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wannafbody
post Jul 6 2009, 12:44 AM
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Well, in my quest for a fun, relatively inexpensive car I crossed to the dark side. It's not quite a Ford, so it's beyond the dark side, it's a Mazda Miata. The car is solid with a new clutch, muffler and tires and a relatively low mileage engine. After inquiring about the car I realized the owner was a friend of one of my friend's dad(saw the car at church this morning). After I settled on the deal he says...oh and I got an extra head I'll throw in and the hard top too. Not a bad day.

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post Jul 6 2009, 01:11 AM
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You're not the only one here (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I bought a 99 Sport, and I know there's at least one more dark-sider here. What did you get?
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post Jul 6 2009, 01:31 AM
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I got a 90 Miata with the body kit and 120,000 miles on the body and 68,000 on the engine.
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post Jul 6 2009, 01:36 AM
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I like those cars. I got to drive a '92 Miata on our only "road course" in AK. Had Ground Control coilovers, Koni shocks, short shifter, a little four pt bolt in roll bar. One of the easiest cars i've driven. I absolutely LOVED the pedal configuration. Made heel-toeing super easy. The car was a great driver, point-and-shoot operation. I almost wanted to sell my Camaro to get one. Then i got back in mine and remembered how nice 300+ hp is. The Miata barely touched 90MPH in spots my f-bod was hitting 110+MPH. Great little cars though!
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post Jul 6 2009, 02:02 AM
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Sgarnett, what grade oil would you recommend for the Miata?
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post Jul 6 2009, 02:44 AM
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I'll just leave this here..

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post Jul 6 2009, 02:58 AM
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Personally, I don't know. So, I just fall back on using the factory spec 10w-30, but I use Redline and try to be gentle while it's warming up. The previous owner used Mobil One 10w-30. It doesn't use oil and still starts fine on what I think is the original battery.

However, the lifters were changed to solid in 99 (mine). The hydraulic lifters are reputed to be a bit finicky about oil.

Have you looked for your oil filter yet? Do you know if the timing belt was replaced? It's due at 60k.
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post Jul 6 2009, 03:49 AM
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He recommended changing the timing belt. Where is the oil filter located?
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post Jul 6 2009, 06:32 AM
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Given enough time, I'll probably be jumping to this dark side too. I just need to find someone willing to buy my car, and I'm not trying very hard to sell it... yet. I'll probably get more serious after I wrap up my class for this season. I'm looking forward to being able to work on an engine that isn't half buried in the passenger compartment. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I know I'll eventually regret selling my TA though.
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post Jul 6 2009, 11:19 AM
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The oil filter is under the intake manifold. The easiest way to access it is to turn the steering all the way to the left and reach in through the wheel well. A lot of people use a disposable diaper to catch the oil that spills when you unscrew the filter. I use a Coolwhip tub and a little funnel or gutter I made by bending a piece of aluminum flashing.

If the car wasn't set up for C-stock, I'd install a filter relocation kit. There are several to choose from.

I'd suggest researching lift points on miata.net.

Not long ago, I saw a Miata with a built 383 LS6.
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post Jul 6 2009, 01:40 PM
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This car is pretty much stock. It has crappy Sensatrack shocks on it. I can reach my hand in from top and reach the oil filter. I think that would be the easiest way to get to it with the engine cold. The guy who I bought it from is about 60 so he's a bit old school(he owns a 56 T Bird) and he was running 15W50 in it. I'll probably drain that and replace with some synthetic 5w30.
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post Jul 6 2009, 02:13 PM
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As a friend and fellow racer says:

"There are 2 kinds of racers - those who race Miatas and dumb people."

Yeah, we know that there are faster racecars, and there are better looking ones. But, for sheer reliability, competition, aftermarket support, and cost, a Miata cannot be touched.
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post Jul 6 2009, 03:18 PM
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Of the people who don't stick with 10W-30, there are two camps. One camp seems to have the goal of seeing just how thin they can go with modern oils (0W-20, for instance). I think the justification is somewhere between mpg and cold startup wear. Then there's the old school, thick camp for track use. Many seem to like the 0W-40 synthetics, for whatever little that's worth. I use 5W-40 Redline in my oil-fired Camaro because it seems reduce consumption compared to 10W-40 Redline.

I think the manifolds did change over time. I'm fairly sure that mine has the variable intake geometry manifold, which is probably more bulky than the conventional manifold. Regardless, there's no way I could get to my oil filter from the top.
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post Jul 6 2009, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (sgarnett @ Jul 6 2009, 06:19 AM) *
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I'd suggest researching lift points on miata.net.

Not long ago, I saw a Miata with a built 383 LS6.


They work well with pretty-stock LSx motors:

http://www.pbase.com/beagleracing/the_lsx_project

He did pretty well in SM (or was is SM2?) with this one at the first SCCA Southwest Division 2009 Divisionals.
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post Jul 6 2009, 09:58 PM
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Yeah, if I was going to do a swap, I'd use a stock LS6 for reliability and rpm headroom except for upgrading the oil pan baffle.
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post Jul 6 2009, 10:02 PM
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How many quarts of oil does the 1.6L take?
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post Jul 6 2009, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Jul 6 2009, 02:23 PM) *
QUOTE (sgarnett @ Jul 6 2009, 06:19 AM) *
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I'd suggest researching lift points on miata.net.

Not long ago, I saw a Miata with a built 383 LS6.


They work well with pretty-stock LSx motors:

http://www.pbase.com/beagleracing/the_lsx_project

He did pretty well in SM (or was is SM2?) with this one at the first SCCA Southwest Division 2009 Divisionals.


Dan ran his LS1 Miata in XP. Any LSx powered Mazda will have to run in XP or above. No engine swaps outside of manufacturer family in Street Modified. SM2 no longer exists and has been changed to SSM. Miatas with legal engines would go to SSM, since they are 2 seaters.

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post Jul 7 2009, 11:24 AM
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This is what a Miata looks like after hitting the wall between turns 2 & 3 at Mosport GP on Sunday;
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wannafbody
post Jul 7 2009, 01:43 PM
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What AX class would a Miata with stock springs run vs one with aftermarket springs?
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post Jul 7 2009, 04:06 PM
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A stock 1.6 Miata is in E-stock, put spring on it and you're looking at either STS or CSP (probably STS is best to be able to use "street tires").
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