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ESPCamaro
post Aug 12 2018, 12:41 PM
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So......a long long time ago I spent a bunch of time here. And then I didn’t (long story)

Well I’m pretty much set on the idea I’m going to be autocrossing a 4th gen again.

So what has changed?

Some things I’ve found already:
Tires are drastically more expensive
Available “good” r compound options are even more limited
Street prepared has some allowances I would have liked to have way back when
The “newer cars” have taken over ESP
Wheels have gone up in price. I think I only paid $400-450/wheel for CCW’s

CAM C looks like a class that I’d probably run in “most” of the time just for the participation.


What else has changed in 10 years LOL
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post Oct 20 2018, 12:35 PM
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For basic data logging and review, look into cell phone setups. They’re honestly that good now. And you’re talking about a $20 app on hardware you already own.

Crashtestdummy is correct. Most systems take too long to pull the information and actually get anything useful. That within a given autocross day, you’d be hard pressed to digest anything for it. And it’s benefit increases greatly with a second driver to bounce off methods with. I use it for road course work and when you have tons of laps and get real time predictive lap time to tell some input for an output, that’s the height of its usefulness.

If you’re ready to take the big leap crashtestdummy, look at a Racelogic HD2. Switched to this system based on recommendations from a pro coach for a race team I manage. For drive comparisons, it’s fantastic. And it overlays the video and data as it records. Meaning I reach back, pull the SD card, and in 30 seconds I can pulling the video and dat up to review. It’s light years more user friendly than the Traqmate setup I have in my personal vehicle.
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ESPCamaro   SO WHAT HAS CHANGED??   Aug 12 2018, 12:41 PM
axoid   Not only have tires gotten more expensive, but if ...   Aug 12 2018, 05:11 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (axoid @ Aug 12 2018, 11:11 AM) Not...   Aug 12 2018, 05:20 PM
axoid   Those tire prices are a little misleading. Hoosier...   Aug 13 2018, 05:05 PM
SuperMacGuy   I've got a set of CCW 17x11s for sale, with or...   Aug 13 2018, 10:00 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Aug 13 2018, 04:00 P...   Aug 14 2018, 12:34 AM
slowTA   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Aug 13 2018, 08:34 PM)...   Aug 14 2018, 01:11 AM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Aug 13 2018, 08:34 PM)...   Aug 15 2018, 11:26 AM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Aug 12 2018, 07:41 AM)...   Aug 14 2018, 02:17 AM
rpoz-29   I bought 275-40-17 Nitto NT-01's earlier this ...   Aug 19 2018, 11:03 PM
GCrites80s   Are the good tires such as the Rival and ZIII suit...   Aug 24 2018, 01:29 AM
BigEnos   A7s are competitive over a much longer lifespan th...   Aug 26 2018, 04:27 PM
ESPCamaro   The lack of participation, the cost of tires and t...   Sep 2 2018, 01:44 PM
SuperMacGuy   As much as I complain about CAM classes, I may do ...   Sep 2 2018, 11:14 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Sep 2 2018, 06:14 PM...   Sep 3 2018, 02:50 PM
ESPCamaro   Yeah I’d like to see the new Camaro/Mustang cars...   Sep 3 2018, 02:14 PM
ESPCamaro   Nothing is as nice as driving your car on a traile...   Sep 3 2018, 02:15 PM
SuperMacGuy   Without typing for 30 minutes, it sort of boils do...   Sep 3 2018, 11:39 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Sep 3 2018, 06:39 PM...   Sep 4 2018, 02:18 AM
ESPCamaro   One thing that has changed for sure..... All forum...   Sep 8 2018, 09:16 PM
SuperMacGuy   Internet slowness is a product of a few things: Ev...   Sep 8 2018, 10:12 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Aug 12 2018, 08:41 AM)...   Sep 9 2018, 02:22 PM
79T/A   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Sep 9 2018, 02:2...   Sep 10 2018, 07:30 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 8 2018, 05:16 PM) ...   Sep 11 2018, 11:01 AM
CrashTestDummy   OH, is that landstuhltaylor here? Nice! Yes,...   Sep 11 2018, 01:10 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Sep 11 2018, 09:1...   Sep 11 2018, 02:06 PM
mkm   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Sep 11 2018, 09...   Sep 11 2018, 09:11 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (mkm @ Sep 11 2018, 05:11 PM) QUOTE...   Sep 11 2018, 11:16 PM
mkm   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Sep 11 2018, 06...   Sep 12 2018, 01:19 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Sep 12 2018, 08:4...   Sep 12 2018, 01:54 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Sep 11 2018, 09...   Sep 12 2018, 12:46 PM
slowTA   What year was the T2R built?   Sep 11 2018, 10:28 PM
79T/A   You need some preload in that thing, otherwise the...   Sep 12 2018, 10:42 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (79T/A @ Sep 12 2018, 06:42 PM) You...   Sep 12 2018, 11:44 PM
ESPCamaro   What is an M29? The mustang runs without a backse...   Sep 14 2018, 03:43 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 13 2018, 11:43 PM)...   Sep 14 2018, 11:06 AM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 14 2018, 05:06 AM)...   Sep 14 2018, 01:37 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 14 2018, 09:37 AM)...   Sep 14 2018, 03:21 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Sep 14 2018, 09...   Sep 14 2018, 06:14 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 13 2018, 10:43 PM)...   Sep 14 2018, 01:08 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Sep 14 2018, 09:0...   Sep 14 2018, 01:25 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Sep 14 2018, 07...   Sep 14 2018, 01:39 PM
ESPCamaro   Or maybe there is something else Idk.   Sep 14 2018, 06:16 PM
SuperMacGuy   You could get a trans rebuild and spec the other g...   Sep 15 2018, 12:48 AM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Sep 14 2018, 06:48 P...   Sep 15 2018, 11:38 AM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 15 2018, 06:38 AM)...   Sep 15 2018, 09:10 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Sep 15 2018, 05:1...   Sep 16 2018, 06:31 AM
Smitty2919   CAM-C, then you don't have to sweat the small ...   Sep 27 2018, 11:35 AM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (Smitty2919 @ Sep 27 2018, 05:35 AM...   Sep 29 2018, 09:53 PM
00PewterSS   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 29 2018, 09:53 PM)...   Oct 12 2018, 01:10 AM
mikedamageinc   QUOTE (00PewterSS @ Oct 11 2018, 09:10 PM...   Oct 12 2018, 02:05 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (00PewterSS @ Oct 11 2018, 07:10 PM...   Oct 13 2018, 09:54 PM
ESPCamaro   Another big change: Sounds like TONS of people use...   Oct 4 2018, 02:03 PM
SuperMacGuy   Yeah I've seen it too - the tablets hooked to ...   Oct 4 2018, 04:16 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Oct 4 2018, 10:16 AM...   Oct 4 2018, 06:06 PM
Mojave   QUOTE (SuperMacGuy @ Oct 4 2018, 11:16 AM...   Oct 4 2018, 07:36 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (Mojave @ Oct 4 2018, 01:36 PM) QUO...   Oct 4 2018, 10:04 PM
ESPCamaro   The other thing is I suspect it’s most useful fo...   Oct 4 2018, 06:09 PM
landstuhltaylor   It has some value as a single driver car, it has m...   Oct 4 2018, 07:26 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Oct 4 2018, 02:2...   Oct 12 2018, 04:59 PM
Hardrvin   For basic data logging and review, look into cell ...   Oct 20 2018, 12:35 PM

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