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> The new to me 2002 Z28 (convertible)
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post May 25 2016, 01:56 AM
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Our 95 Z vert has amazingly little cowl shake, and it has SFCs and a STB. I can only think they do help some in that aspect.
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post May 25 2016, 02:49 AM
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QUOTE (Steve91T @ May 24 2016, 04:12 PM) *
I've read on here that the STB does nothing for handling. I'm telling you I feel a surprisingly big difference in steering response. I've driven my car back to back with and without it many times and the difference is so big that I always nearly run off the road to the inside after installing it again.

I would imagine that a convertible will need it even more than a T-top car. Plus it makes the engine compartment look cool.

Agreed on the steering response comment.
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post May 25 2016, 10:59 AM
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You might be able to generate the same skidpad numbers and you can possibly run an autocross course just as quickly without the STB. However, I feel that it helps the "feel" of the car. The car may not be faster or corner any harder, but it seems to "refine" the driving experience to some degree. And for that reason alone, I'll keep putting them on cars. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post May 25 2016, 02:16 PM
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Parts are starting to arrive (now if the title would just get here). The shifter arrived from Jegs yesterday as well as an SLP front license plate bracket, diff cover gasket and a skip shift eliminator (it was all shipped from the warehouse) and I found that Summit Racing still had one of the black Hurst 6 speed shift knobs (Hurst shows that they have discontinued those and now only sell the white version) so I ordered that and an SLP "lid". Tonight is my last night of welding class (Advanced TIG) and then I'm going to try to get in the garage and get started on some of the basics. I'm also waiting for an order from UMI to arrive, then I can break out the welder and start the fun stuff!

As I make changes, my wife is going to be test driving the car. The goal is to explain each modification and let her learn the real world effects (chassis stiffness, if it makes noises, etc) of each change. She's been through the BMW performance driving school (when she worked for BMW), so she's not exactly new to performance cars and driving. I think this is going to be fun. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post May 25 2016, 05:50 PM
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Awesome car ...

You were looking at new. What made you decide on a "vintage" camaro?
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post May 25 2016, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE (mitchntx @ May 25 2016, 01:50 PM) *
Awesome car ...

You were looking at new. What made you decide on a "vintage" camaro?


Other than sitting in a new one....I was trying not to get rid of my truck. I just expected that I was going to "want" a new one (they are pretty quick and I don't have to touch anything but maybe some suspension). I had family in town recently and the crew cab does a great job of hauling them around town....sadly it's likely one of my more practical decisions.

Honestly I gave up on buying another 4th gen due to the insane prices. I told my wife "I quit". And she liked this convertible (I didn't really want one) and the salesman emailed me back. It seemed pretty reasonable for the condition and I figured it's sorta the devil I know....

Based on current prices, I should be able to keep it a year and ask double what I paid for it..... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/drink.gif)

There's still a small part of me that feels that I should preserve it...just as it is. It's like when you go to a car show and see an original 66 mustang that's dead stock right down to the skinny little bias ply tires. You know it's not fast, but you have to respect the fact that you are actually seeing one as it actually existed from the factory. It's really a time capsule car, stock right down to the air lid and paper filter. I'm a bit shocked at how utterly original it is.
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post May 26 2016, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE (trackbird @ May 25 2016, 01:10 PM) *
Honestly I gave up on buying another 4th gen due to the insane prices.


I thought the same thing until I found this "gem". 167k miles, both window motors burned out, both window tracks shot, exhaust held on by baby C-clamps instead of bolts, random ghetto stereo wiring, 2 sets of LS1 badges (in case you didn't know), and a cylinder with no compression. At least it has a T56. Pretty sure it's going to be a drive train donor for Tragically Teal. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

(IMG:http://i64.tinypic.com/1zguyr7.jpg)

Doubt your time capsule will need any parts, but if you need something let me know.
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post May 26 2016, 10:49 AM
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I ran into a few 175k mile cars for $3995 (they are out there...and they were 6 speeds). I found a pretty nice '98 SS (in NBM...which I like AND an ebony interior instead of saddle/tan) with 95k on it for $8995. The dealer put it on a lift and sent me pics and I was ready to go buy it when I realized it was a hardtop car (no T tops). Gotta have t tops, targa or a convertible for summer enjoyment. That was the "last" car I was looking at, and I think it's still out there (but I'm not sure).

Tragically teal is back on track? Or on a track at all? That's awesome! I actually told my wife that in hindsight, I should have kept that car and then gone looking for this convertible (or something). I tried to "save" the engine and build a street car (using a Corvette) and for all the money and headaches, I'd have been better off owning the teal terror AND something like this Z28....and it would have been cheaper. Oh well.

Speaking of which, I still have an engine in my garage (from the Camaro/Corvette). Splayed main cap small block. It's looking for a good home! I need the space and it doesn't fit anything I own (though my wife really wants a '69 Camaro....so.....). (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

If I stumble into anything, I'll give you a yell.

