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beuke23
post Jul 9 2006, 04:08 PM
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I came back from the kitchen from making myself iced coffee, and there's JPM and Ganassi talking to the press.

Holy cow. I remembered when Jacques couldn't find a ride and considered NASCAR.

Just stunned me.
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rpoz-29
post Jul 14 2006, 05:25 PM
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I believe that most professional racers can perform well in any venue they set their minds to, if they're from NHRA, NASCAR, SCCA, SCORE, IRL, USAC, F1, etc. Regardless of their venue, they have all learned to control their vehicles. And I would think that that would go a long way in crossing over. That and a ton of humility, and patience. Just my .02 (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jul 14 2006, 05:30 PM
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Howdy,

QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ Jul 14 2006, 11:25 AM) *
I believe that most professional racers can perform well in any venue they set their minds to, if they're from NHRA, NASCAR, SCCA, SCORE, IRL, USAC, F1, etc. Regardless of their venue, they have all learned to control their vehicles. And I would think that that would go a long way in crossing over. That and a ton of humility, and patience. Just my .02 (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


Yes, I'd agree.

I'd also add that I'd expect the venue that paid the best would likely be where the best talent would accumulate.

And last I checked, NASCAR paid the best of anyone else in the USA.

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post Jul 14 2006, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE (marka @ Jul 14 2006, 12:30 PM) *
Howdy,

QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ Jul 14 2006, 11:25 AM) *

I believe that most professional racers can perform well in any venue they set their minds to, if they're from NHRA, NASCAR, SCCA, SCORE, IRL, USAC, F1, etc. Regardless of their venue, they have all learned to control their vehicles. And I would think that that would go a long way in crossing over. That and a ton of humility, and patience. Just my .02 (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


Yes, I'd agree.

I'd also add that I'd expect the venue that paid the best would likely be where the best talent would accumulate.

And last I checked, NASCAR paid the best of anyone else in the USA.

Mark



If what you guys say is true, then the road racers mentioned before.....most of them accomplished and ALL of them professional....would have been able to work their way into NASCAR. They don't BECAUSE of the reasons I mention above. Motorsports, like all sports, are becoming increasingly specialized. The guys who ACTUALLY have a shot at crossing over are FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. Problem is....NASCAR is so popular/competitive....that when a road racer trying to "extend his driving years" enters NASCAR he is rarely, if ever given the best opportunity/equipment/etc....so THAT combined with his/her learning curve dooms him/her.

