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> Front Rotors- Plain, Cryo Treated or High Carbon?
fast ken
post Feb 19 2018, 03:50 PM
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My HPDE 4th Gen Camaro needs some new rotors for my C5/6 front brakes. Pros and Cons of Plain, Cryo and High Carbon? The prices go from $110 to $208 for the pair. Enjoying Raybestos ST43 for pads.
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post Feb 19 2018, 05:34 PM
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I'd order the stoptech front rotors. We used to use Brembo OEM rotors, but those have been out of production for a long time for most of these cars. Stoptech makes a pillar vented rotor that's known to be quite durable (even in the OEM replacement versions, not just the two piece versions). They will be slotted, they don't seem to do a plain set. I'm about to toss a set on the rear of my Camaro to replace the original OEM rotors that appear to still be on the car.

I tried some Cryo rotors (came with a brake kit I got once) and it didn't seem to do anything. I've also seen some metallurgists say the cryo treatment just doesn't apply to rotor applications.
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post Feb 21 2018, 01:19 AM
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I’ll second the recommendation for the stoptech replacement slotted rotors. I use them on the rear of my car with race pads and they hold up really well. Made out of quality materials, nice thick rotor faces. Plus they have a really nice anti-rust coating on them that is really durable and doesn’t flake off.

I’d skip the Cryo treatment, if it was worth anything you would see professional racers use it. I think it’s a marketing gimmick for a braking application.
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post Feb 22 2018, 04:04 PM
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I did some research on the subject along with your recommendations. Discovered StopTech is made by Centric. TireRack carries the Centric rotors (not slotted) for $55 each with free shipping. Received in 1 day. Although they are made in China they appear to be machined and finished in the US.
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post Feb 22 2018, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (fast ken @ Feb 22 2018, 11:04 AM) *
I did some research on the subject along with your recommendations. Discovered StopTech is made by Centric. TireRack carries the Centric rotors (not slotted) for $55 each with free shipping. Received in 1 day. Although they are made in China they appear to be machined and finished in the US.


Yes, they are related. No, they aren't the same rotors. The Stoptech rotors are a bit different in design and in the internal venting they use. The Centric rotors are very good for the money, but they are not quite the same as the Stoptech rotors.

http://www.stoptech.com/products/rotors

Stoptech:

http://www.stoptech.com/products/rotors/st...ch-sport-rotors

Centric:

http://www.stoptech.com/products/rotors/ce...-premium-rotors
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post Feb 23 2018, 03:19 PM
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I've been using the Centric High Carbon ones for quite a while on my 94 Trans Am with great results. It's a street car set up for NASA Time Trial duty and I'm running Hawk DTC-70 pads with Blainefab ducts. I'm probably having such good luck with the cheaper rotors because of the cooling ducts though. I lost one hose during a run at Sebring and realized it pretty quickly because I could feel the difference from side to side. I didn't even need to look under the car when I came in because I could feel the heat difference just walking around the car. I'd say go with the Stoptech's since they have a better cooling fin design unless you're running a set of ducts.
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post Feb 23 2018, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (Jeff94TA @ Feb 23 2018, 10:19 AM) *
I've been using the Centric High Carbon ones for quite a while on my 94 Trans Am with great results. It's a street car set up for NASA Time Trial duty and I'm running Hawk DTC-70 pads with Blainefab ducts. I'm probably having such good luck with the cheaper rotors because of the cooling ducts though. I lost one hose during a run at Sebring and realized it pretty quickly because I could feel the difference from side to side. I didn't even need to look under the car when I came in because I could feel the heat difference just walking around the car. I'd say go with the Stoptech's since they have a better cooling fin design unless you're running a set of ducts.


Is that stock brake setup, C5 or other? Just wondering, I was looking at the high carbon Centric's for C6 but it looks like the one side directional vanes (but want to confirm), whereas I know that the slotted are straight vanes so good for either side.
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post Mar 1 2018, 05:05 PM
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Stock C5/C6 brake calipers/rotors. Brake ducts are on my to-do list. Right now the brakes suffer from further pedal travel and require more pressure as the session progresses.

Because of the limited space has anyone tried anything smaller than 3" ducts/hoses? Maybe this could be another topic if their is some interest?
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