[Spooner]

I have a daily driver 01 Ford Ranger 4x4, which needs some brake work.

I've been looking at Hawk HPS pads. I like them in my other cars. But I'm wondering if they have enough bite for a heavy truck?

Hawk now makes some heavy duty truck/SUV pads as well, but I don't know anyone who has tried them. I'm open to other brands, but I know these work well and they're easy to get... (On edit, no plans for towing anything.)

Also, any suggestions on rear shoes to match? The drums are warped, so I'll be replacing those at the same time.

The truck shocks thread worked out pretty really well, FWIW. So I figured I'd try asking about brakes.

I ended up with Bilstein HDs, which are working out very well. They and got rid of the herky-jerky ride of the old (almost 100K mile) OEM shocks and ride quite nicely--not to firm, not too soft. (Thanks Sam.)

-John

This post has been edited by Spooner: Jun 24 2006, 02:01 PM

[firehawkclone]

I just use Performace Friction's from Autozone on my 98 Sonoma (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Cheap with a warranty (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I just came back from BRP were I ran this 4000lb truck on the 3 mile 20 something turn track in 95 deg heat with no fade! I'm using a C4 HD Baer setup on the front.

[Spooner]

I just use Performace Friction's from Autozone on my 98 Sonoma (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Cheap with a warranty (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I just came back from BRP were I ran this 4000lb truck on the 3 mile 20 something turn track in 95 deg heat with no fade! I'm using a C4 HD Baer setup on the front.

You know you're hardcore when you've got a big brake kit on your pickup. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Performance friction--I hadn't thought of that one. Great idea.

Sean, I think I have Bosch calipers. Isn't PBR Metalmaster the same as Axxis? I am pretty sure it is. If so, yes.

I am the only one that didn't seem to like the PBRs for high-speed autocrossing. I switched to Hawk HP+ and I like those a lot better. Daily driving is something different, though, I know...

-John

[sgarnett]

Sean, I think I have Bosch calipers. Isn't PBR Metalmaster the same as Axxis? I am pretty sure it is. If so, yes.

I am the only one that didn't seem to like the PBRs for high-speed autocrossing. I switched to Hawk HP+ and I like those a lot better. Daily driving is something different, though, I know...

I have no idea whether Axxis is just a retail brand for PBR, or another company that gets at least some of their pads from PBR. Yes, My PBRs came in an Axxis box; I just don't want jump to any conclusions.

I like the PBR Metal Master Axxis pads better than the HPS because they dust less and squeel less for daily driving, and they are more consistent from beginning to end for an autocross run. They bite and modulate well. The HPS pads would drop off some by the end of a run (and that was with Castrol SRF fluid).

Kevin didn't like the Metal Masters either, though.

I have heard that they are sensitive to being bedded in properly. I installed them along with new rotors at the same time, and basically followed the break-in instructions as closely as possible (except that the rotors were supposed to be broken in with used pads and vice-versa).

I don't think I'd want the HP+ for daily driving, but I haven't tried them.