[beuke23]

I came back from the kitchen from making myself iced coffee, and there's JPM and Ganassi talking to the press.

Holy cow. I remembered when Jacques couldn't find a ride and considered NASCAR.

Just stunned me.

[rmackintosh]

Oh, don't get me wrong....you throw that much money at me and I WOULD DRIVE one of them things....I could even hit Cruise Control and sleep through most of it..... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

That is the problem with NASCAR, and most professional sports these days in my opinion....too much is "forgiven" because of the money involved.....a high school kid skips college to go to the NBA and its always...."you can't blame the kid.....he is just doing what's right for him/his family...." JPM in NASCAR is similar...his talents are wasted driving in circles with a bunch of good 'ol boys....although they are slowly getting replaced with "real" drivers....but "in principle" he should showcase his talents AS A ROAD RACER in some other venue....problem is...the money is in NASCAR, and we all say....." I don't blame him for doing it....:


....sigh....and the circus goes on.....F1 is a circus too.....at least it is more along the lines of Cirque du Soliel and not Circus Vargas!

This post has been edited by rmackintosh: Jul 12 2006, 03:53 PM

[marka]

Howdy,

JPM in NASCAR is similar...his talents are wasted driving in circles with a bunch of good 'ol boys....although they are slowly getting replaced with "real" drivers

Um, yeah....

So in a little over a year's time then, we should expect JPM to be the champ right? Since he's a "real" driver?

Please.

You don't need to like the format or the series or the marketing, but any one of the Nextel drivers would most likely dominate in any form of auto racing they chose to participate in.

Mark

[rmackintosh]

Howdy,

JPM in NASCAR is similar...his talents are wasted driving in circles with a bunch of good 'ol boys....although they are slowly getting replaced with "real" drivers

Um, yeah....

So in a little over a year's time then, we should expect JPM to be the champ right? Since he's a "real" driver?

Please.

You don't need to like the format or the series or the marketing, but any one of the Nextel drivers would most likely dominate in any form of auto racing they chose to participate in.

Mark

Have you seen a NASCAR race at Sears Point in person?....no.....on TV maybe?....2/3's of the field is EMBARASSING.....all week long the "back packers" whine like a bunch of second graders whose cookies and milk got taken away because they have to ACTUALLY make a right hand turn for Heaven's sake...and shifting they talk like it is a FOREIGN concept or something....forget about threshold braking.....it is lost on them. I do give NASCAR credit at Sears for one thing.....10 years ago....98% of the drivers were pathetic, with only 2 or 3 respectable cars....today, there are maybe 10-15 respectable drivers......out of 42.

I have been to probably 95% of the NASCAR races at Sears Point since they came here...and seen them all.....

....you REALLY think "any one of the Nextel drivers would dominate in any form of auto racing"? I would like to see Kyle Petty win ANY type of motorsport event....be it Nextel or remote control cars for that matter...much less a local SCCA regional championship.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif)

There is no doubt that Nextel drivers are skilled "drivers".....most likely I wouldn't even be able to touch the slowest of them at what they do....as you have noted JPM and many others WAAAAAAY better than me have tried and failed. However, a NASCAR race is a VERY, VERY specialized format/skill set. No REAL braking, shifting, or even steering much....it is a test of how one can master that LIMITED skill set, how much "opportunity" they are given, and for SURE it is a test of endurance....but to say most of the NASCAR drivers would be champions at ANY form of motorsport is being VERY much biased.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)