[ESPCamaro]

So......a long long time ago I spent a bunch of time here. And then I didn’t (long story)

Well I’m pretty much set on the idea I’m going to be autocrossing a 4th gen again.

So what has changed?

Some things I’ve found already:
Tires are drastically more expensive
Available “good” r compound options are even more limited
Street prepared has some allowances I would have liked to have way back when
The “newer cars” have taken over ESP
Wheels have gone up in price. I think I only paid $400-450/wheel for CCW’s

CAM C looks like a class that I’d probably run in “most” of the time just for the participation.


What else has changed in 10 years LOL

[CrashTestDummy]

OH, is that landstuhltaylor here? Nice! Yes, well done, sir!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

On another note, does anyone have a link to a picture of that '81 'SVO'? As an SVO owner, inquiring minds want to know. I'd also be very interested in the list of update/backdate parts that were used, but that's for another list.

[landstuhltaylor]

OH, is that landstuhltaylor here? Nice! Yes, well done, sir!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

On another note, does anyone have a link to a picture of that '81 'SVO'? As an SVO owner, inquiring minds want to know. I'd also be very interested in the list of update/backdate parts that were used, but that's for another list.

There are some on Facebook under their profiles as well as on gotcone.com and all the other photographers sites. They had a V8 in it up until two weeks ago or so (it ran with the turbo 4 at Nats 2016 and blew up day 2). My understanding is that they have a hard time finding the turbo 4 parts but that it is much faster with that engine in it. Their first real runs in it were on the practice course on Wednesday and they were still tuning it on Thursday runs.

I'm still not sure how they justify gutting the back seat, but until it starts beating me I don't care.

And on that note, trying to get a custom diff made or get the Truetrac modified. If that doesn't work I'm probably bailing on ESP and codriving for a while until I can get a half-assed CP/CAM/SM build going. All the tricks I have up my sleeve won't be worth anything without a better diff and the G threw away what should have been an easy win with cones.

[mkm]

OH, is that landstuhltaylor here? Nice! Yes, well done, sir!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

On another note, does anyone have a link to a picture of that '81 'SVO'? As an SVO owner, inquiring minds want to know. I'd also be very interested in the list of update/backdate parts that were used, but that's for another list.

There are some on Facebook under their profiles as well as on gotcone.com and all the other photographers sites. They had a V8 in it up until two weeks ago or so (it ran with the turbo 4 at Nats 2016 and blew up day 2). My understanding is that they have a hard time finding the turbo 4 parts but that it is much faster with that engine in it. Their first real runs in it were on the practice course on Wednesday and they were still tuning it on Thursday runs.

I'm still not sure how they justify gutting the back seat, but until it starts beating me I don't care.

And on that note, trying to get a custom diff made or get the Truetrac modified. If that doesn't work I'm probably bailing on ESP and codriving for a while until I can get a half-assed CP/CAM/SM build going. All the tricks I have up my sleeve won't be worth anything without a better diff and the G threw away what should have been an easy win with cones.

I have a T2R for sale if interested. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[landstuhltaylor]

OH, is that landstuhltaylor here? Nice! Yes, well done, sir!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

On another note, does anyone have a link to a picture of that '81 'SVO'? As an SVO owner, inquiring minds want to know. I'd also be very interested in the list of update/backdate parts that were used, but that's for another list.

There are some on Facebook under their profiles as well as on gotcone.com and all the other photographers sites. They had a V8 in it up until two weeks ago or so (it ran with the turbo 4 at Nats 2016 and blew up day 2). My understanding is that they have a hard time finding the turbo 4 parts but that it is much faster with that engine in it. Their first real runs in it were on the practice course on Wednesday and they were still tuning it on Thursday runs.

I'm still not sure how they justify gutting the back seat, but until it starts beating me I don't care.

And on that note, trying to get a custom diff made or get the Truetrac modified. If that doesn't work I'm probably bailing on ESP and codriving for a while until I can get a half-assed CP/CAM/SM build going. All the tricks I have up my sleeve won't be worth anything without a better diff and the G threw away what should have been an easy win with cones.

