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> Vehicle Tilter!!!, Very cool but OMG!!
sgarnett
post Aug 10 2004, 02:13 PM
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Checking out one of the new sponsors, I found this:

Vehicle Tilter

Umm, wow! I'd be very nervous the first time I tried it (they do recommend removing the battery). It sure would come in handy, though.
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post Aug 10 2004, 02:41 PM
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I've seen that ad before. I imagine its a site to see to watch it get into that position.
For $1200+ I'd rather just buy a used lift.
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post Aug 10 2004, 02:47 PM
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I've not seen that before. I can see explaining the .5 mph rollover accident to your ins company.....
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post Aug 10 2004, 02:58 PM
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Yeah this one has been making the rounds on several boards. After you take out the battery, jack up the vehicle, take two wheels off, bolt this on, then roll it over, I think it would be less work to just put the car on jackstands. I'll give it an "A" for creativity though! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Aug 10 2004, 04:16 PM
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Finally find all the loose change that has fell out of my pockets...
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post Aug 10 2004, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE (derf'96SS @ Aug 10 2004, 11:16 AM)
Finally find all the loose change that has fell out of my pockets...

And at least a few french fries.....
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post Aug 10 2004, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE (trackbird @ Aug 10 2004, 10:19 AM)
QUOTE (derf'96SS @ Aug 10 2004, 11:16 AM)
Finally find all the loose change that has fell out of my pockets...

And at least a few french fries.....

LOL - WORD
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post Aug 10 2004, 07:56 PM
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YIKES!

I hope to NEVER see my car in that position....

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post Aug 10 2004, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (y5e06 @ Aug 10 2004, 09:41 AM)
I've seen that ad before. I imagine its a site to see to watch it get into that position.
For $1200+ I'd rather just buy a used lift.

If a lift would fit in my garage there would be one already, but there's not enough overhead clearance to bother.

Still, forget the insurance company. I really don't want to explain to my wife how the car ended up on its roof in the garage - I'd never live it down (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 10 2004, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Aug 10 2004, 02:56 PM)
YIKES!

I hope to NEVER see my car in that position....

:leaving:

If you do, it is very likely that it will not look 1/2 as good when it lands on its wheels afterwards. And, I suspect that guardrails are much harder on the paint than that assembly would be.

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post Aug 10 2004, 10:04 PM
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Got travel limiter straps?
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post Aug 11 2004, 12:42 AM
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You'd have to be pretty burly to pull your T56 out sideways... the thing's heavy enough when two guys are lowering it from underneath the car (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 11 2004, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE (trax @ Aug 10 2004, 07:42 PM)
You'd have to be pretty burly to pull your T56 out sideways... the thing's heavy enough when two guys are lowering it from underneath the car (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Heck no! Just slide one of those hydraulic "material handling" carts under it from the side.

However, I wouldn't try disconnecting the PHR, torque arm, or LCAs on that rig, which might make removing the tranny a little tricky. In fact, I wouldn't trust the stock PHR to hold the car up either.
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post Aug 11 2004, 02:50 AM
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QUOTE (sgarnett @ Aug 10 2004, 06:21 PM)
However, I wouldn't try disconnecting the PHR, torque arm, or LCAs on that rig, which might make removing the tranny a little tricky. In fact, I wouldn't trust the stock PHR to hold the car up either.

Good point

It would be good to get that hard to reach dirt and grim with the pressure washer (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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That IS one wild devise. Not sure what to think? There must be a high rise jack of sorts to get up to the point it wants to roll on side. And then,yeah some sort of strps or something to keep it from mad slamming on its side. It must work alright or I could not see it making it to market. Wow those crafty germans (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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post Aug 11 2004, 03:08 AM
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[quote=sgarnett,Aug 10 2004, 06:21 PM] [QUOTE=trax,Aug 10 2004, 07:42 PM]In fact, I wouldn't trust the stock PHR to hold the car up either. [/quote]
Well, it's a simplistic assumption, but if you corner your car at close to 1g, you're already hitting the side loads that rolling the car 90 degrees gives. Simplistic because I'm not counting fore-aft weight transfer during cornering which changes the loads at each end.

You could also roll to put the PHR in tension, as buckling in compression would be the easiest to reach failure mode.

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post Aug 11 2004, 03:51 AM
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[quote=zlexiss,Aug 10 2004, 10:08 PM] [QUOTE=sgarnett,Aug 10 2004, 06:21 PM] [QUOTE=trax,Aug 10 2004, 07:42 PM]In fact, I wouldn't trust the stock PHR to hold the car up either. [/QUOTE]
Well, it's a simplistic assumption, but if you corner your car at close to 1g, you're already hitting the side loads that rolling the car 90 degrees gives. Simplistic because I'm not counting fore-aft weight transfer during cornering which changes the loads at each end. [/quote]
The stock PHR is too flimsy and flexes a lot in hard cornering loads. I don't think it would buckle under the load of turning the car on it's side, but it would probably allow more movement of the axle than I'd be comfortable with.
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post Aug 11 2004, 04:13 PM
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Just talked to a friend about this thing. he is an immigrant from Europe. Says they have been using these things for decades already in Europe. The ones he has used were activated with a screw type jack that was driven with the electric drill. Mostly a tool for doing body work.
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post Aug 12 2004, 05:48 AM
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Sean, I've been looking at some lifts lately that don't require huge clearance. http://www.e-autolifts.com . They have models that lift your car anywhere from 29" to 53". Lifting the car to 29" in 30 seconds would be pretty neat. They're electrically powered too.

The sad part is though, the P6 weighs about 875 lbs.! I wouldn't call that very portable. I had in mind I might get that one next spring and bring it with me to the track once I get an enclosed trailer. My generator would power the lift with no problems. The weight was a deal breaker though.
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post Aug 12 2004, 07:06 PM
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oooooh....LIFTS.....

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damn...need a 12 foot garage ceiling BAD!

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