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post Sep 15 2006, 12:16 PM
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post Sep 18 2006, 01:05 AM
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Please define a "now banned gun". It's a damn broad definition. Let's try enforcing the laws currently on the books before we discuss the possibility of "rounding up now banned guns", and "make owning them illegal". By the Feds definition, a Ruger 10-22 is an "assault weapon". I too have a concealed weapon permit, and will put my capability in handgun handling/safety up against any law enforcement people I know. What ruffles my feathers in discussions such as these, are opinions voiced by people who may not have the same appreciation for guns/gun safety that some of us do, but are more than willing to see them taken away from those of us with a passion for them. My '02 Z will go a damn sight faster than any posted speed limit in this country......should it be banned, or simply governed to a maximum speed of 70mph? Okay, my rant is over...I feel better now.....time to watch Washington and Dallas.

Bill...who would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

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post Sep 18 2006, 01:56 AM
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Howdy,

QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ Sep 17 2006, 07:05 PM) *
Please define a "now banned gun". It's a damn broad definition. Let's try enforcing the laws currently on the books before we discuss the possibility of "rounding up now banned guns", and "make owning them illegal".


Um, I _did_ define it. It was hypothetically anything other than a three shot rifle or shotgun.

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By the Feds definition, a Ruger 10-22 is an "assault weapon". I too have a concealed weapon permit, and will put my capability in handgun handling/safety up against any law enforcement people I know.


I'm not concerned about your ability to control your gun primarily as the mechanics are fairly simple, I'm concerned with your ability to judge when to deploy it and what to do when that happens (and tangentally how to prevent your attacker from getting your gun). You might be just great. Or you might be horrible. But chances are you've never been required to have training in that area even though you have a concealed permit.

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What ruffles my feathers in discussions such as these, are opinions voiced by people who may not have the same appreciation for guns/gun safety that some of us do, but are more than willing to see them taken away from those of us with a passion for them.


? Did you read any of my posts? Certainly there are people that know plenty more about guns and related topics than I do, but I'm not someone that's never handled a gun, is afraid of guns, doesn't know anything about them, etc. I frankly enjoy shooting guns of all types and like to hunt occassionally. I just don't believe those hobbies should outweigh the issues related to non-hunting weapons.

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My '02 Z will go a damn sight faster than any posted speed limit in this country......should it be banned, or simply governed to a maximum speed of 70mph? Okay, my rant is over...I feel better now.....time to watch Washington and Dallas.

Bill...who would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.


When's the last time a z28 was used by a whacko to kill a group of people randomly? And, when you manage to find a situation that sorta resembles that, was the person intending that result or did they "just" lose control?

And frankly, your postscript there is the type of machismo that scares me about regular folks carrying guns in public. It indicates to me that you may very well not evaluate options other than deadly force when seriously confronted. That may well be wrong and you're talking tounge in cheek (and I very much hope that I'm reading more into the statement than is really there), but you hear it enough times and it starts to scare you.

