 PM... Jun 21 2006, 11:46 AM

Glenn98ZM6 CMC is 3200 minimum w/ driver for 4th gens. i had ... Jun 21 2006, 04:02 AM

roadracetransam Less confused now. Anyway, I am not looking to par... Jun 21 2006, 04:23 AM

CMC#5 V6?? You don't need more than 4!! Kee... Jun 21 2006, 03:03 PM

JKnight AI rules are here: http://www.nasaproracing.com/r... Jun 21 2006, 03:07 PM

Silverback QUOTE (JKnight @ Jun 21 2006, 09:07 AM) S... Jul 10 2006, 09:46 AM

BigEnos 3rd gens came with 4-cylinders, although it was th... Jun 21 2006, 03:37 PM

CMC #37 QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jun 21 2006, 10:37 AM) 3... Jun 21 2006, 03:49 PM

pknowles QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Jun 21 2006, 11:49 AM) Q... Jun 21 2006, 04:06 PM

BigEnos QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Jun 21 2006, 09:49 AM) Q... Jun 21 2006, 07:32 PM

Lucas Black the more i think about it, the more i wish i had t... Jun 21 2006, 04:30 PM

Shortcutsleeping While we are on hypotheticals... Drop a generatio... Jun 22 2006, 03:58 AM

nape Costas: IIRC, the LS1 is a lighter motor then the... Jun 22 2006, 10:08 PM

Glenn98ZM6 the thing is, all V-8 cars have a minimum of 2800 ... Jun 22 2006, 11:54 PM

Mojave QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jun 22 2006, 06:54 PM... Jun 23 2006, 12:05 AM

roadracetransam QUOTE Why a 4th gen chassis? I agree with Costas:... Jun 23 2006, 07:28 AM

trackbird QUOTE (roadracetransam @ Jun 23 2006, 03... Jun 23 2006, 01:46 PM

nape 2800 with driver after a race is still damn light ... Jun 23 2006, 12:04 AM

Glenn98ZM6 i will not debate the advantage/disadvantage of 3r... Jun 23 2006, 10:13 PM

nape QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jun 23 2006, 05:13 PM... Jun 24 2006, 02:34 AM

JKnight I poked around to try to find out what an Lt1 and ... Jun 23 2006, 11:59 PM

JKnight Since we're now on the subject, is there an af... Jun 24 2006, 04:50 AM

98_1LE SVO Mustang was the first thing I thought of when ... Jun 25 2006, 07:11 PM

v7guy VFN offers a hatch for the camaro, it's a pin ... Jun 26 2006, 12:12 PM

nape I just found the page I wanted to reference earlie... Jun 27 2006, 03:24 AM

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roadracetransam View Member Profile	Jun 21 2006, 02:21 AM Post #1
Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 689 Joined: 8-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 1,201	So that got me thinking. How light could one get an f-body. According to the 9.5:1 weight to power ratio 200rwhp car weight 1900 lbs. It could be quite easy to turn, brake ect. that little weight on 275 tires and 14" willwood rotors. Shouldn't it? Can one get an f-body under 2000lbs?