Yes unfortunately NASCAR is "where the money is" and it CONTINUALLY sucks talented drivers away from other, IMHO complete, forms of racing. You think some of these drivers would even be in NASCAR if the $$$ weren't there????? Tony Stewart started in IRL, and early on made it clear he thought open wheel was for him and was more for a "driver's driver". He switched for the almighty dollar. I could name many, many more if I took the time to look into it. Boris Said is another example...as much as I love the guy...he has "changed himself" to try and get in on the NASCAR gravy train. Listening to him now in interviews, he has gone super politically correct, and become almost worshipful of the drivers and the sport....if you followed him you know that is not REALLY him....he used to basically call Paul Gentillozi a worthless hack and a goon in pre race interviews in Trans-AM, and then go bang the shit out of him on the track for an hour or so (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ....he is changing his style to fit in the NASCAR mold...and THAT is sad...only redemption is to go out and WIN! He has made good strides in only a few races with NO BIG help....
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beuke23   Juan Pablo to Nascar...!   Jul 9 2006, 04:08 PM
Rob Hood   I was quite surprised too. Maybe Jeff Gordon coul...   Jul 9 2006, 06:07 PM
AndyJ   QUOTE (Rob Hood @ Jul 9 2006, 01:07 PM) I...   Jul 9 2006, 07:15 PM
killer_bluebird   QUOTE (AndyJ @ Jul 9 2006, 01:15 PM) I th...   Jul 9 2006, 10:16 PM
Teutonic Speedracer   QUOTE (killer_bluebird @ Jul 9 2006, 06:1...   Jul 10 2006, 10:57 AM
77chevy   Wasn't Jeff at Monaco also? But then again ev...   Jul 10 2006, 04:12 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (Rob Hood @ Jul 9 2006, 02:07 PM) ....   Jul 11 2006, 01:49 AM
LT4Firehawk   Gordon was talking to the commentators during the ...   Jul 10 2006, 02:14 PM
beuke23   QUOTE (Rob Hood @ Jul 9 2006, 02:07 PM) I...   Jul 10 2006, 10:32 PM
killer_bluebird   QUOTE QUOTE (beuke23 @ Jul 10 2006, 04:32...   Jul 11 2006, 12:01 AM
beuke23   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Jul 10 2006, 09:49 PM...   Jul 11 2006, 02:22 PM
LT4Firehawk   Just heard last night, now Danica is thinking abou...   Jul 11 2006, 02:37 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (LT4Firehawk @ Jul 11 2006, 10:37 A...   Jul 11 2006, 04:07 PM
rmackintosh   .....sigh.....I hate to see it.....not a big F1 fa...   Jul 12 2006, 05:00 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 12 2006, 01:00 A...   Jul 12 2006, 12:14 PM
rmackintosh   Oh, don't get me wrong....you throw that much ...   Jul 12 2006, 03:51 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 12 2006, 09...   Jul 13 2006, 09:39 PM
AllZWay   QUOTE (marka @ Jul 13 2006, 04:39 PM) How...   Jul 13 2006, 10:00 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (AllZWay @ Jul 13 2006, 05:00 PM) Q...   Jul 14 2006, 04:18 AM
patred   QUOTE (AllZWay @ Jul 13 2006, 06:00 PM) E...   Jul 14 2006, 12:50 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (marka @ Jul 13 2006, 04:39 PM) How...   Jul 14 2006, 04:01 AM
CMC #37   Now JPM will have to learn to utter "Git r do...   Jul 12 2006, 04:47 PM
LT4Firehawk   I really think JPM would have rather stayed in F1,...   Jul 13 2006, 09:28 PM
Rob Hood   Kyle Petty won Watkins Glen in the Grand American ...   Jul 14 2006, 07:04 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Rob Hood @ Jul 14 2006, 02:04 AM) ...   Jul 14 2006, 04:59 PM
CMC #37   I'm with Randy on this one...everytime I hear ...   Jul 14 2006, 05:15 PM
rpoz-29   I believe that most professional racers can perfor...   Jul 14 2006, 05:25 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ Jul 14 2006, 11...   Jul 14 2006, 05:30 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (marka @ Jul 14 2006, 12:30 PM) How...   Jul 14 2006, 05:54 PM
CMC #37   QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ Jul 14 2006, 12:25 ...   Jul 14 2006, 05:33 PM
rpoz-29   I agree with you. And dollars are why JPM, Danica ...   Jul 14 2006, 05:41 PM
Jeff97FST/A   I was reading one of those 10-question interviews ...   Jul 14 2006, 07:51 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jeff97FST/A @ Jul 14 2006, 02:51 P...   Jul 14 2006, 08:08 PM
Jeff97FST/A   Only reason I say you can't blame Boris for ta...   Jul 14 2006, 10:18 PM
Rob Hood   Stewart was in ovals long before NASCAR - so wha...   Jul 15 2006, 02:22 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Rob Hood @ Jul 14 2006, 09:22 PM) ...   Jul 15 2006, 03:58 AM
Rob Hood   I'm good with street races It was Tony Georg...   Jul 15 2006, 04:55 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Rob Hood @ Jul 14 2006, 11:55 PM) ...   Jul 15 2006, 06:10 AM
patred   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 15 2006, 02:10 A...   Jul 17 2006, 02:00 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (patred @ Jul 17 2006, 09:00 AM) QU...   Jul 17 2006, 04:31 PM
beuke23   Damn Randy, don't hold back! I would say...   Jul 16 2006, 01:06 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (beuke23 @ Jul 15 2006, 08:06 PM) D...   Jul 16 2006, 03:30 AM

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