Mark
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Eugenio_SS   I hate guns   Sep 15 2006, 12:16 PM
CJ-TA   Although I agree with you about the guns (I really...   Sep 15 2006, 12:58 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (CJ-TA @ Sep 15 2006, 08:58 AM...   Sep 15 2006, 04:18 PM
AllZWay   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Sep 15 2006, 11:18 AM...   Sep 15 2006, 04:26 PM
AllZWay   People that want to kill don't have to have a ...   Sep 15 2006, 01:08 PM
BigEnos   I could think of 5 or 6 things to say to support m...   Sep 15 2006, 01:22 PM
firehawkclone   I'm so glad your wife wasn't harmed in any...   Sep 15 2006, 01:27 PM
bubba353z   Eugenio - glad to hear your wife is OK. Guns are ...   Sep 15 2006, 04:22 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (bubba353z @ Sep 15 2006, 12:22 PM)...   Sep 15 2006, 08:22 PM
slowTA   It is frightening to be near or affected by an eve...   Sep 15 2006, 07:47 PM
v7guy   it's really unfortunate, but as long as human ...   Sep 15 2006, 07:49 PM
jensend   While I don't own any guns, I have to say that...   Sep 15 2006, 08:06 PM
Eugenio_SS   btw, i really appreciate the good words on behalf ...   Sep 15 2006, 09:18 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Sep 15 2006, 05:18 PM...   Sep 16 2006, 05:39 PM
robz71lm7   They'd do it with pipe bombs, knives (there ar...   Sep 16 2006, 03:12 AM
sgarnett   A friend's nephew was the victim of a whacko w...   Sep 16 2006, 12:18 PM
marka   Howdy, My primary issue with non-hunting weapons ...   Sep 16 2006, 04:28 PM
Shortcutsleeping   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 16 2006, 11:28 AM) And...   Sep 16 2006, 05:21 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Sep 16 2006, 01...   Sep 16 2006, 06:10 PM
BigEnos   QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Sep 16 2006, 11...   Sep 16 2006, 08:50 PM
Shortcutsleeping   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Sep 16 2006, 03:50 PM) I...   Sep 18 2006, 07:16 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Sep 16 2006, 04:50 PM) Q...   Sep 18 2006, 07:29 PM
trackbird   My personal views not withstanding, I agree that t...   Sep 16 2006, 10:56 PM
Eugenio_SS   i guess i presented my frustration in a bad way......   Sep 16 2006, 11:20 PM
robz71lm7   QUOTE i guess i presented my frustration in a bad ...   Sep 17 2006, 02:53 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Sep 16 2006, 08...   Sep 17 2006, 11:37 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 17 2006, 07:37 PM) Ove...   Sep 18 2006, 12:25 AM
Mericet   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 17 2006, 08:25 PM)...   Sep 18 2006, 02:09 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (Mericet @ Sep 17 2006, 08...   Sep 18 2006, 02:27 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 17 2006, 10:27 PM) How...   Sep 18 2006, 02:54 AM
rpoz-29   Please define a "now banned gun". It...   Sep 18 2006, 01:05 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ Sep 17 2006, 07...   Sep 18 2006, 01:56 AM
Jon A   Mark, without even touching the deeper more fundam...   Sep 18 2006, 07:21 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (Jon A @ Sep 18 2006, 01:21...   Sep 18 2006, 01:43 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 18 2006, 09:43 AM) Or ...   Sep 18 2006, 01:54 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 18 2006, 07...   Sep 18 2006, 02:34 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 18 2006, 10:34 AM) How...   Sep 18 2006, 02:56 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 18 2006, 10...   Oct 1 2006, 02:20 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 30 2006, 10:20 PM) And...   Oct 1 2006, 02:48 AM
rpoz-29   My postscrip is not "machismo". It is fa...   Sep 18 2006, 01:35 PM
sgarnett   While I don't agree with the NRA stance on eve...   Sep 18 2006, 02:43 PM
BigEnos   RE: I hate guns   Sep 18 2006, 03:06 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Sep 18 2006, 11:06 AM) ...   Sep 18 2006, 03:15 PM
sgarnett   At one time, I was carrying a seven shot .45 becau...   Sep 18 2006, 03:20 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Sep 18 2006, 11:20 AM) ...   Sep 18 2006, 03:26 PM
2000Z-71   A firearm is an inanimate object, a tool, nothing ...   Sep 30 2006, 07:12 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (2000Z-71 @ Sep 30 2006, 0...   Oct 1 2006, 02:10 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 30 2006, 10:10 PM) And...   Oct 1 2006, 02:29 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (sgarnett @ Sep 30 2006, 10...   Oct 1 2006, 02:32 AM
2000Z-71   QUOTE Bombs and their important parts are illegal ...   Oct 1 2006, 04:08 AM
trackbird   Well, so much for my hopes that this would sink in...   Oct 1 2006, 02:14 AM
trackbird   Mark, I wasn't just picking on your post. It w...   Oct 1 2006, 02:48 AM
trackbird   And, again I'll state that it doesn't appe...   Oct 1 2006, 04:11 PM
Eugenio_SS   when the thread was started... i was just pissed @...   Oct 1 2006, 05:29 PM
Shortcutsleeping   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Oct 1 2006, 12:29 PM)...   Oct 1 2006, 06:41 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Oct 1 2006, 01:29 PM)...   Oct 1 2006, 07:12 PM
Mericet   QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 1 2006, 03:12 PM) ...   Oct 5 2006, 03:20 AM
Eugenio_SS   EugeniOwned by english language. worse, I know pra...   Oct 1 2006, 07:06 PM
bsim   My $0.02 - I'll *think* about banning gun...   Oct 5 2006, 02:29 AM
v7guy   this whole thread has been interesting, been readi...   Oct 5 2006, 05:44 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (v7guy @ Oct 5 2006, 01:44 AM) Now ...   Oct 5 2006, 06:10 AM
Absolut Speed   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Oct 5 2006, 01:10 AM) Y...   Oct 5 2006, 06:46 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (Absolut Speed @ Oct 5 2006, 02...   Oct 5 2006, 02:48 PM
robz71lm7   I think we've had equal time here for both sid...   Oct 5 2006, 03:02 PM

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