[Crazy Canuck]

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and especially this model: http://www.cx4storm.com/

for those that wounder why:
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/features...ting/index.html

my wife works 1 street corner away, and sometimes goes for lunch there... that day, she didn't... Thank God !

[v7guy]

this whole thread has been interesting, been reading it since the begining. I love guns and get a huge kick out of the sport aspect (shooting targets). I usually shoot until I can't anymore (black and blue shoulder). I'm typically a pacifist though, to the point I don't eat any form of meat or use any products with animals in it if I can avoid it. I'll spend more money and time to get something that doesn't use animal products if it's available. With that said........I'm not so naive to think that a gun isn't valuable, if someone was trying to rob me I would have no problem shooting them, if an animal was coming after me I would have no problem shooting it. There is a practical application and I'm very aware that I may have to use my weapons someday. I have no problem with that, it's an unfortunate fact of life (if I want to live). Typically the only people we see that has problems with the gun laws are the ones that are trying to obey them. I have to be honest and say that I would have alot easier time defending myself with a handgun than I would my rifle or shotgun, just from a maneuverability standpoint.
Personally, I don't have a problem with something like a 3 round capacity, my 870 supermag I've limited to three rounds even though it will accept 7. But as mentioned, you just reload more, it doesn't take much of any time.

I guess I'm just missing the point of why someone would have a problem with guns. It's been shown over and over that the only people that are impacted by gun laws are the honest guys, the other guys are still going to get them, even if they come from overseas. Whenever I hear about someone wishing guns were illegal I remember a case a few years back when an old lady took a hatchet and killed her son, daughter in law, and grandkids. They asked why she took a hatchet and hacked them up and she said because she didn't have a gun. It's a pretty nasty reminder, but it really does show things for the way they are in the society we live in.

I wish we could keep people like this from ever getting ahold of anything that could hurt others. But making guns illegal would be about like making vehicles illegal, the few people that screw up shouldn't deny everyone else the privledge.

Now that I've typed all this I'm not sure why I bothered, cause as others have already said, everyone here has pretty much made up thier mind a long time ago. But it is nice to see a group that can agree to disagree, it doesn't happen very often.

[sgarnett]

Now that I've typed all this I'm not sure why I bothered, cause as others have already said, everyone here has pretty much made up thier mind a long time ago. But it is nice to see a group that can agree to disagree, it doesn't happen very often.

I think we all agree that nobody is going to change their mind on an issue such as this. That's not the point.

You don't have to "change sides" to recognize that the opposition brings up some good points. Increased awareness can only be a good thing no matter which side you are on.

[Absolut Speed]

You don't have to "change sides" to recognize that the opposition brings up some good points. Increased awareness can only be a good thing no matter which side you are on.

Arguing for or against guns is a good way to avoid whatever is at the root of the issue, be it bad parenting, inept criminal justice system, prison overcrowding, mental health care shortfalls, etc

[marka]

Howdy,

You don't have to "change sides" to recognize that the opposition brings up some good points. Increased awareness can only be a good thing no matter which side you are on.

Arguing for or against guns is a good way to avoid whatever is at the root of the issue, be it bad parenting, inept criminal justice system, prison overcrowding, mental health care shortfalls, etc

I think you'll probably find that we all mostly agree with the root of the issue. The place we might differ is whether or not the root of the issue can possibly be addressed.

Mark
(who would rather defend himself against an axe than a Glock)