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post Sep 15 2006, 12:16 PM
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post Oct 5 2006, 05:44 AM
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this whole thread has been interesting, been reading it since the begining. I love guns and get a huge kick out of the sport aspect (shooting targets). I usually shoot until I can't anymore (black and blue shoulder). I'm typically a pacifist though, to the point I don't eat any form of meat or use any products with animals in it if I can avoid it. I'll spend more money and time to get something that doesn't use animal products if it's available. With that said........I'm not so naive to think that a gun isn't valuable, if someone was trying to rob me I would have no problem shooting them, if an animal was coming after me I would have no problem shooting it. There is a practical application and I'm very aware that I may have to use my weapons someday. I have no problem with that, it's an unfortunate fact of life (if I want to live). Typically the only people we see that has problems with the gun laws are the ones that are trying to obey them. I have to be honest and say that I would have alot easier time defending myself with a handgun than I would my rifle or shotgun, just from a maneuverability standpoint.
Personally, I don't have a problem with something like a 3 round capacity, my 870 supermag I've limited to three rounds even though it will accept 7. But as mentioned, you just reload more, it doesn't take much of any time.

I guess I'm just missing the point of why someone would have a problem with guns. It's been shown over and over that the only people that are impacted by gun laws are the honest guys, the other guys are still going to get them, even if they come from overseas. Whenever I hear about someone wishing guns were illegal I remember a case a few years back when an old lady took a hatchet and killed her son, daughter in law, and grandkids. They asked why she took a hatchet and hacked them up and she said because she didn't have a gun. It's a pretty nasty reminder, but it really does show things for the way they are in the society we live in.

I wish we could keep people like this from ever getting ahold of anything that could hurt others. But making guns illegal would be about like making vehicles illegal, the few people that screw up shouldn't deny everyone else the privledge.

Now that I've typed all this I'm not sure why I bothered, cause as others have already said, everyone here has pretty much made up thier mind a long time ago. But it is nice to see a group that can agree to disagree, it doesn't happen very often.
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post Oct 5 2006, 06:10 AM
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QUOTE (v7guy @ Oct 5 2006, 01:44 AM) *
Now that I've typed all this I'm not sure why I bothered, cause as others have already said, everyone here has pretty much made up thier mind a long time ago. But it is nice to see a group that can agree to disagree, it doesn't happen very often.


I think we all agree that nobody is going to change their mind on an issue such as this. That's not the point.

You don't have to "change sides" to recognize that the opposition brings up some good points. Increased awareness can only be a good thing no matter which side you are on.
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post Oct 5 2006, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE (sgarnett @ Oct 5 2006, 01:10 AM) *
You don't have to "change sides" to recognize that the opposition brings up some good points. Increased awareness can only be a good thing no matter which side you are on.

