|  Actual Concept Photo & Vid, Real thing leaked, spoiler | 
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|  Actual Concept Photo & Vid, Real thing leaked, spoiler | 
|  Jan 7 2006, 07:09 PM 
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| Advanced Member   Group: Advanced Members Posts: 588 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Sterling, IL Member No.: 7  | 
				Don't click if you want to see the actual unveiling Monday http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?se...article_id=3124 Be sure to watch the video to see the 360 view. | 
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|  Jan 7 2006, 07:30 PM 
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| Veteran Member      Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,640 Joined: 25-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 40  | 
				I think the concept shows a lot of promise.  I think they could work some on the front end grille and the rear tail lights. I'm not a big retro fan to be honest. | 
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|  Jan 7 2006, 08:18 PM 
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| Experienced Member    Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,290 Joined: 4-May 04 From: Kenvil, NJ Member No.: 331  | 
				Ehh, I guess I would buy one but I'm sure they'll make some changes to make it look a little better.  I looks like rear visibilty will be pretty limited.  Independant rear?  Didn't hear all of the audio.   'Reasonably compact', but what does it weigh? | 
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|  Jan 7 2006, 09:03 PM 
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| Member  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 42 Joined: 17-October 05 Member No.: 933  | 
				Yup, independant rear!! The cad pictures of the underside were out a while ago and showed independant rear. | 
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|  Jan 7 2006, 09:09 PM 
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| Veteran Member      Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,647 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Pittsburgh, PA Member No.: 14  | 
				Needs to be less than $25k for a stripper Z28 and weigh less than 3350lbs or I won't even consider it.
				
				
				
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|  Jan 7 2006, 09:21 PM 
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| Chapter 11 Racing    Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,166 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Houston, Republic of Texas Member No.: 207  | 
				It grew on me during the video, at first glance the point of the nose was too much, I still think it would look better more flat. Also, would be nice if they put in the old fashioned hideaway headlight grille covers to hide the headlights during the day. I agree with Keith that it needs to weigh less than 3350-3400 lbs and have a target price of $25 or less. Not sure the big diameter wheels are smart. One could only hope they put a decent posi in it.
				
				
				
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|  Jan 7 2006, 09:42 PM 
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| Veteran Member      Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,640 Joined: 25-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 40  | 
				So is it a struts up front?   As for IRS I hope it isn't an "abortion" IRS. | 
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|  Jan 7 2006, 10:44 PM 
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| Advanced Member   Group: Advanced Members Posts: 697 Joined: 25-December 03 From: Athens, GA Member No.: 45  | 
				where's the firebird?
				
				
				
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|  Jan 7 2006, 11:31 PM 
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| Advanced Member   Group: Advanced Members Posts: 404 Joined: 12-January 04 From: From PA, now AR Member No.: 120  | QUOTE  So is it a struts up front?Yes. QUOTE  where's the firebirdScuttlebut says it's not gonna happen. No more near identical cars from the same company competing in the same marketplace, so they say. | 
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|  Jan 8 2006, 12:07 AM 
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| Advanced Member   Group: Advanced Members Posts: 588 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Sterling, IL Member No.: 7  | QUOTE (Racer X @ Jan 7 2006, 17:31) No more near identical cars from the same company competing in the same marketplace, so they say. So GMC is finally going to get the ax? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I know that's what they say, but the entire GMC line is probably the least differentiated line out there. Sam goes for the new GM minivan lineup. But I guess in some cases, they are holding true to that, like there'no no sunfire replacement... unless of course you go to Canada where Pontiac has a Cobalt equivalent. I have to stop trying to figure GM out. | 
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|  Jan 8 2006, 12:12 AM 
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| Chapter 11 Racing    Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,166 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Houston, Republic of Texas Member No.: 207  | QUOTE (Formula WS6 @ Jan 7 2006, 16:44) where's the firebird? video says it's on the GTO platform, GTO = Pontiac | 
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|  Jan 8 2006, 01:46 AM 
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| Member  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 247 Joined: 17-January 05 From: Tallahassee, FL Member No.: 611  | 
				New styles are usually hard for me to digest. When the new mustang came out I REALLY HATED it. After getting used to it a bit I almost like it... naaah scratch that. On the other hand, this concept Camaro is off to a good start. I'm not thrilled with it but I don't hate it in the least. The vid says without looking retro.. lol, I guess so. R&T Video | 
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|  Jan 8 2006, 01:58 AM 
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| Senior Member       Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,226 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Danville, CA, USA Member No.: 27  | QUOTE (Formula WS6 @ Jan 7 2006, 16:44) where's the firebird? ...not gonna happen.....sorry (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) | 
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|  Jan 8 2006, 02:00 AM 
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| Senior Member       Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,226 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Danville, CA, USA Member No.: 27  | QUOTE (Absolut Speed @ Jan 7 2006, 18:07) So GMC is finally going to get the ax?   (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)  ...lets hope not....taking away a DECENT looking truck would take away ANOTHER GM product that I would buy... The list just gets SMALLER and SMALLER | 
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|  Jan 8 2006, 02:57 AM 
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| Experienced Member    Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,936 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Youngstown, OH Member No.: 896  | 
				Howdy, So the Road & Track link doesn't work... Did anyone save the article? Mark | 
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|  Jan 8 2006, 03:03 AM 
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| Race Driver   Group: Advanced Members Posts: 382 Joined: 14-February 04 From: SoCal Member No.: 205  | QUOTE  So the Road & Track link doesn't work... Did anyone save the article? Link's down, but here's a copy. If clicking doesn't work, 'copy shortcut' and paste into 'open URL' in media player... QUOTE  Needs to be less than $25k for a stripper Z28 and weigh less than 3350lbs or I won't even consider it. Should we start a pool? I call 3500# and $35k... This post has been edited by bsim: Jan 8 2006, 03:06 AM | 
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|  Jan 8 2006, 03:21 AM 
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| Experienced Member    Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,290 Joined: 4-May 04 From: Kenvil, NJ Member No.: 331  | 
				Put me down for 3700 lbs (for some reason it looks heavy) and $32K.
				
				
				
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|  Jan 8 2006, 03:37 AM 
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|  Jan 8 2006, 04:01 AM 
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| Chapter 11 Racing    Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,166 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Houston, Republic of Texas Member No.: 207  | 
				I calll 3800 lbs & $31k sticker
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|  Jan 8 2006, 07:26 AM 
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| Advanced Member   Group: Advanced Members Posts: 340 Joined: 6-February 04 From: Stockton, California Member No.: 181  | 
				Here it is (IMG:http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia/data/500/12162006144750.jpg) | 
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