 Just got home from Beaver Run, It's always a $3.00 part..... |
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 Aug 7 2005, 04:25 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin  Group: Admin Posts: 15,437 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196  |
I just returned home (last night) from Beaver Run and the AV8SS race. I drug Pimpmaro off to crew (once he was there, he was stuck....forced labor (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/whip.gif) ) for the AV8SS team for which I usually handle crew chief duties. We arrived about 10:30 pm or so to a nice evening (great weather) and relaxed with Brion and his son Julian. Hung out, watched a movie on his laptop in the trailer and made plans for a great weekend of racing.
I learned that trying to sleep in the trailer at Beaver Run (with the door open) is just asking to become mosquito bait. So, after a few hours of not sleeping, I went and slept in my car from 4:30 to 6:30 am. So, we started the day with little sleep and none of it good..... Oh well, that's how it goes sometimes. We won't let that slow us down. We sent the driver/car owner out to learn the track on the first practice session (brand new motor, slightly over 500 RWHP). Things were looking good, running easy laps. However, during that first practice session, the water neck cracked while out on course (a traingle shaped piece broke out of it), this allowed the top radiator hose to blow off. By the time it came into the pits, it wasn't dripping any water (it was all gone) and the temp gauge was reading "steam" and showing about 180 or so. Therefore, we sent the driver back out (unaware of the water problem) and ran 3 more laps with no water. So, when it came in, it was hot, damn hot. We fixed (replaced with a borrowed one) the water neck and it wouldn't hold pressure with a radiator pressure tester and was leaking water down the back of the block (from the intake...this is a small block ford). I tightened the intake bolts and it would hold pressure but wouldn't crank. We were also trying to replace a rear oil galley plug (screw in) that was originally an oil pressure tap for a gauge that was leaking. This took 3 of us and several tries with many plugs. I finally got the original one (which leaked slightly) back in the hole just in time for the next session. This wasn't helped by the fact that the valve covers (after sitting for an hour and a half, most of that with a fan blowing on them that was laying across from the cowl to the air cleaner) were still too hot to touch. We tried to crank it, no luck. But, the starter was giving us problems in the pits as well during the last session. Maybe the starters bad. So, we tried to push start it....no luck. We pulled the plugs and I turned it by hand and 4 cylinders were full of water from a pair of blown head gaskets (and 3/4 of the way through that rotation, it started to bind up and get hard to turn). I then remembered that the driver said it had no oil pressure at idle when he got to the pits. I was hoping that he meant that the oil was hot and it was just lot, but now I'm afraid it was truly 0 and we may have big problems (probably an understatement I know). So, back to the engine builder it goes. I should know something in a few weeks (once they tear it down). Racing can be so frustrating some days.....(it still beats a good day at work). :drive: As a side note, I think Pimpmaros conversion from drag racer to autocrosser/road racing fan is complete. Now he wants a track car......(I've created a monster.....(IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) ) |
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Aug 8 2005, 07:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,226 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Danville, CA, USA Member No.: 27 |
I wasn't trying to break your balls or anything...just making a funny...
...it's not like I can talk too much....with my gas/fire situation was ALMOST identical to what you describe.....down to the radios not working right.... ...sometimes....racing "luck" will bite ya!.... Good luck fixing her up! ps....miltary expertise or not....can't vouch for his judgement TOO much....he is racing a F.O.R.D.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) |
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Aug 8 2005, 08:01 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,437 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Aug 8 2005, 14:50) I wasn't trying to break your balls or anything...just making a funny... ...it's not like I can talk too much....with my gas/fire situation was ALMOST identical to what you describe.....down to the radios not working right.... I know. I just figure that someone can/will learn from this and maybe it won't be completely wasted. |
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Aug 9 2005, 09:51 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,647 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Pittsburgh, PA Member No.: 14 |
Question for anyone who ran Beaver Run this weekend -
Are you lifting on the entrance to turn 9? Turn 9 is the right-hand kink before the braking zone into 10 (the tight, uphill right-hander) on the back straight. This turn is a constant controversy locally and I personally believe that very few high-hp cars can take it flat-out. I personally think that my car could go through there flat-out but then I wouldn't have the car straight enough for hard braking into 10 and I would go straight off the track. I have seen enough people taken out of there in an ambulance that I don't have the balls to try. |
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Aug 9 2005, 12:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 919 Joined: 30-December 03 From: Northern NY Member No.: 66 |
Keith I wasnt there this weekend but my instructor would do it in 5th (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif) . When I was there a yr ago now. I wasnt carrying enough speed to match his speed but it was plenty fast for me (130ish..) But I know what you mean about braking and being able to be stopped!!!!! Later John
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Aug 9 2005, 12:22 PM
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ERV Group: Advanced Members Posts: 332 Joined: 22-January 04 Member No.: 143 |
I was never able to hold flat to the kink...but I could. I always had to back off because of the cars in front did and there is no good way to set them up for out braking there is only one line through the kink.
