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Admission $8
Overpriced bottled water $2.50
Metro and parking fee $9

Getting to see the Camaro concept in person (finally).

PRICELESS! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

Man, I love it in the pictures, but in person it's even better. I know there's lots of haters here so that's all I'm gonna say.

Other show high/lowlights:

New Tundra: Definitely a half ton. An improvement but I don't see the big deal especially in the looks dept. Had some thoughtful features (storage bins here and there, nice adjustable tie-downs) though. They had a rolling chassis there so you could see a lot of the features. Has a 2 piece driveshaft which is a good idea for NVH, but 2X as many u-joints to fail. Rear is 1/2 ton size, front brake rotors are huge diameter but the swept area isn't that much. Rear calipers are *tiny*. Trans was physically small looking for a 6-speed. Dash looked unattractive and the gauge pods that stuck out were cheap feeling. Overall an improvement, but I can't see it being a world beater.

New Silverado: I loved the looks up close, interior very classy and attractive. Some materials looked so-so, but an improvement over my truck. Time will tell how it holds up. Dash/gauges/wheel was a great thing to be behind. Seat leather was very nice. Back seat good, not great room-wise. Fold up was nice and easy and it's a split fold. No built-in bed tie down system Only a bulky bolt-on unit that I wouldn't want. Absolutely should be built-in as well as a Titan-style bed-box. No excuse for not having that. No HDs at either Chevy or GMC. Overall no contest, though, I'd pick it out of all the full-size trucks.

New Ford SD: A face only a mother could love. Just looks weird with big lights on the bottom. I dunno, just out of proportion or something. Size vents are strange, but OK I guess. Built in step/handle on the tailgate is *genius*, bravo Ford. They had an F450 there right next to an F350. Was a King Ranch model and looked to be a much more sane choice compared to the C4500 caricature of a pickup by Chevy. F450 had *huge* components underneath, but probably didn't sit higher than the F350. Hard to tell the difference at first glance. 10-lug low-pro semi wheels/regroovable tires gave it away. Would love to tell you about the interior, but all SDs were *locked*. Huh??

GT500: locked, Why? Lame.

Z06: Open and great! CF trim, fantastic seats, everything right where you want it. Good job Chevy.

Saturn Sky: Looks and feels like it should cost much more. Lots of aluminum up front and the redline turbo setup was sweet. Great seats/wheel/dash.

GM and D-C gets a big thumbs-up for making great use of the show area with quite a few concepts and grouping all brands together, but having good enough separation between them. They did a much better job than Ford.

BigEnos View Member Profile	Jan 27 2007, 02:34 PM Post #1
Collo Rosso Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,220 Joined: 3-August 05 From: San Antonio, TX Member No.: 839	Admission $8 Overpriced bottled water $2.50 Metro and parking fee $9 Getting to see the Camaro concept in person (finally). PRICELESS! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) Man, I love it in the pictures, but in person it's even better. I know there's lots of haters here so that's all I'm gonna say. Other show high/lowlights: New Tundra: Definitely a half ton. An improvement but I don't see the big deal especially in the looks dept. Had some thoughtful features (storage bins here and there, nice adjustable tie-downs) though. They had a rolling chassis there so you could see a lot of the features. Has a 2 piece driveshaft which is a good idea for NVH, but 2X as many u-joints to fail. Rear is 1/2 ton size, front brake rotors are huge diameter but the swept area isn't that much. Rear calipers are tiny. Trans was physically small looking for a 6-speed. Dash looked unattractive and the gauge pods that stuck out were cheap feeling. Overall an improvement, but I can't see it being a world beater. New Silverado: I loved the looks up close, interior very classy and attractive. Some materials looked so-so, but an improvement over my truck. Time will tell how it holds up. Dash/gauges/wheel was a great thing to be behind. Seat leather was very nice. Back seat good, not great room-wise. Fold up was nice and easy and it's a split fold. No built-in bed tie down system Only a bulky bolt-on unit that I wouldn't want. Absolutely should be built-in as well as a Titan-style bed-box. No excuse for not having that. No HDs at either Chevy or GMC. Overall no contest, though, I'd pick it out of all the full-size trucks. New Ford SD: A face only a mother could love. Just looks weird with big lights on the bottom. I dunno, just out of proportion or something. Size vents are strange, but OK I guess. Built in step/handle on the tailgate is genius, bravo Ford. They had an F450 there right next to an F350. Was a King Ranch model and looked to be a much more sane choice compared to the C4500 caricature of a pickup by Chevy. F450 had huge components underneath, but probably didn't sit higher than the F350. Hard to tell the difference at first glance. 10-lug low-pro semi wheels/regroovable tires gave it away. Would love to tell you about the interior, but all SDs were locked. Huh?? GT500: locked, Why? Lame. Z06: Open and great! CF trim, fantastic seats, everything right where you want it. Good job Chevy. Saturn Sky: Looks and feels like it should cost much more. Lots of aluminum up front and the redline turbo setup was sweet. Great seats/wheel/dash. GM and D-C gets a big thumbs-up for making great use of the show area with quite a few concepts and grouping all brands together, but having good enough separation between them. They did a much better job than Ford.