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post Sep 15 2006, 12:16 PM
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and especially this model: http://www.cx4storm.com/

for those that wounder why:
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my wife works 1 street corner away, and sometimes goes for lunch there... that day, she didn't... Thank God !
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post Sep 16 2006, 04:28 PM
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Howdy,

My primary issue with non-hunting weapons (which I define as any pistol, any gun that can carry more than three rounds, and (in some ways) any semi-auto) is that they easily enable the whacko guy to walk through a crowded place and take out a bunch of people.

Bombs (that work) aren't easy to make and their components are somewhat regulated. Vehicular homicide is difficult to pull off, particularly for more than one or two folks, someone with a knife is gonna have trouble killing more than one person (and that's harder than it is with a gun) before the other folks around are able to run away.

Etc. etc.

I grew up with guns. I like them. I like knowing how to use guns. However, I have to question if "guns are a cool hobby" should outweigh the issues involved with giving whackos easy access to >10 shot weapons designed to kill people.

And I don't put much weight into the whole "right to bear arms" crap. #1, a hunting weapon like I define above is still an "arm". The constitution doesn't meantion the right to bear 10+ shot semi-automatic pistols or AR-15s.

#2, if that were really a good motivation someone would've shot Bush by now.

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post Sep 16 2006, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (marka @ Sep 16 2006, 11:28 AM) *
And I don't put much weight into the whole "right to bear arms" crap.


Err....can we just stop this thread before it turns into a huge GUNS KILL PEOPLE vs PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE debate which has no bearing on our little car forum?

I'd like to respond to the above comment, but really, I'm not going to change Mark's view and he isn't going to change mine....and I'd imagine that everyone here is kinda set in their ways. Maybe we all could go back to discussing cars.

Costas
cars and such...

and the 'such' includes projective weapons
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post Sep 16 2006, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Sep 16 2006, 11:21 AM) *
QUOTE (marka @ Sep 16 2006, 11:28 AM) *

And I don't put much weight into the whole "right to bear arms" crap.


Err....can we just stop this thread before it turns into a huge GUNS KILL PEOPLE vs PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE debate which has no bearing on our little car forum?

I'd like to respond to the above comment, but really, I'm not going to change Mark's view and he isn't going to change mine....and I'd imagine that everyone here is kinda set in their ways. Maybe we all could go back to discussing cars.

Costas
cars and such...

and the 'such' includes projective weapons


I tried, in vain apparently.

Costas, you going to the Big Show?
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post Sep 18 2006, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (BigEnos @ Sep 16 2006, 04:50 PM) *
QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Sep 16 2006, 11:21 AM) *

QUOTE (marka @ Sep 16 2006, 11:28 AM) *

And I don't put much weight into the whole "right to bear arms" crap.


Err....can we just stop this thread before it turns into a huge GUNS KILL PEOPLE vs PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE debate which has no bearing on our little car forum?

I'd like to respond to the above comment, but really, I'm not going to change Mark's view and he isn't going to change mine....and I'd imagine that everyone here is kinda set in their ways. Maybe we all could go back to discussing cars.

Costas
cars and such...

and the 'such' includes projective weapons


I tried, in vain apparently.


