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ESPCamaro
post Aug 12 2018, 12:41 PM
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So......a long long time ago I spent a bunch of time here. And then I didn’t (long story)

Well I’m pretty much set on the idea I’m going to be autocrossing a 4th gen again.

So what has changed?

Some things I’ve found already:
Tires are drastically more expensive
Available “good” r compound options are even more limited
Street prepared has some allowances I would have liked to have way back when
The “newer cars” have taken over ESP
Wheels have gone up in price. I think I only paid $400-450/wheel for CCW’s

CAM C looks like a class that I’d probably run in “most” of the time just for the participation.


What else has changed in 10 years LOL
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post Sep 15 2018, 12:48 AM
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You could get a trans rebuild and spec the other gears. Externally it would look the same. I have a rebuild TR6060 and I could have gotten the lower gears; but I kept the stock ratios. I guess you can get a good launch with the lower gears, usually good, but maybe you need to hit 3rd gear for a very fast course. At my region's airstrip location, I still don't even get to 3rd gear, but at top of 2nd a lot, but not sure that on slicks I'd need much more actual speed for Autocross.
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post Sep 15 2018, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Sep 14 2018, 06:48 PM) *
You could get a trans rebuild and spec the other gears. Externally it would look the same. I have a rebuild TR6060 and I could have gotten the lower gears; but I kept the stock ratios. I guess you can get a good launch with the lower gears, usually good, but maybe you need to hit 3rd gear for a very fast course. At my region's airstrip location, I still don't even get to 3rd gear, but at top of 2nd a lot, but not sure that on slicks I'd need much more actual speed for Autocross.



Which would be blatant cheating
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post Sep 15 2018, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 15 2018, 06:38 AM) *
QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Sep 14 2018, 06:48 PM) *
You could get a trans rebuild and spec the other gears. Externally it would look the same. I have a rebuild TR6060 and I could have gotten the lower gears; but I kept the stock ratios. I guess you can get a good launch with the lower gears, usually good, but maybe you need to hit 3rd gear for a very fast course. At my region's airstrip location, I still don't even get to 3rd gear, but at top of 2nd a lot, but not sure that on slicks I'd need much more actual speed for Autocross.



Which would be blatant cheating


Yeah, unless it's a lump off a factory shelf with those ratios, you can't pick and choose what's inside it and stay in the letter of the rules. If there's no update/backdate transmission available like that, you can't do it. That's the way *SP rules are.

Or, welcome to C Prepared! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)
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post Sep 16 2018, 06:31 AM
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QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Sep 15 2018, 05:10 PM) *
QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 15 2018, 06:38 AM) *
QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Sep 14 2018, 06:48 PM) *
You could get a trans rebuild and spec the other gears. Externally it would look the same. I have a rebuild TR6060 and I could have gotten the lower gears; but I kept the stock ratios. I guess you can get a good launch with the lower gears, usually good, but maybe you need to hit 3rd gear for a very fast course. At my region's airstrip location, I still don't even get to 3rd gear, but at top of 2nd a lot, but not sure that on slicks I'd need much more actual speed for Autocross.



Which would be blatant cheating


Yeah, unless it's a lump off a factory shelf with those ratios, you can't pick and choose what's inside it and stay in the letter of the rules. If there's no update/backdate transmission available like that, you can't do it. That's the way *SP rules are.

Or, welcome to C Prepared! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)


