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post Jun 21 2006, 02:21 AM
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So that got me thinking. How light could one get an f-body. According to the 9.5:1 weight to power ratio 200rwhp car weight 1900 lbs. It could be quite easy to turn, brake ect. that little weight on 275 tires and 14" willwood rotors. Shouldn't it? Can one get an f-body under 2000lbs?
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post Jun 22 2006, 11:54 PM
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the thing is, all V-8 cars have a minimum of 2800 in AI. if it was a V-6 or smaller, then there is no minimum. i'm thinking a turbo 6 from a 3rd gen or buick in a 4th gen chassis w/ the T5. hell, even the 4.3 V6 would be cool.
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post Jun 23 2006, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jun 22 2006, 06:54 PM) *
the thing is, all V-8 cars have a minimum of 2800 in AI. if it was a V-6 or smaller, then there is no minimum. i'm thinking a turbo 6 from a 3rd gen or buick in a 4th gen chassis w/ the T5. hell, even the 4.3 V6 would be cool.


Why a 4th gen chassis? I agree with Costas: 3rd gens are lighter to start with, so why bother dealing with a 4th gen? 3rd gens are cheaper to start with too!
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post Jun 23 2006, 07:28 AM
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Why a 4th gen chassis? I agree with Costas: 3rd gens are lighter to start with, so why bother dealing with a 4th gen? 3rd gens are cheaper to start with too!


I don't now 3rd gen's.
Is there is significan improvement in suspension design in a 4th gen vs a 3rd gen?
Are they pretty much the same car, different body?
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post Jun 23 2006, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (roadracetransam @ Jun 23 2006, 03:28 AM) *
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Why a 4th gen chassis? I agree with Costas: 3rd gens are lighter to start with, so why bother dealing with a 4th gen? 3rd gens are cheaper to start with too!


I don't now 3rd gen's.
Is there is significan improvement in suspension design in a 4th gen vs a 3rd gen?
Are they pretty much the same car, different body?


Yea, you can actually work on a third gen (I've owned both, even built a race car out of a third gen once). The front suspension is a strut setup instead of the upper and lower a arms, but the cars handle well and it works. I'd start with a third gen and make it a Firebird body for better aero. We're down on HP (with a 6 cyl) and need all the help we can get.
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roadracetransam   No minimum weight in AI for a V6 powerd car   Jun 21 2006, 02:21 AM
CMC #37   I don't know, but brother-in-law pit crew and ...   Jun 21 2006, 02:28 AM
nape   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Jun 20 2006, 09:28 PM) I...   Jun 21 2006, 10:43 PM
Lucas Black   QUOTE (nape @ Jun 21 2006, 05:43 PM) QUOT...   Jun 22 2006, 02:59 AM
Glenn98ZM6   well i have gotten a 95 V8/T-56 car to 2800 under ...   Jun 21 2006, 02:44 AM
roadracetransam   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jun 20 2006, 07:44 PM...   Jun 21 2006, 03:15 AM
pknowles   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jun 20 2006, 10:44 PM...   Jun 21 2006, 11:46 AM
Glenn98ZM6   CMC is 3200 minimum w/ driver for 4th gens. i had ...   Jun 21 2006, 04:02 AM
roadracetransam   Less confused now. Anyway, I am not looking to par...   Jun 21 2006, 04:23 AM
CMC#5   V6?? You don't need more than 4!! Kee...   Jun 21 2006, 03:03 PM
JKnight   AI rules are here: http://www.nasaproracing.com/r...   Jun 21 2006, 03:07 PM
Silverback   QUOTE (JKnight @ Jun 21 2006, 09:07 AM) S...   Jul 10 2006, 09:46 AM
BigEnos   3rd gens came with 4-cylinders, although it was th...   Jun 21 2006, 03:37 PM
CMC #37   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jun 21 2006, 10:37 AM) 3...   Jun 21 2006, 03:49 PM
pknowles   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Jun 21 2006, 11:49 AM) Q...   Jun 21 2006, 04:06 PM
BigEnos   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Jun 21 2006, 09:49 AM) Q...   Jun 21 2006, 07:32 PM
Lucas Black   the more i think about it, the more i wish i had t...   Jun 21 2006, 04:30 PM
Shortcutsleeping   While we are on hypotheticals... Drop a generatio...   Jun 22 2006, 03:58 AM
nape   Costas: IIRC, the LS1 is a lighter motor then the...   Jun 22 2006, 10:08 PM
Glenn98ZM6   the thing is, all V-8 cars have a minimum of 2800 ...   Jun 22 2006, 11:54 PM
Mojave   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jun 22 2006, 06:54 PM...   Jun 23 2006, 12:05 AM
roadracetransam   QUOTE Why a 4th gen chassis? I agree with Costas:...   Jun 23 2006, 07:28 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (roadracetransam @ Jun 23 2006, 03...   Jun 23 2006, 01:46 PM
nape   2800 with driver after a race is still damn light ...   Jun 23 2006, 12:04 AM
Glenn98ZM6   i will not debate the advantage/disadvantage of 3r...   Jun 23 2006, 10:13 PM
nape   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jun 23 2006, 05:13 PM...   Jun 24 2006, 02:34 AM
JKnight   I poked around to try to find out what an Lt1 and ...   Jun 23 2006, 11:59 PM
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