I would lift just to avoid contact go back to the gas and then jam the brakes on at the one hundred marker using some early turn-in and the up hill to help stop the car. I know it sounds funny but at the begining of the race I was able to outbrake the wilson/tone car from 4 car lengths back into the turn. You can certainly go flat out through the kink if no other cars are around to worry about running into the back of. Not sure about my speed (too busy trying to stop) but I am full throttle from before the downhill apex at 7 all the way to turn in at 9 (right kink). This post has been edited by ERVRCG: Aug 9 2005, 12:26 PM |
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Aug 9 2005, 12:44 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,437 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (ERVRCG @ Aug 9 2005, 07:22) I was never able to hold flat to the kink...but I could. I always had to back off because of the cars in front did and there is no good way to set them up for out braking there is only one line through the kink. I would lift just to avoid contact go back to the gas and then jam the brakes on at the one hundred marker using some early turn-in and the up hill to help stop the car. I know it sounds funny but at the begining of the race I was able to outbrake the wilson/tone car from 4 car lengths back into the turn. You can certainly go flat out through the kink if no other cars are around to worry about running into the back of. Not sure about my speed (too busy trying to stop) but I am full throttle from before the downhill apex at 7 all the way to turn in at 9 (right kink). Were you there this weekend in the SOM Camaro? I was meaning to come by and say hello to those guys (or you guys if that was the case). |
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Aug 9 2005, 01:06 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,042 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Hanover, PA Member No.: 36 |
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My car was able to handle it flat out on more than one occassion. The race lasted around 42 laps and 55 minutes. It does get real busy when approaching the brake zone. Later in the race I'd have to worry about the change in weight balance after burning off so much fuel. I think I was able to gain a mph or two at that point. Really gets your attention when braking 100%. Steve This post has been edited by steve-d: Aug 9 2005, 03:27 PM |
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Aug 9 2005, 04:23 PM
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Need More Afterburner Group: Moderators Posts: 809 Joined: 13-March 05 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 683 |
QUOTE (trackbird @ Aug 9 2005, 08:44) QUOTE (ERVRCG @ Aug 9 2005, 07:22) I was never able to hold flat to the kink...but I could. I always had to back off because of the cars in front did and there is no good way to set them up for out braking there is only one line through the kink. I would lift just to avoid contact go back to the gas and then jam the brakes on at the one hundred marker using some early turn-in and the up hill to help stop the car. I know it sounds funny but at the begining of the race I was able to outbrake the wilson/tone car from 4 car lengths back into the turn. You can certainly go flat out through the kink if no other cars are around to worry about running into the back of. Not sure about my speed (too busy trying to stop) but I am full throttle from before the downhill apex at 7 all the way to turn in at 9 (right kink). Were you there this weekend in the SOM Camaro? I was meaning to come by and say hello to those guys (or you guys if that was the case). Same for me. I was wondering who that was... |
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Aug 9 2005, 07:46 PM
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ERV Group: Advanced Members Posts: 332 Joined: 22-January 04 Member No.: 143 |
It was me / us. We exchanged some small pleasentries while you were working on the mustang and I was talking to Mr Gluck. No formal introductions. I hate interupting during those times of frustration.