I have a T2R for sale if interested. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Same question as above, how old is it and how much use does it have? I'm just concerned how much life it has left.

I do have a possible lead on getting a custom diff made, hoping to get that ball rolling this weekend. If either of these pan out my next project will be tackling an M29 swap.

PJ and I compared data from his car which I think is the car to beat right now with the HR swap and 335s. The G was taking a bit wider line and was able to carry a bit more speed through the corner, but the LS pulls it on the straight. Slaloms were dead even and came down to me screwing up the entry. The diff burned me a bit on the two major rights on the course, but then I pulled and extra 1.5mph from 50-60 and 2.5mph from 60-70. That's with the tall stock gearing for an 81mph second. Anything over 40mph is an advantage for me.

This post has been edited by landstuhltaylor: Sep 11 2018, 11:23 PM

[mkm]

OH, is that landstuhltaylor here? Nice! Yes, well done, sir!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

On another note, does anyone have a link to a picture of that '81 'SVO'? As an SVO owner, inquiring minds want to know. I'd also be very interested in the list of update/backdate parts that were used, but that's for another list.

There are some on Facebook under their profiles as well as on gotcone.com and all the other photographers sites. They had a V8 in it up until two weeks ago or so (it ran with the turbo 4 at Nats 2016 and blew up day 2). My understanding is that they have a hard time finding the turbo 4 parts but that it is much faster with that engine in it. Their first real runs in it were on the practice course on Wednesday and they were still tuning it on Thursday runs.

I'm still not sure how they justify gutting the back seat, but until it starts beating me I don't care.

And on that note, trying to get a custom diff made or get the Truetrac modified. If that doesn't work I'm probably bailing on ESP and codriving for a while until I can get a half-assed CP/CAM/SM build going. All the tricks I have up my sleeve won't be worth anything without a better diff and the G threw away what should have been an easy win with cones.

I have a T2R for sale if interested. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Same question as above, how old is it and how much use does it have? I'm just concerned how much life it has left.

I do have a possible lead on getting a custom diff made, hoping to get that ball rolling this weekend. If either of these pan out my next project will be tackling an M29 swap.

PJ and I compared data from his car which I think is the car to beat right now with the HR swap and 335s. The G was taking a bit wider line and was able to carry a bit more speed through the corner, but the LS pulls it on the straight. Slaloms were dead even and came down to me screwing up the entry. The diff burned me a bit on the two major rights on the course, but then I pulled and extra 1.5mph from 50-60 and 2.5mph from 60-70. That's with the tall stock gearing for an 81mph second. Anything over 40mph is an advantage for me.

Diff is about 4 years old never had any wheel spin with it. It was one of the last ones sold.

Mark

[landstuhltaylor]

Yeah, gotcone.com finally posted up ESP pics. Not much of a car. ESP-legal turbo 2.3s for that thing are starting to get rare, and parts expensive. Sad they're no longer running the turbo, but I can understand. The rear seats aren't that heavy in those cars. Heck, the folding rear seats in the hatch aren't that heavy, either, and we folded them down in our SVO to get the weight lower. I guess they pulled the back seats because racecar? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

I was amazed at the speed you were able to achieve in that thing without having to shift. 81 MPH, wow!

They did run the turbo 4. I think they finished building it and got it in the car the Wednesday before Nats.

Stock 2nd is 78 but after Peru I bumped it to 6500rpm and 81mph. A bit risky with the 98 rod bolts and 165k but if it blows it blows. Only hit 73 on the courses this week so I think the M29 and either a 3.42 (71mph) or 3.23 (74mph) at 6500 would be much better and dig the car out of 35mph stuff a lot faster. Current peak is 0.52G accel at around the 56mph mark.

Diff is about 4 years old never had any wheel spin with it. It was one of the last ones sold.

Mark

Want to PM what you would want for it? I'm supposed to pull my diff to see if the guy thinks he can make something with at least a 4:1 TBR but obviously no idea just yet. I don't think it would be pre-loaded at all so may still not be quite as good as a T2R.

This post has been edited by landstuhltaylor: Sep 12 2018, 01:56 PM