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BigEnos
post Jan 27 2007, 02:34 PM
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Admission $8
Overpriced bottled water $2.50
Metro and parking fee $9

Getting to see the Camaro concept in person (finally).

PRICELESS! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

Man, I love it in the pictures, but in person it's even better. I know there's lots of haters here so that's all I'm gonna say.

Other show high/lowlights:

New Tundra: Definitely a half ton. An improvement but I don't see the big deal especially in the looks dept. Had some thoughtful features (storage bins here and there, nice adjustable tie-downs) though. They had a rolling chassis there so you could see a lot of the features. Has a 2 piece driveshaft which is a good idea for NVH, but 2X as many u-joints to fail. Rear is 1/2 ton size, front brake rotors are huge diameter but the swept area isn't that much. Rear calipers are *tiny*. Trans was physically small looking for a 6-speed. Dash looked unattractive and the gauge pods that stuck out were cheap feeling. Overall an improvement, but I can't see it being a world beater.

New Silverado: I loved the looks up close, interior very classy and attractive. Some materials looked so-so, but an improvement over my truck. Time will tell how it holds up. Dash/gauges/wheel was a great thing to be behind. Seat leather was very nice. Back seat good, not great room-wise. Fold up was nice and easy and it's a split fold. No built-in bed tie down system Only a bulky bolt-on unit that I wouldn't want. Absolutely should be built-in as well as a Titan-style bed-box. No excuse for not having that. No HDs at either Chevy or GMC. Overall no contest, though, I'd pick it out of all the full-size trucks.

New Ford SD: A face only a mother could love. Just looks weird with big lights on the bottom. I dunno, just out of proportion or something. Size vents are strange, but OK I guess. Built in step/handle on the tailgate is *genius*, bravo Ford. They had an F450 there right next to an F350. Was a King Ranch model and looked to be a much more sane choice compared to the C4500 caricature of a pickup by Chevy. F450 had *huge* components underneath, but probably didn't sit higher than the F350. Hard to tell the difference at first glance. 10-lug low-pro semi wheels/regroovable tires gave it away. Would love to tell you about the interior, but all SDs were *locked*. Huh??

GT500: locked, Why? Lame.

Z06: Open and great! CF trim, fantastic seats, everything right where you want it. Good job Chevy.

Saturn Sky: Looks and feels like it should cost much more. Lots of aluminum up front and the redline turbo setup was sweet. Great seats/wheel/dash.

GM and D-C gets a big thumbs-up for making great use of the show area with quite a few concepts and grouping all brands together, but having good enough separation between them. They did a much better job than Ford.
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post Jan 28 2007, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jan 27 2007, 09:34 AM) *
Has a 2 piece driveshaft which is a good idea for NVH, but 2X as many u-joints to fail.

Out of curiosity, how do you know about driveshaft NVH? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 29 2007, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Jan 28 2007, 06:55 PM) *
QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jan 27 2007, 09:34 AM) *

Has a 2 piece driveshaft which is a good idea for NVH, but 2X as many u-joints to fail.

Out of curiosity, how do you know about driveshaft NVH? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Uh, I guess this is a serious question. My truck has a DS harmonic when it's unloaded at a certain speed on the highway. I'm *assuming* it's a DS harmonic.

My 4th gen. never had much of a problem, but I took it in and had it replaced with the aluminum TSB unit under warranty anyway (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif)
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post Feb 2 2007, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jan 29 2007, 08:20 AM) *
Uh, I guess this is a serious question. My truck has a DS harmonic when it's unloaded at a certain speed on the highway. I'm *assuming* it's a DS harmonic.
Somewhere between 70 - 75 mph?

Me too... I guess it's not just my truck / tires / whatever.



I can't help but think of that Oshawa Silverado plant tour vid I found online somewhere (downloaded - saved). It shows every step of vehicle assembly including the guy swinging / dropping the driveshaft into place. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (frame and axle are flipped upside down at this point)
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post Feb 2 2007, 04:21 AM
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QUOTE (Racer X @ Feb 1 2007, 07:14 PM) *
QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jan 29 2007, 08:20 AM) *
Uh, I guess this is a serious question. My truck has a DS harmonic when it's unloaded at a certain speed on the highway. I'm *assuming* it's a DS harmonic.
Somewhere between 70 - 75 mph?

Me too... I guess it's not just my truck / tires / whatever.



I can't help but think of that Oshawa Silverado plant tour vid I found online somewhere (downloaded - saved). It shows every step of vehicle assembly including the guy swinging / dropping the driveshaft into place. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (frame and axle are flipped upside down at this point)


Mine is from @68-72mph. Close enough! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/bs.gif)
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post Feb 2 2007, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (BigEnos @ Feb 1 2007, 11:21 PM) *
QUOTE (Racer X @ Feb 1 2007, 07:14 PM) *

QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jan 29 2007, 08:20 AM) *
Uh, I guess this is a serious question. My truck has a DS harmonic when it's unloaded at a certain speed on the highway. I'm *assuming* it's a DS harmonic.
Somewhere between 70 - 75 mph?

Me too... I guess it's not just my truck / tires / whatever.



I can't help but think of that Oshawa Silverado plant tour vid I found online somewhere (downloaded - saved). It shows every step of vehicle assembly including the guy swinging / dropping the driveshaft into place. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (frame and axle are flipped upside down at this point)


Mine is from @68-72mph. Close enough! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/bs.gif)

What year, model, wheel base, engine, 4x4 or 4x2 do you guys have?
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BigEnos   Auto show recap.   Jan 27 2007, 02:34 PM
poSSum   We enjoyed the show and the weekend as well. We we...   Jan 27 2007, 03:50 PM
pknowles   I'm a convert for the new Camaro. When I firs...   Jan 28 2007, 02:31 PM
StanIROCZ   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jan 27 2007, 09:34 AM) H...   Jan 28 2007, 11:55 PM
BigEnos   QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Jan 28 2007, 06:55 PM)...   Jan 29 2007, 02:20 PM
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