[Crazy Canuck]

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and especially this model: http://www.cx4storm.com/

for those that wounder why:
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/features...ting/index.html

my wife works 1 street corner away, and sometimes goes for lunch there... that day, she didn't... Thank God !

[Crazy Canuck]

when the thread was started... i was just pissed @ the local events... especially the idiot that had a machine gun to shoot @ random ppl.
guns per say are innofensive if left alone... I guess i wanted to share the frustration.
As for gun control, there will always be 2 sides of the story, and it's not what was intended.
As for what types of guns should be legislated/controlled, indirectly was taken in the thread... can't really say one has a bazooka or automatic gun like the one used for self defense or hunting.
Personally, i'm not too confortable w/ ppl carying guns, but that's my opinion.
We can discuss this forever... and disagree in many tangents.

bottom line, there was a f***ed guy that decided to go to a college and shoot @ random ppl. Cops were pretty fast to control the situation and although 1 person died and several injured, it could've been much worse... and the bastard is dead.
If anything, he should've killed himself 1st before doing any dammage to others.

my only question is: for what purpose does one buy a gun like the one used in this situation, unless he wants to really shoot lots of targets close by at short time-period, such as an ambush.
Do people use these on herds of pray when there are plenty of pray ?

[trackbird]

when the thread was started... i was just pissed @ the local events... especially the idiot that had a machine gun to shoot @ random ppl.

Eugenio, the Beretta Storm isn't really a "machine gun", it's actually just a semi automatic rifle that uses pistol ammo. Honestly, pistol ammo is typically less "effective" than rifle ammo, so if he'd had a higher powered weapon, he might have killed a few more of his victims. Pistols are not good weapons for killing people. I'm not saying that they are not capable, but you will see cases of people shot 4, 5, 6, 7 times or more with a handgun who live. Very few people shot with a rifle caliber more than once will live(without getting into a discussion of where they are shot, I'm speaking of being shot in the torso). You have a much higher chance of causing death with a rifle cartridge in a rifle. Also, the Storm is considerable more expensive (and less readily available) than a standard issue AK-47. Those are 1/2 the price of the beretta, ammo is very inexpensive and they are more powerful with more capacity. I'm surprised he didn't have an AK instead. The Storm seems to be an odd choice (due to cost of the weapon, cost of ammo, and the aren't "everywhere" in circulation like the AK's).

I had actually considered purchasing a Beretta Storm at one point. One of our local ranges was having "Carbine Silhouette" matches, where you have to quickly knock down steel targets (plates) and it required the use of a pistol caliber carbine (carbine=small rifle). And, I thought the Beretta would be a unique item for the job (it's a rifle sized pistol, or, a pistol powered rifle). I believe the Storm is limited (by available magazines) to 15 rounds. Not that 15 rounds isn't "a bunch", but he's have done much more damage with an AR-15 and a 30 or 40 round magazine. It's a higher powered weapon and holds far more ammo. Which brings me to the issue of capacity. Given a 3 round weapon, he'll just have to reload more. It was the same thing during "the ban" here in the states. You were limited to 10 rounds in the magazine (instead of 15+ in some cases), it just meant that every 10 rounds you would toss in a fresh mag instead of every 15. Not much of a hinderance really. It's back to bad people will use guns to do bad things. There isn't much anyone can do to prevent all cases of it. He could have just as easily driven a van or pick up truck across campus and ran down dozens of people. He'd have likely killed more of his victims that way.

A psychopath will be a psychopath, no matter what we try to do to limit their ability to do damage.

I'm glad Tamara was safe.

can i get a portable bazooka for self-defense ? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

You wouldn't want it. It's far to slow and cumbersome to reload..... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Mericet]

can i get a portable bazooka for self-defense ? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

You wouldn't want it. It's far to slow and cumbersome to reload..... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I should tell you about the time I visited Mozambique and saw a soldier patrolling the main road to Maputo (the capital). His firearm of choice: a RPG-7, (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)