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> 5th generation Camaro, well, maybe
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post Jun 9 2004, 05:39 PM
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Would you buy this Camaro???

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/...Fifth_Reloaded/

I'd snatch it up in a heartbeat. GM needs to hire this guy pronto...
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post Jun 9 2004, 05:59 PM
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That's the one that I was talking about earlier. Like you, I'd give several non-vital body parts for that orange one.
(IMG:http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0312phr_fifthgen_04_s.jpg)
Put an LS2 or LS6 with 400+hp in it, give it at least the option to have an independant rear suspension (even as aftermarket), and I'd pay $40k or so for it.
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post Jun 9 2004, 06:12 PM
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That is too COOL to ever be built, GMs bean counters will kill it! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Jun 9 2004, 06:49 PM
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(IMG:http://www.crystalridge.net/3rdgen1.jpg)
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post Jun 9 2004, 07:54 PM
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Best part about that car is the rear. It's beautiful!! And that's really good, because with the right engine in that thing, that's the only view that people are ever going to see! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 9 2004, 08:24 PM
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I ussually don't like the retro design, but that one is hot.
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post Jun 9 2004, 08:28 PM
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Let's start a new car company and build this thing!!! I think collectively, we know better than GM!!
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post Jun 9 2004, 08:46 PM
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Let's start a new car company and build this thing!!! I think collectively, we know better than GM!!


And we can name it camaro since Camaro is probably trademarked and a lot of people spell it that way. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jun 9 2004, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (pknowles @ Jun 9 2004, 03:46 PM)
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Let's start a new car company and build this thing!!! I think collectively, we know better than GM!!


And we can name it camaro since Camaro is probably trademarked and a lot of people spell it that way. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

LMAO!!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The problem is, almost everytime an enthusiast (car guy?) builds a car he winds up bankrupt. Now, Bob Lutz is a car guy and on his watch we did get the Viper (and we'll let the Prowler slide.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ). But, as a rule, car guys build cars for car guys. And there are just not enough car guys to keep themselves in business, or so it seems. As someone said earlier, we want "bling-free" road missiles that have enough grip to remove the paint stripes from the road in a corner even if it knocks out a few teeth in the process.

I'd buy one....

Phil, maybe we could call it "Cameo" as in a "cameo appearance" (though few would actually get it and even less may consider it funny (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ).
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post Jun 9 2004, 10:26 PM
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I've refrained from posting, but I couldn't stop myself.

I'm sorry, but after years of disappointment I refuse to believe that GM will do anything that will please me.
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post Jun 9 2004, 11:21 PM
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A lot of great ideas, but the problem is, GM knows most Camaro guys will also buy a Corvette if forced to . . . (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 10 2004, 12:47 AM
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Jack it up on smaller rims and tires, throw on some cheap GM parts and huge rearviews... I'm not sure that it would translate well to production. I could be wrong. Its not very aero either.

Other than that, it looks great. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 10 2004, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE (bruecksteve @ Jun 9 2004, 11:39 AM)
Would you buy this Camaro???

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/...Fifth_Reloaded/

I'd snatch it up in a heartbeat. GM needs to hire this guy pronto...

No doubt Steve,I would buy one in a heartbeat The yellow or orange.The green one is great too but the other design makes my pants tight (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) If that car was devoloped there would be a resurgence(sp?) of the older Camaro buyers and the 4th geners too... shoot die hard ford guys would dream secretly about it and run when they see it (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . There would be old dudes driven these suckas again without a doubt.
I did post those pics on pg.1&2 but I cant make my pics last more than 15 secs for some reason. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
I WANT THAT DARN CAR,I cant believe they have not seen that it is a work of new gen art. Friggin honda drivin beancounters.
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post Jun 10 2004, 02:34 AM
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QUOTE (bruecksteve @ Jun 9 2004, 11:39 AM)
Would you buy this Camaro???

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/...Fifth_Reloaded/

I'd snatch it up in a heartbeat. GM needs to hire this guy pronto...

NOW THAT CAR IS BADASS.....I would be FIRST IN LINE at the dealer to order one!!!

...alas, like others....I fear GM will F it up royally and come out with something that inspires NO ONE.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jun 10 2004, 03:01 AM
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I'll hope that GM does bring back the Camaro and do a decent job of it, but I'm not getting my hopes up. By doing a decent job I mean respectable performance at an affordable price. Look at their current performance offerings:

Corvette - over 40K
CTS-V - over 50K
Silverado SS - over 40K and a Lightning will have it for lunch
SSR - over 40K for an S-10 with a V8 and a body kit and a Honda Accord V6 will have it for lunch
GTO - impressive performance at a reasonable price, hard to find 6-speeds and unbelievable dealer mark-up

What gets me is that GM has the parts bin to build some affordable performance cars and they don't. The GTO does give me hope and maybe more will follow off the Holden platform. But why not offer a "stripper" Corvette? Why not put the 8.1 in a 1/2 ton Silverado 2wd reminiscent of the 454SS? Why not put a V8 in the Colorado with a performance suspension and AWD like the Syclone? I'm just afraid if GM brings it back it will be a halo specialty vehicle, limited volume and a high price.
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post Jun 10 2004, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jun 9 2004, 09:34 PM)
...alas, like others....I fear GM will F it up royally and come out with something that inspires NO ONE.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

They did just build the SSR, so it appears that they are very capable of inspiring no one??? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I'd have traded that overpriced POS for a new Camaro any day....
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post Jun 10 2004, 03:16 AM
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Unfortunately, I gotta agree. GM seems to have no real desire to make themselves stand out. They're perfectly happy to try to play catch-up and keep-up with what everyone else is doing, instead of starting something themselves. I saw my first GTO on the road today - it was bright yellow . . . and blended into the background perfectly. OK, some may like the "sleeper" look, but who wants and entire corporate line-up of sleepers? Personally, I rather like having an obvious car that turns heads.
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post Jun 10 2004, 03:25 AM
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that car is a pipe dream.. if they offered it for around 20k then i would buy one


i want realism

Camaros are basic and that is what i want
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post Jun 11 2004, 12:16 PM
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I think there's hope in that GM has brought out the GTO and will soon offer the Solstice roadster as well. The problem is, for guys like us that want a bare-bones performance car, the GTO is too heavy and too expensive and the Solstice doesn't have enough power. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Jun 11 2004, 12:59 PM
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What gets me is that GM has the parts bin to build some affordable performance cars and they don't.


I couldn't agree more with that statment. GM has totally left the door open for the afordable performance car. I see a good number of WRX's on the road and considering the performance they are putting out for under $30k it makes me think why doesn't GM compete with the WRX. The Solstice looks like a large Miata, if they can keep the weight down it might be a hit. I would look at one if the 170 hp came with no more then 2500-2600 lbs and I could get some negitive camber on it.
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