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Chris 96 WS6
post Apr 17 2004, 08:13 PM
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I put a google ad bar somewhere on the message board?

I could place it across the top above the banner or down the left or right side.

Its not flashy, not animated, but displays contextual ads based on the content of this site, and the site earns money based on how many clicks the ads get. For example about 33 clicks is $1.

Just a way I have found to help keep the site expenses paid for going forward, but I don't want to hack all of you guys off because many of you are really picky about ads and things.

Before anyone says it again.....I WILL NEVER PUT POP UPS ON THIS SITE.
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post Apr 17 2004, 08:16 PM
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Sounds ok to me Chris! You have to grab whatever least obnoxious necessary evils! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 17 2004, 11:24 PM
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I understand why you want to do this, but have to ask, given the finite and focused community here, how long do you think it will take to get 33 clicks?
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post Apr 17 2004, 11:35 PM
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heh... do people actually click banner ads??


i wouldn't mind the ad
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post Apr 17 2004, 11:40 PM
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Fine with me.
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post Apr 17 2004, 11:55 PM
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good by me. I'll even click on it lots. I still like using google altho sometimes all I get are sweedish sites.
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post Apr 18 2004, 02:06 AM
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Personally, it just wastes valuable screen space and slows everything down.

Maybe if was ONLY on the (bottom of the) home page but not on any opened threads, and coded to download LAST instead of first ....
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Chris 96 WS6
post Apr 18 2004, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE (sgarnett @ Apr 17 2004, 08:06 PM)
Personally, it just wastes valuable screen space and slows everything down.

Maybe if was ONLY on the (bottom of the) home page but not on any opened threads, and coded to download LAST instead of first ....

Then what would be the point? Nobody would see it or click on it.
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post Apr 18 2004, 02:27 AM
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I think killing you would be rather extreme. Maybe one of us could just hold you down while the others rough you up a bit.

I view it like Chuck; you might do well to get a dollar or two a month from us clicking on generic “outdoor male” links. For the little revenue it might generate, I wouldn’t think it fair to give them more visibility than our current advertisers who contribute some real money.

Hey, I may be a contrary, uninformed naysayer, but at least I’m on topic this time.
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Chris 96 WS6
post Apr 18 2004, 02:34 AM
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QUOTE (lateapex @ Apr 17 2004, 08:27 PM)
I think killing you would be rather extreme. Maybe one of us could just hold you down while the others rough you up a bit.

I view it like Chuck; you might do well to get a dollar or two a month from us clicking on generic “outdoor male” links. For the little revenue it might generate, I wouldn’t think it fair to give them more visibility than our current advertisers who contribute some real money.

Hey, I may be a contrary, uninformed naysayer, but at least I’m on topic this time.

Good point.
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post Apr 18 2004, 02:58 AM
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I'd agree with Yang. 33 clicks for a buck doesn't seem like a good bang for the buck for having a banner on the site.

How short do you think you are on the budget to keep the site going Chris?
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post Apr 18 2004, 03:05 AM
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I do try to patronize sponsors, and a collection of relevant, small sponsor ads can actually be a valuable resource. One thing I liked on LS1.com was the sponsors page. In other words, keep the discrete alternating sponsor ad in the top corner as is, but maybe add a "Sponsors" link next to the "My Assistant" link that links to a page showing all of the sponsor ads with links to their homepages. I often used that resource when looking for something.

On the other hand, I NEVER click through on generic banner ads. If I'm searching for something unrelated to f-bodies I'll just go directly to Google or Amazon, but waiting for a banner ad to load before I can read the content I'm interested in simply does not inspire me to go impulse shopping.
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Lucas Black
post Apr 18 2004, 04:38 AM
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i have basically the same feeling on this particular banner proposal. i, just naturally, open up a new window if i find something i need to search for. this is mainly because i wish to continue to view the page that i was on at that time, but do some searching also. so therefore, i would never use the banner, unless maybe it opened into its own window. but even still, if it is only on the homepage, then i wouldn't want to have to click back just to get to it.

and 33 clicks with the traffic this site sees, i doubt would come that quickly. it might! but i doubt it.
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post Apr 18 2004, 12:13 PM
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I see this as most of the others do.

It will take up space, clutter the main page, and create VERY little income.

What would be really interesting is see a poll of all members who have 250 posts or more (Probably means those that produce the most "traffic" on the site) and see how many of them EVER click banner adds.

I know I don't.
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Chris 96 WS6
post Apr 18 2004, 07:09 PM
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Nevermind guys.

I realize the pointlessness of the proposal now.

The site expenses are covered for the year thanks to the sticker deal and the sponsors I've recruited so far.
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post Apr 18 2004, 07:34 PM
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I know. Just put it up on the sponsors page and we can all go click it 20-30 times at the beginning of each month. That way everyone wins.
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post Apr 18 2004, 09:25 PM
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anyone know how to write a program that will just automatically open up this website, "click" on the ad on the sponsors page, then reload the frrax.com page and do it over again? that should help with revenue.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 19 2004, 01:15 AM
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Lucas, it is not that easy. The software logging the click through records the IP of the host making the request, and if it sees a bunch of duplicates, knows that someone has done what you described.
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post Apr 19 2004, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE (98_1LE @ Apr 18 2004, 07:15 PM)
Lucas, it is not that easy. The software logging the click through records the IP of the host making the request, and if it sees a bunch of duplicates, knows that someone has done what you described.

it was more of a joke (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 19 2004, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (trackbird @ Apr 18 2004, 02:34 PM)
I know. Just put it up on the sponsors page and we can all go click it 20-30 times at the beginning of each month. That way everyone wins.

Some variation of that is not a bad idea. I think Amazon has some kind of deal that sales generated by clicking though can generate a small percentage kickback.

The basic idea would be, if you're going to buy something from Amazon anyway, start from frrax.

I've seen something similiar on another community site such as this (except I think it was woodworking). The purchase cost to the buyer was the same either way, so there was no penalty for starting from the website you hang out at anyway.
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