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Opinions on seats |
May 29 2014, 09:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 602 Joined: 3-April 14 Member No.: 223,804 |
Can you use side mount brackets on that seat? That's what I used to lay the seat back. Made it a million times more comfortable, otherwise it felt like the seat was leaning me forward. I have a sparco pro2000 mounted with the sparco side mount brackets and a wedge engineering floor bracket. I'm 5'10" and have plenty of room with my helmet on, and I have the ability to lower the seat more with the side mounts. I also have a slider to sandwich in between the mounts but so far I don't see the need for a slider since my car isn't a DD. I don't believe this can accept side mounts...at least not in factory form lol. Can always make it into a side mount system with a little fabrication. I talked with a guy at work and cooked up another mount system. To be continued. |
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Jun 16 2014, 07:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 602 Joined: 3-April 14 Member No.: 223,804 |
Well just updating this. I went with the Forza Sport and ordered the dual locking slider with their mount. With some strategic placement/removal of washers I got a slight recline to the seat to make it more comfortable.
(IMG:https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/10349017_774175850253_7106357783891731468_n.jpg) Added washers in the front: (IMG:https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10403453_774456477873_2753041195023634423_n.jpg) Removed washers between the slider and bracket in the rear: (IMG:https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10419400_774456487853_6804701968740842_n.jpg) This post has been edited by Smitty2919: Jun 16 2014, 07:32 PM |
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Jun 16 2014, 08:03 PM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
The shoulder belt routed thru the seat hole may inhibit proper operation of the retractor/tensioner mechanism. It has a mechanical inertial grabber that depends on getting a quick sharp tug on the harness if it needs to grab - like in a wreck. It works best if there is a direct path from the occupants shoulder to the reel mechanism in the roof. Sit in the seat, buckle the belt and give it a sharp tug at you belly - if it doesn't grab, try re-routing the belt outside of the seat.
The Corbeau seat brackets have design flaws - the flat tabs put a bending load on the butt welds. The weld zone is more brittle than the unaffected areas so they will crack, right next to the weld. It may be a fine weld, but in the wrong place. Inspect the spots I've indicated with red arrows periodically, if they crack you can fix by welding gusset plates, indicated in blue, oriented vertically spanning the old weld zone. (IMG:http://blainefab.com/projects/corbmnt1.jpg) (IMG:http://blainefab.com/projects/corbmnt2.jpg) |
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Jun 16 2014, 11:35 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 602 Joined: 3-April 14 Member No.: 223,804 |
Thanks for the input Alan. I nevertried the belt trick. I did it that way since there is no seat belt "hoop" on the outside of the seat to keep it from riding up the side of my face lol.
I will keep an eye on the welds on the bracket. It will be no issue to weld gusstes if they become an issue. If I bad access to the mount I would have made my own with improvements but having the car a DD I didn't have time to fabricate one. The bracket is quite simple being just flat stock lol. |
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Jun 17 2014, 12:39 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 13-January 07 From: Solebury, Pa. Member No.: 1,589 |
Supposedly, the Forza Sport is now FIA "approved" (as is their Pro Series, and Sprint).
Whether or not this means they are FIA homologated or not, I do not know (I did not check the FIA list). (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/gr_confused.gif) |
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Jun 17 2014, 01:42 AM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
Supposedly, the Forza Sport is now FIA "approved" (as is their Pro Series, and Sprint). Whether or not this means they are FIA homologated or not, I do not know (I did not check the FIA list). (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/gr_confused.gif) The list is here: http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/reg...ed_seats_16.pdf The Corbeau's have been on and off, maybe back on, the list. See p18, where it was withdrawn. Smitty, does your seat have a FIA label? It would look like this: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=fia+se...electedIndex=23 with a hologram, homologation number and date of mfr. ? If yes, what are the numbers? |
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Jun 17 2014, 02:09 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 602 Joined: 3-April 14 Member No.: 223,804 |
I don't think it has that tag. I remember asking whats the reason for the price difference between the Forza and Forza sport. He showed me the FIA tag on the Sport and that it was a "shell" seat. Apparently the Forza is just a skeleton frame seat?
I'm only running local autocross and nothing very strict so a lot of what you big time road racers look for may be above what I need. |
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Jun 17 2014, 12:31 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,794 Joined: 3-July 04 From: Pearland, Texas Member No.: 385 |
The mount does look differently than the ones we had with our 95 Z28. In order to get a more comfortable seating inclination, I used spacers on the front mounts. That caused the bracket mounts to be not properly-aligned, causing a slight bending force on the mounting bracket. This caused the adjuster to not be properly-placed to lock into place every time. Sometimes, you'd have your foot on the clutch, then >BOOM<, you'd be unable to reach the pedals of wheel because the seat slid all the way back.
Make sure the rack lock engages in the teeth of the adjuster all along the length of the rack so you don't enjoy this surprise like we did. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif) |
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Jun 17 2014, 09:57 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 602 Joined: 3-April 14 Member No.: 223,804 |
The mount does look differently than the ones we had with our 95 Z28. In order to get a more comfortable seating inclination, I used spacers on the front mounts. That caused the bracket mounts to be not properly-aligned, causing a slight bending force on the mounting bracket. This caused the adjuster to not be properly-placed to lock into place every time. Sometimes, you'd have your foot on the clutch, then >BOOM<, you'd be unable to reach the pedals of wheel because the seat slid all the way back. Make sure the rack lock engages in the teeth of the adjuster all along the length of the rack so you don't enjoy this surprise like we did. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif) Yup...already been there and done that! I put a piece of tape on the center console that lines up with the front of the seat. That way I know where I need it to be roughly and wait for it to click in. No clicky, no starty the car. That way I don't get that lovely surprise when driving etc. Well, Alan once again hit the nail on the head with the factory seatbelt not wanting to "lock" during an abrupt pull on the belt....in fact I can't get it to lock at ANY angle. I reached behind me and tugged down, up straight forward and nothing lol. Maybe I will test it hitting the brakes AND pulling to get the pendulum to swing. |
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