I'm leaning towards a FAST 102 instead of tjhe trans swap. M29 is possiboe but most likely not with the small clucth and would require fabrication on top of that. The manifikd seems likr a better long term investment with the eventual LS2 build for CP. I think I have one more year of ESP before making the jumo.
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ESPCamaro   SO WHAT HAS CHANGED??   Aug 12 2018, 12:41 PM
axoid   Not only have tires gotten more expensive, but if ...   Aug 12 2018, 05:11 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (axoid @ Aug 12 2018, 11:11 AM) Not...   Aug 12 2018, 05:20 PM
axoid   Those tire prices are a little misleading. Hoosier...   Aug 13 2018, 05:05 PM
SuperMacGuy   I've got a set of CCW 17x11s for sale, with or...   Aug 13 2018, 10:00 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Aug 13 2018, 04:00 P...   Aug 14 2018, 12:34 AM
slowTA   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Aug 13 2018, 08:34 PM)...   Aug 14 2018, 01:11 AM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Aug 13 2018, 08:34 PM)...   Aug 15 2018, 11:26 AM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Aug 12 2018, 07:41 AM)...   Aug 14 2018, 02:17 AM
rpoz-29   I bought 275-40-17 Nitto NT-01's earlier this ...   Aug 19 2018, 11:03 PM
GCrites80s   Are the good tires such as the Rival and ZIII suit...   Aug 24 2018, 01:29 AM
BigEnos   A7s are competitive over a much longer lifespan th...   Aug 26 2018, 04:27 PM
ESPCamaro   The lack of participation, the cost of tires and t...   Sep 2 2018, 01:44 PM
SuperMacGuy   As much as I complain about CAM classes, I may do ...   Sep 2 2018, 11:14 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Sep 2 2018, 06:14 PM...   Sep 3 2018, 02:50 PM
ESPCamaro   Yeah I’d like to see the new Camaro/Mustang cars...   Sep 3 2018, 02:14 PM
ESPCamaro   Nothing is as nice as driving your car on a traile...   Sep 3 2018, 02:15 PM
SuperMacGuy   Without typing for 30 minutes, it sort of boils do...   Sep 3 2018, 11:39 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Sep 3 2018, 06:39 PM...   Sep 4 2018, 02:18 AM
ESPCamaro   One thing that has changed for sure..... All forum...   Sep 8 2018, 09:16 PM
SuperMacGuy   Internet slowness is a product of a few things: Ev...   Sep 8 2018, 10:12 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Aug 12 2018, 08:41 AM)...   Sep 9 2018, 02:22 PM
79T/A   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Sep 9 2018, 02:2...   Sep 10 2018, 07:30 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 8 2018, 05:16 PM) ...   Sep 11 2018, 11:01 AM
CrashTestDummy   OH, is that landstuhltaylor here? Nice! Yes,...   Sep 11 2018, 01:10 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Sep 11 2018, 09:1...   Sep 11 2018, 02:06 PM
mkm   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Sep 11 2018, 09...   Sep 11 2018, 09:11 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (mkm @ Sep 11 2018, 05:11 PM) QUOTE...   Sep 11 2018, 11:16 PM
mkm   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Sep 11 2018, 06...   Sep 12 2018, 01:19 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Sep 12 2018, 08:4...   Sep 12 2018, 01:54 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Sep 11 2018, 09...   Sep 12 2018, 12:46 PM
slowTA   What year was the T2R built?   Sep 11 2018, 10:28 PM
79T/A   You need some preload in that thing, otherwise the...   Sep 12 2018, 10:42 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (79T/A @ Sep 12 2018, 06:42 PM) You...   Sep 12 2018, 11:44 PM
ESPCamaro   What is an M29? The mustang runs without a backse...   Sep 14 2018, 03:43 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 13 2018, 11:43 PM)...   Sep 14 2018, 11:06 AM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 14 2018, 05:06 AM)...   Sep 14 2018, 01:37 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 14 2018, 09:37 AM)...   Sep 14 2018, 03:21 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Sep 14 2018, 09...   Sep 14 2018, 06:14 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 13 2018, 10:43 PM)...   Sep 14 2018, 01:08 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Sep 14 2018, 09:0...   Sep 14 2018, 01:25 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Sep 14 2018, 07...   Sep 14 2018, 01:39 PM
ESPCamaro   Or maybe there is something else Idk.   Sep 14 2018, 06:16 PM
SuperMacGuy   You could get a trans rebuild and spec the other g...   Sep 15 2018, 12:48 AM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Sep 14 2018, 06:48 P...   Sep 15 2018, 11:38 AM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 15 2018, 06:38 AM)...   Sep 15 2018, 09:10 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Sep 15 2018, 05:1...   Sep 16 2018, 06:31 AM
Smitty2919   CAM-C, then you don't have to sweat the small ...   Sep 27 2018, 11:35 AM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (Smitty2919 @ Sep 27 2018, 05:35 AM...   Sep 29 2018, 09:53 PM
00PewterSS   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 29 2018, 09:53 PM)...   Oct 12 2018, 01:10 AM
mikedamageinc   QUOTE (00PewterSS @ Oct 11 2018, 09:10 PM...   Oct 12 2018, 02:05 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (00PewterSS @ Oct 11 2018, 07:10 PM...   Oct 13 2018, 09:54 PM
ESPCamaro   Another big change: Sounds like TONS of people use...   Oct 4 2018, 02:03 PM
SuperMacGuy   Yeah I've seen it too - the tablets hooked to ...   Oct 4 2018, 04:16 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Oct 4 2018, 10:16 AM...   Oct 4 2018, 06:06 PM
Mojave   QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Oct 4 2018, 11:16 AM...   Oct 4 2018, 07:36 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (Mojave @ Oct 4 2018, 01:36 PM) QUO...   Oct 4 2018, 10:04 PM
ESPCamaro   The other thing is I suspect it’s most useful fo...   Oct 4 2018, 06:09 PM
landstuhltaylor   It has some value as a single driver car, it has m...   Oct 4 2018, 07:26 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Oct 4 2018, 02:2...   Oct 12 2018, 04:59 PM
Hardrvin   For basic data logging and review, look into cell ...   Oct 20 2018, 12:35 PM

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