Anyone interested in coming out to Waterford Hills for the first open track day of 2006? All experience levels welcome. I will have my T2 car there. Should also be a nice group of 3rd gen AS Camaros. Contact me for more details.

Jeff
fireball25f500@yahoo.com

http://www.waterfordhills.com/otd106.pdf

(IMG:http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e230/fireball25f500/T2/MAY_0783.jpg)

If the weather looks to be nice I will come out. Care to take a few laps with a newbie?? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Sure I will run a few laps with you. I am going to watch the weather myself. If it is nice I will definately be there.

I saw your other post about a drag car set up. If you are looking for tires, look here. Approximately 1/2 price.
https://www.hoosiertire.com/discontinuedtires.htm

Jeff

Excellent! I wouldn't mind someone who knows the track riding along for a little bit so I can get used to it. Even better that you are an Fbody guy. I appreciate it.

Thanks for the link. I plan on running nitto nt555r-II's all the way around eventually, seeing as its not an all out race car. If I make it out on Sunday it will have the R-II's in front, and the 555r drag radials in back. Same tread, different sidewall. Would you reccomend any of the hoosier road race tires, one over another? and how big of a difference would I see in a 16" racing tire vs. a 17"? I have my stock 16" formula/TA wheels that I could put race only tires on. What do you think? (for road race events I will switch to a agressive race brake pad if that matters)


Should be a good weekend. Drag racing on Saturday, Road Racing on Sunday. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by QUASAR: May 22 2006, 07:16 PM

If you are buying tires, I would put 16" R (not A) compound tires on the car. You won't believe the difference. You could expect 4 seconds a lap, but more important will be the way the tire feels. I don't think a drag radial would have the sidewall strength for repeated track use. I would get them off the car if you have the money to. Look at the P255/50R16.

T2 cars have to run stock brake systems. A good combination is a set of road race front pads and stock rear pads. I run Carbotech linings. Performance friction 01 pads work well also. I don't like Hawk, but other have had success. Race fronts, stock rears can also help the balance that causes hop under braking.

See you there, and glad to offer the instruction.
Jeff

Judging by the picture, you are running stock 16" camaro wheels? Are those class rules? Would you gain anything from going to a 17"? You think 4 of those 16" hoosiers would be better than 4 R compound nittos? (probably, since the nittos are a street/track tire and the hoosiers are a race tire, just asking though)

I am running Carbotech XP12 front pads/new stock rotors, and Bobcat rear pads/new rotors. They worked nicely at Grattan, and that was in the wet.

Yes, SCCA T2 rules for Camaro/Firebirds require a 16x8.

I think a P275/40R17 road race tire would be better on the car. But it sounds like you have a spare set of 16s sitting around. I will start by saying I don't know the Nitto. In general a 16" road race tire (Hoosier, Kuhmo, Goodyear) will always be better on track than a street tire. This is regardless of the fact that it is a 17" tire. They are designed for that specific application. I recommend the Hoosier because it is about $150 each. That is a great price, if you have the money. The fear I have about your tires is the cornering compliance of the drag radial. I would expect the tire is designed to maximize longitudinal traction at the expense of lateral grip. If I am correct, the balance of the car is going to be very nonlinear.

Brake wise, you are fine. I would bleed the system before the event.

Have fun and see you there

Jeff, where can I get some of the Valvoline synthetiic 500 degree brake fluid? Is it the one thats on the shelf at any local autoparts store? RIght now i'm using the Prestone synthetic. The fluid is fresh.

I'm also looking for a full synthetic power steering fluid, and can only find the syn-blend valvoline.

Thanks
John

Murray's discount auto carries the Valvoline SynPower locally.
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail....rpartnumber=059

It isn't my first choice, but it is better than stock.

These guys have a lot of fluids. The Wilwood 570 is the same price as the SynPower and has better temp capabilities. The AP and Castrol are really good, but getting more expensive.
http://www.raceshopper.com/brake_fluid.shtml

Synthetic power steering fluid? I don't use it but go with the RedLine. I probably should. Racerwholesale will have it to the door in a couple days if it is in stock. They are local to the midwest. I have had really good experiences with them in the past.
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/

Sorry for the non-sponsor plugs, just people that I have had luck with.

This post has been edited by fireball25f500: May 23 2006, 01:39 PM

It doesn't say anything about the Willwood being DOT3 compatible. What fluid do you use?

I usually order my Redline PS fluid from Stranoparts and he can get you ATE Superblue brake fluid as well (it's great stuff, I've been using it for years). It's better than the synpower and not expensive. I usually buy my ATE at Summit Point Raceway when I'm there every year, but Sam carries it as well which lets you combine shipping on one order (if you can't find it elsewhere).

I have 570 Fluid from Keith Averill. Keith is in Madison Heights.
http://www.racing-stuff.com/fluids.htm

I will give them a call. They are on my way home from work.

I saw on another site that the Wilwood stuff is DOT3. I just rather get everything from one place so i'll search around a bit.

That sounds like fun! Maybe I can convince my wifey to go on a road trip. My wife suffers from Fibromyalgia so traveling long distances is a bit of a challenge. It's about 4hrs from me. So leave Sat. stay at a hotel that night and Sunday night, Go home Labor day evening. My car needs tires (my front right is about to cord), that why I haven't been to the track yet + plus all the freaking rain. If I can't get a new set by then I'll have to use 2 of my WS6 rims with some spares skins in front. Oddly enough I still have decent amount of tread in the rear tires I guess I neet to catch up on my burnouts (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) . Put me on as a maybe.

If all else fails BeaveRun is having a "Flat Out Friday" on the 26th. They are 2hrs away. I'm having racing withdrawals.

This post has been edited by killer_bluebird: May 24 2006, 09:04 AM

Stopped there today after work. He is a nice guy. Thanks for the suggestion. Got both the brake and P/S fluid I needed.

Thanks

This post has been edited by QUASAR: May 24 2006, 07:22 AM

It looks like a go barring we get hotel reservations done. But other than that it looks like we'll be there, I'll Look you guys up. Hey Jeff how do you pre-register? and What is/wasthe deadline? I mean saving $25 is an extra $25 for Gas.

This post has been edited by killer_bluebird: May 24 2006, 09:11 AM

Registration information can be found online.

http://www.waterfordhills.com/otd106reg.pdf

I sent mine in this morning. Hope to see you guys there. Looks like some nice weather.

This post has been edited by fireball25f500: May 24 2006, 01:52 PM

It said that entries must be sent in by the 24th. I will call the track today and see if I can pay over the phone. If not I'll just arrive early and register there. Hopefully its not full.

Ok, Hotel reservations are a go, Registrations were sent, Tires ordered hopefully they get here by friday so I can get them mounted and then I'll have the car's alignment checked. I'm Really looking forward meeting you guys! See you in a few days.

What tires did you end up going with?

I will be flushing my brake fluid, p/s, and transmission in the next day or so to get ready.


Jeff, what motor oil do the LS1 guys run? Before Grattan 2 weeks ago I put in some synthetic 10w-40 because I thought the 5-30 might be too thin at high oil temps over a sustained period of time.