Arguing for or against guns is a good way to avoid whatever is at the root of the issue, be it bad parenting, inept criminal justice system, prison overcrowding, mental health care shortfalls, etc
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Eugenio_SS   I hate guns   Sep 15 2006, 12:16 PM
CJ-TA   Although I agree with you about the guns (I really...   Sep 15 2006, 12:58 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (CJ-TA @ Sep 15 2006, 08:58 AM...   Sep 15 2006, 04:18 PM
AllZWay   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Sep 15 2006, 11:18 AM...   Sep 15 2006, 04:26 PM
AllZWay   People that want to kill don't have to have a ...   Sep 15 2006, 01:08 PM
BigEnos   I could think of 5 or 6 things to say to support m...   Sep 15 2006, 01:22 PM
firehawkclone   I'm so glad your wife wasn't harmed in any...   Sep 15 2006, 01:27 PM
bubba353z   Eugenio - glad to hear your wife is OK. Guns are ...   Sep 15 2006, 04:22 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (bubba353z @ Sep 15 2006, 12:22 PM)...   Sep 15 2006, 08:22 PM
slowTA   It is frightening to be near or affected by an eve...   Sep 15 2006, 07:47 PM
v7guy   it's really unfortunate, but as long as human ...   Sep 15 2006, 07:49 PM
jensend   While I don't own any guns, I have to say that...   Sep 15 2006, 08:06 PM
Eugenio_SS   btw, i really appreciate the good words on behalf ...   Sep 15 2006, 09:18 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Sep 15 2006, 05:18 PM...   Sep 16 2006, 05:39 PM
robz71lm7   They'd do it with pipe bombs, knives (there ar...   Sep 16 2006, 03:12 AM
sgarnett   A friend's nephew was the victim of a whacko w...   Sep 16 2006, 12:18 PM
marka   Howdy, My primary issue with non-hunting weapons ...   Sep 16 2006, 04:28 PM
Shortcutsleeping   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 16 2006, 11:28 AM) And...   Sep 16 2006, 05:21 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Sep 16 2006, 01...   Sep 16 2006, 06:10 PM
BigEnos   QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Sep 16 2006, 11...   Sep 16 2006, 08:50 PM
Shortcutsleeping   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Sep 16 2006, 03:50 PM) I...   Sep 18 2006, 07:16 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Sep 16 2006, 04:50 PM) Q...   Sep 18 2006, 07:29 PM
trackbird   My personal views not withstanding, I agree that t...   Sep 16 2006, 10:56 PM
Eugenio_SS   i guess i presented my frustration in a bad way......   Sep 16 2006, 11:20 PM
robz71lm7   QUOTE i guess i presented my frustration in a bad ...   Sep 17 2006, 02:53 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Sep 16 2006, 08...   Sep 17 2006, 11:37 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 17 2006, 07:37 PM) Ove...   Sep 18 2006, 12:25 AM
Mericet   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 17 2006, 08:25 PM)...   Sep 18 2006, 02:09 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (Mericet @ Sep 17 2006, 08...   Sep 18 2006, 02:27 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 17 2006, 10:27 PM) How...   Sep 18 2006, 02:54 AM
rpoz-29   Please define a "now banned gun". It...   Sep 18 2006, 01:05 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ Sep 17 2006, 07...   Sep 18 2006, 01:56 AM
Jon A   Mark, without even touching the deeper more fundam...   Sep 18 2006, 07:21 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (Jon A @ Sep 18 2006, 01:21...   Sep 18 2006, 01:43 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 18 2006, 09:43 AM) Or ...   Sep 18 2006, 01:54 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 18 2006, 07...   Sep 18 2006, 02:34 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 18 2006, 10:34 AM) How...   Sep 18 2006, 02:56 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 18 2006, 10...   Oct 1 2006, 02:20 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 30 2006, 10:20 PM) And...   Oct 1 2006, 02:48 AM
rpoz-29   My postscrip is not "machismo". It is fa...   Sep 18 2006, 01:35 PM
sgarnett   While I don't agree with the NRA stance on eve...   Sep 18 2006, 02:43 PM
BigEnos   RE: I hate guns   Sep 18 2006, 03:06 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Sep 18 2006, 11:06 AM) ...   Sep 18 2006, 03:15 PM
sgarnett   At one time, I was carrying a seven shot .45 becau...   Sep 18 2006, 03:20 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Sep 18 2006, 11:20 AM) ...   Sep 18 2006, 03:26 PM
2000Z-71   A firearm is an inanimate object, a tool, nothing ...   Sep 30 2006, 07:12 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (2000Z-71 @ Sep 30 2006, 0...   Oct 1 2006, 02:10 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (marka @ Sep 30 2006, 10:10 PM) And...   Oct 1 2006, 02:29 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (sgarnett @ Sep 30 2006, 10...   Oct 1 2006, 02:32 AM
2000Z-71   QUOTE Bombs and their important parts are illegal ...   Oct 1 2006, 04:08 AM
trackbird   Well, so much for my hopes that this would sink in...   Oct 1 2006, 02:14 AM
trackbird   Mark, I wasn't just picking on your post. It w...   Oct 1 2006, 02:48 AM
trackbird   And, again I'll state that it doesn't appe...   Oct 1 2006, 04:11 PM
Eugenio_SS   when the thread was started... i was just pissed @...   Oct 1 2006, 05:29 PM
Shortcutsleeping   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Oct 1 2006, 12:29 PM)...   Oct 1 2006, 06:41 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Oct 1 2006, 01:29 PM)...   Oct 1 2006, 07:12 PM
Mericet   QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 1 2006, 03:12 PM) ...   Oct 5 2006, 03:20 AM
Eugenio_SS   EugeniOwned by english language. worse, I know pra...   Oct 1 2006, 07:06 PM
bsim   My $0.02 - I'll *think* about banning gun...   Oct 5 2006, 02:29 AM
v7guy   this whole thread has been interesting, been readi...   Oct 5 2006, 05:44 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (v7guy @ Oct 5 2006, 01:44 AM) Now ...   Oct 5 2006, 06:10 AM
Absolut Speed   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Oct 5 2006, 01:10 AM) Y...   Oct 5 2006, 06:46 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (Absolut Speed @ Oct 5 2006, 02...   Oct 5 2006, 02:48 PM
robz71lm7   I think we've had equal time here for both sid...   Oct 5 2006, 03:02 PM

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