I did check out Steve's car and love the paint job. We'll be at Nashville...everyone should come and bring there cars. Can't beat the track time for the money. ERV |
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Aug 9 2005, 07:58 PM
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Need More Afterburner Group: Moderators Posts: 809 Joined: 13-March 05 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 683 |
Nashville is starting to look more and more iffy for me. G/F coming in town from West Point... the new job... HOWEVER, if I can convince her that she wants to go racing for the weekend and I still have weekends off on my job, I might scramble down there. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Aug 9 2005, 08:07 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,437 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (ERVRCG @ Aug 9 2005, 14:46) It was me / us. We exchanged some small pleasentries while you were working on the mustang and I was talking to Mr Gluck. No formal introductions. I hate interupting during those times of frustration. I did check out Steve's car and love the paint job. We'll be at Nashville...everyone should come and bring there cars. Can't beat the track time for the money. ERV Ahh, you should have at least said hello (I'm on FRRAX (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ). Well, I guess we sorta met. It was a bit of a thrash to find out that it really was broken, at least for that day. Were you the group of about 3 guys that were looking at my brakes (I was talking to you/them over the banner on the "tent")? (or was that another bunch) |
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Aug 10 2005, 02:32 AM
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ERV Group: Advanced Members Posts: 332 Joined: 22-January 04 Member No.: 143 |
QUOTE (trackbird @ Aug 9 2005, 14:07) QUOTE (ERVRCG @ Aug 9 2005, 14:46) It was me / us. We exchanged some small pleasentries while you were working on the mustang and I was talking to Mr Gluck. No formal introductions. I hate interupting during those times of frustration. I did check out Steve's car and love the paint job. We'll be at Nashville...everyone should come and bring there cars. Can't beat the track time for the money. ERV Ahh, you should have at least said hello (I'm on FRRAX (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ). Well, I guess we sorta met. It was a bit of a thrash to find out that it really was broken, at least for that day. Were you the group of about 3 guys that were looking at my brakes (I was talking to you/them over the banner on the "tent")? (or was that another bunch) Nope, just me looking around the mustang. Pimpmaro: Tell her that you are going to take her to Nashville, which is a nice town to party / club / hang in. Then tell her that your going down to Lynchburgh to tour the Jack Daniels distillery. We'll that's what we are doing.... This post has been edited by ERVRCG: Aug 10 2005, 02:40 AM |
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Aug 10 2005, 05:37 AM
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Need More Afterburner Group: Moderators Posts: 809 Joined: 13-March 05 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 683 |
Lol... unfortunately she's still just shy of the drinking age... hell I'm just barely over it myself. OH crap... that reminds me... I left my Jim Beam at Trackbird's house... damnit!
Well, I'm from down in Huntsville, AL... just under 2 hrs from Nashville so it's familiar territory to me. That and she's understanding of my octane addiction so hopefully I can be convincing and sweet... or something like that. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Aug 10 2005, 12:16 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,437 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (pimpmaro @ Aug 10 2005, 00:37) OH crap... that reminds me... I left my Jim Beam at Trackbird's house... damnit! You better hurry..... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/drink.gif) |
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Aug 10 2005, 07:14 PM
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ERV Group: Advanced Members Posts: 332 Joined: 22-January 04 Member No.: 143 |
QUOTE (pimpmaro @ Aug 9 2005, 23:37) Lol... unfortunately she's still just shy of the drinking age... hell I'm just barely over it myself. OH crap... that reminds me... I left my Jim Beam at Trackbird's house... damnit! Well, I'm from down in Huntsville, AL... just under 2 hrs from Nashville so it's familiar territory to me. That and she's understanding of my octane addiction so hopefully I can be convincing and sweet... or something like that. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Duh!!! It's a dry county...and the distillery serves lemonaide at the end of the tour. |
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Aug 10 2005, 07:37 PM
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Need More Afterburner Group: Moderators Posts: 809 Joined: 13-March 05 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 683 |
OH YEAH!!!!! I forgot all about that! Hrmmm... time for some schmoozing...
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