This car doesn't even have any scratches on the lower air dam, I don't think the plastic has ever drug the ground (the radiator air deflector up under the body). It's almost scary under there. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post May 27 2016, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE (trackbird @ May 26 2016, 05:49 AM) *
Tragically teal is back on track? Or on a track at all? That's awesome! I actually told my wife that in hindsight, I should have kept that car and then gone looking for this convertible (or something). I tried to "save" the engine and build a street car (using a Corvette) and for all the money and headaches, I'd have been better off owning the teal terror AND something like this Z28....and it would have been cheaper. Oh well.

Speaking of which, I still have an engine in my garage (from the Camaro/Corvette). Splayed main cap small block. It's looking for a good home! I need the space and it doesn't fit anything I own (though my wife really wants a '69 Camaro....so.....). (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Getting married, buying a house, and having a son put it on the back burner for a while, but it's coming out of mothballs soon. CMC is the largest pony car class in the Great Lakes region these days. So, I'm headed that way.

I saw your text about the engine, but I was prepping for Road America and forgot about it. Send me the info and your asking price. I'm probably not in the market unless I blow up the little 305 that could, but you never know.

QUOTE (trackbird @ May 26 2016, 05:49 AM) *
This car doesn't even have any scratches on the lower air dam, I don't think the plastic has ever drug the ground (the radiator air deflector up under the body). It's almost scary under there. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)


That's crazy. Sounds like a museum piece, but what's the fun in that? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post May 27 2016, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (nape @ May 27 2016, 09:40 AM) *
That's crazy. Sounds like a museum piece, but what's the fun in that? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


That has been my dilemma. I feel like I should rub it with a diaper and preserve it. It may be the last surviving unicorn. But, I think I'll have more fun having fun with it. Everything I do can be removed and "put back" with the exception of welding in subframe connectors....and what convertible doesn't need subframe connectors?
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post May 27 2016, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE (trackbird @ May 24 2016, 11:01 AM) *
QUOTE (UMI Performance @ May 24 2016, 11:37 AM) *
This car looks super clean. We are pretty excited to be part of this project. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)


Thanks Ryan! I'm really looking forward to it. It's nice to be back in a 4th gen and I think the convertible is going to be a fun change over what I'm used to. I haven't been shopping for 4th gen parts for a while so I was pleased to see how the UMI product line has expanded since I was last in the market (I had no idea you guys had sway bars among other things).


We've been hitting the 4th gen market hard the past few years, it's been very good to us and really the vehicle we started with. Getting more into autocross and now more and more road course has really pushed us to enhance our products and develop new products. As you guys already know, a season of racing really shows you weak points on a car and what needs changed or repaired. A road course really really shows this as well, we've been hitting a few different courses each year.

We are really excited about the new coilovers, I love driving on them and really feel we have a great new product.
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post May 27 2016, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (UMI Performance @ May 27 2016, 10:35 AM) *
We've been hitting the 4th gen market hard the past few years, it's been very good to us and really the vehicle we started with. Getting more into autocross and now more and more road course has really pushed us to enhance our products and develop new products. As you guys already know, a season of racing really shows you weak points on a car and what needs changed or repaired. A road course really really shows this as well, we've been hitting a few different courses each year.

We are really excited about the new coilovers, I love driving on them and really feel we have a great new product.


I've been looking at those more and more and I'm looking forward to trying them. I like learning new things and I've done Koni's and springs in the past. I'm anxious to report on these once I get everything else done and get to the "springs/shocks and wheels" portion of the project. It looks like a pretty nice kit and it appears to be extremely "complete".
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post May 27 2016, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (nape @ May 25 2016, 08:22 PM) *
Doubt your time capsule will need any parts, but if you need something let me know.


If you start selling parts off that NBM Camaro, I might be interested in a few items (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 27 2016, 06:25 PM
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The UPS man brought 3 of my 4 boxes from UMI today. I'm hoping the last one wanders in today, if not I'm sure they'll get it here soon. It's like Christmas in May!

And the parts passed their cat scan with flying colors! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post May 27 2016, 06:44 PM
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So I'm not the only one with a home-office Supervisor! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)
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post May 28 2016, 02:13 AM
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QUOTE (trackbird @ May 27 2016, 02:25 PM) *
And the parts passed their cat scan with flying colors! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


How's my Petey doing? Been too long since I've seen him.
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post May 28 2016, 06:53 AM
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Is that the devil cat?
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post May 28 2016, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (bubba353z @ May 27 2016, 10:13 PM) *
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And the parts passed their cat scan with flying colors! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


How's my Petey doing? Been too long since I've seen him.


He's pretty rotten, so nothing has changed. We need to catch up soon. Maybe this weekend?

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Is that the devil cat?


Nope, that's Pete. You are friends with Midnight. I took Midnight to live with my ex. Trying to concentrate the evil in one place far away from me. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post May 28 2016, 08:22 PM
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Got to see the Z in person today - it is truly an outstanding looking car.

Definitely well bought!
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QUOTE (trackbird @ May 28 2016, 08:42 AM) *
Nope, that's Pete. You are friends with Midnight. I took Midnight to live with my ex. Trying to concentrate the evil in one place far away from me. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


LOL ... I still have the Christmas card from Midnight.

Midnight and Chester the mouse were FRRAX classics.
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