And, I appreciate both of your efforts. Thanks guys!
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Eugenio_SS   I hate guns   Sep 15 2006, 12:16 PM
CJ-TA   Although I agree with you about the guns (I really...   Sep 15 2006, 12:58 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (CJ-TA @ Sep 15 2006, 08:58 AM...   Sep 15 2006, 04:18 PM
AllZWay   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Sep 15 2006, 11:18 AM...   Sep 15 2006, 04:26 PM
AllZWay   People that want to kill don't have to have a ...   Sep 15 2006, 01:08 PM
BigEnos   I could think of 5 or 6 things to say to support m...   Sep 15 2006, 01:22 PM
firehawkclone   I'm so glad your wife wasn't harmed in any...   Sep 15 2006, 01:27 PM
bubba353z   Eugenio - glad to hear your wife is OK. Guns are ...   Sep 15 2006, 04:22 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (bubba353z @ Sep 15 2006, 12:22 PM)...   Sep 15 2006, 08:22 PM
slowTA   It is frightening to be near or affected by an eve...   Sep 15 2006, 07:47 PM
v7guy   it's really unfortunate, but as long as human ...   Sep 15 2006, 07:49 PM
jensend   While I don't own any guns, I have to say that...   Sep 15 2006, 08:06 PM
Eugenio_SS   btw, i really appreciate the good words on behalf ...   Sep 15 2006, 09:18 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Sep 15 2006, 05:18 PM...   Sep 16 2006, 05:39 PM
robz71lm7   They'd do it with pipe bombs, knives (there ar...   Sep 16 2006, 03:12 AM
sgarnett   A friend's nephew was the victim of a whacko w...   Sep 16 2006, 12:18 PM
marka   Howdy, My primary issue with non-hunting weapons ...   Sep 16 2006, 04:28 PM
Shortcutsleeping   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 16 2006, 11:28 AM) And...   Sep 16 2006, 05:21 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Sep 16 2006, 01...   Sep 16 2006, 06:10 PM
BigEnos   QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Sep 16 2006, 11...   Sep 16 2006, 08:50 PM
Shortcutsleeping   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Sep 16 2006, 03:50 PM) I...   Sep 18 2006, 07:16 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Sep 16 2006, 04:50 PM) Q...   Sep 18 2006, 07:29 PM
trackbird   My personal views not withstanding, I agree that t...   Sep 16 2006, 10:56 PM
Eugenio_SS   i guess i presented my frustration in a bad way......   Sep 16 2006, 11:20 PM
robz71lm7   QUOTE i guess i presented my frustration in a bad ...   Sep 17 2006, 02:53 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Sep 16 2006, 08...   Sep 17 2006, 11:37 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 17 2006, 07:37 PM) Ove...   Sep 18 2006, 12:25 AM
Mericet   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 17 2006, 08:25 PM)...   Sep 18 2006, 02:09 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (Mericet @ Sep 17 2006, 08...   Sep 18 2006, 02:27 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 17 2006, 10:27 PM) How...   Sep 18 2006, 02:54 AM
rpoz-29   Please define a "now banned gun". It...   Sep 18 2006, 01:05 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ Sep 17 2006, 07...   Sep 18 2006, 01:56 AM
Jon A   Mark, without even touching the deeper more fundam...   Sep 18 2006, 07:21 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (Jon A @ Sep 18 2006, 01:21...   Sep 18 2006, 01:43 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 18 2006, 09:43 AM) Or ...   Sep 18 2006, 01:54 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 18 2006, 07...   Sep 18 2006, 02:34 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 18 2006, 10:34 AM) How...   Sep 18 2006, 02:56 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 18 2006, 10...   Oct 1 2006, 02:20 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 30 2006, 10:20 PM) And...   Oct 1 2006, 02:48 AM
rpoz-29   My postscrip is not "machismo". It is fa...   Sep 18 2006, 01:35 PM
sgarnett   While I don't agree with the NRA stance on eve...   Sep 18 2006, 02:43 PM
BigEnos   RE: I hate guns   Sep 18 2006, 03:06 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Sep 18 2006, 11:06 AM) ...   Sep 18 2006, 03:15 PM
sgarnett   At one time, I was carrying a seven shot .45 becau...   Sep 18 2006, 03:20 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Sep 18 2006, 11:20 AM) ...   Sep 18 2006, 03:26 PM
2000Z-71   A firearm is an inanimate object, a tool, nothing ...   Sep 30 2006, 07:12 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (2000Z-71 @ Sep 30 2006, 0...   Oct 1 2006, 02:10 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 30 2006, 10:10 PM) And...   Oct 1 2006, 02:29 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (sgarnett @ Sep 30 2006, 10...   Oct 1 2006, 02:32 AM
2000Z-71   QUOTE Bombs and their important parts are illegal ...   Oct 1 2006, 04:08 AM
trackbird   Well, so much for my hopes that this would sink in...   Oct 1 2006, 02:14 AM
trackbird   Mark, I wasn't just picking on your post. It w...   Oct 1 2006, 02:48 AM
trackbird   And, again I'll state that it doesn't appe...   Oct 1 2006, 04:11 PM
Eugenio_SS   when the thread was started... i was just pissed @...   Oct 1 2006, 05:29 PM
Shortcutsleeping   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Oct 1 2006, 12:29 PM)...   Oct 1 2006, 06:41 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Oct 1 2006, 01:29 PM)...   Oct 1 2006, 07:12 PM
Mericet   QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 1 2006, 03:12 PM) ...   Oct 5 2006, 03:20 AM
Eugenio_SS   EugeniOwned by english language. worse, I know pra...   Oct 1 2006, 07:06 PM
bsim   My $0.02 - I'll *think* about banning gun...   Oct 5 2006, 02:29 AM
v7guy   this whole thread has been interesting, been readi...   Oct 5 2006, 05:44 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (v7guy @ Oct 5 2006, 01:44 AM) Now ...   Oct 5 2006, 06:10 AM
Absolut Speed   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Oct 5 2006, 01:10 AM) Y...   Oct 5 2006, 06:46 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (Absolut Speed @ Oct 5 2006, 02...   Oct 5 2006, 02:48 PM
robz71lm7   I think we've had equal time here for both sid...   Oct 5 2006, 03:02 PM

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