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post Aug 6 2006, 12:32 AM
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Ok guys, I have been at Beaver Run all day with the AV8SS guys. I also had a chance to sit down with the race director and assistant race director and discuss ideas for events. We talked about all kinds of things and I need input.

First. Would anyone be interested in a time trial event at the road courses. Off the top of my head, we were discussing something like a warm up lap, fast lap, cool down lap and doing multiple runs per day (think "large scale autocross", several runs, etc). And, if you would be interested in such a series, what kind of entry fee might get you guys to come out. Meaning, if it's $500 per car, and 2 cars show up, there's no point. If we make it less (and we'd be planning on it....trust me), at what point would people be interested in coming to try it, and would people be interested in such a format? It would not be a "coned off" road course, it would be a single "flying lap" with a warm up and cool down on each end.

Second. HPDE time. I'm trying to work something out for an HPDE format that would be affordable, but we'd need cars to keep the prices down. I know we like HPDE's here, don't we?

Third. I was discussing the frrax track day idea that we've been bouncing around for the last year or so. We talked about pairing it with an AV8SS weekend. We'd need to find where to hold it (Summit Point, Nashville, and VIR were discussed, but we'd be open to others). Any input?
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post Aug 6 2006, 02:02 AM
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I love my car on a road course.

And that's the problem.

I haven't done an open track event in a couple of years. I am not willing to put a roll bar in my daily driver, and I can't upgrade the brakes, etc. because it's an FS car. But, I've gotten to the point on a road course where I can't push myself the way I want to because the brakes only last 4-5 laps at Summit Point before I have to give it up due to serious fade (and this is with fresh high temp brake fluid). I can't drive as hard as I really want because in the back of my mind, I'm thinking of what could happen in one of those gravel traps without at least a roll bar.

It has nothing to do with expense, and everything to do with how much I'm willing to risk. And I'm not going to have as much fun driving at 70-80% to compensate for the lack of brakes and bar.

Karen
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trackbird   Would the autocrossers consider "time trials"   Aug 6 2006, 12:32 AM
slowTA   For me, an autocross is most fun beacuse you'r...   Aug 6 2006, 12:50 AM
CamaroFS34   I love my car on a road course. And that's th...   Aug 6 2006, 02:02 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (CamaroFS34 @ Aug 5 2006, 10:02 PM)...   Aug 6 2006, 03:00 AM
CamaroFS34   QUOTE (trackbird @ Aug 5 2006, 11:00 PM) ...   Aug 7 2006, 07:50 PM
mitchntx   I was NASA's Texas region Time Trial Co-direct...   Aug 6 2006, 02:50 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 5 2006, 08...   Aug 7 2006, 02:53 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (marka @ Aug 6 2006, 10:53 PM) Man,...   Aug 7 2006, 03:19 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (trackbird @ Aug 6 2006, 10:19 PM) ...   Aug 7 2006, 03:23 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (trackbird @ Aug 6 2006, 09...   Aug 7 2006, 03:25 AM
nape   How was the car count for AV8SS? I heard a rumor t...   Aug 6 2006, 03:52 AM
trackbird   I don't know of them cancelling any events so ...   Aug 6 2006, 11:23 PM
cccbock   QUOTE (trackbird @ Aug 5 2006, 08:32 PM) ...   Aug 7 2006, 12:20 AM
trackbird   Thanks Bock. We're not looking for 200 car fi...   Aug 7 2006, 01:44 AM
mitchntx   What's a typical weekend's schedule? HPDE...   Aug 7 2006, 02:59 AM
Eugenio_SS   would convertibles be welcomed ?   Aug 7 2006, 04:15 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Aug 7 2006, 12:15 PM)...   Aug 7 2006, 04:24 PM
Eugenio_SS   i'd go for the fun of doing some track... newe...   Aug 7 2006, 04:46 PM
killer_bluebird   I'm going to throw my ideas out there. It seem...   Aug 7 2006, 07:05 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (killer_bluebird @ Aug 7 2006, 02:0...   Aug 7 2006, 10:19 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 7 2006, 04...   Aug 7 2006, 10:30 PM
trackbird   That's the kind of info we're looking for....   Aug 7 2006, 07:28 PM
Mojave   For this past weekend with Nasa, 2 days of TT was ...   Aug 7 2006, 10:24 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (Mojave @ Aug 7 2006, 05:24 PM) For...   Aug 8 2006, 01:19 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 7 2006, 07...   Aug 8 2006, 02:33 AM
killer_bluebird   QUOTE (marka @ Aug 7 2006, 08:33 PM) You ...   Aug 8 2006, 03:09 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (marka @ Aug 7 2006, 09:33 PM) You ...   Aug 8 2006, 01:49 PM
Eugenio_SS   but time behind the wheel is also much greater too...   Aug 8 2006, 12:31 AM
trackbird   I was using 1/8" of pad material per pad on t...   Aug 8 2006, 02:04 AM
trackbird   Nitto is a sponsor of AV8SS and they sell the tire...   Aug 8 2006, 03:29 AM
Ojustracing   Hey how about this, 2 hpde sessions, 1 recon, 3 ti...   Aug 8 2006, 04:41 AM
trackbird   I like it.   Aug 8 2006, 12:17 PM
z28tt   I'm not keen on the 8 runs a day autox schedul...   Aug 8 2006, 01:05 PM
Absolut Speed   My thing is having advanced notice. I've got ...   Aug 10 2006, 04:20 AM
firehawkclone   NASA's TT program started in Socal were I run,...   Aug 10 2006, 02:00 PM

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