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post Apr 10 2016, 08:23 PM
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Yes, some kind of solution (block off plates/fittings, seals, adapters, etc.) which would allow the use of this reservoir on stock type/factory LS1 pumps would be welcome!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/gr_grin.gif)
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post Apr 11 2016, 03:38 AM
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Do you make a kit for the reservoir to work with a stock ls1 p/s pump? Price?
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post Apr 11 2016, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE (Blainefab @ Apr 9 2016, 05:09 PM) *
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Hmm, how tall is that reservoir, Alan? I am running an Afco reservoir and still getting drips even when using dirt-track PSF that's supposed to be more viscous. It looks like a lot of thought went into the construction of the Woodward reservoirs. It might be time to update. I was thinking of trying to add some sort of breather, to prevent pushing the fluid around the cap when things heat up, but this might be a better solution. Thanks.



The Woodward reservoir is 10" tall cap to bottom of outlet fitting - it comes with -6an male inlet, -10an male outlet fittings. I have a couple in stock, along with mounting brackets, 5/8" ID Gates PD return hose. I stocked up on this stuff before I realized that the OEM Fbody LS1 PS reservoir is not removable from the pump without some fab work. I can make a bolt on package for the LT1 cars or any other application with an external reservoir.

The Woodward reservoir is definitely a nice piece - the double wall de-aerates the fluid. I've use this reservoir on all my builds, never had a problem.

here it is next to a 2qt Canton coolant recirc tank:
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That might just work. I'll measure the tank to night, but I think I have space. Since I already have hoses running to the existing tank, -6 top, -10 bottom, may I just order the tank?

Edit: 10" will be perfect!

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post Apr 18 2016, 02:32 AM
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The reservoir is here, and installed. Thanks, Alan!! I did have to relocate my mounting bracket, as the -10 adapter for the feed line moved the reservoir up a bit. Nothing a drill couldn't fix. So, any thoughts on how full to fill it?
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post Apr 19 2016, 02:37 AM
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QUOTE (Badtzmauri @ Apr 10 2016, 08:38 PM) *
Do you make a kit for the reservoir to work with a stock ls1 p/s pump? Price?


not at this time
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post Apr 19 2016, 02:38 AM
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QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Apr 17 2016, 07:32 PM) *
The reservoir is here, and installed. Thanks, Alan!! I did have to relocate my mounting bracket, as the -10 adapter for the feed line moved the reservoir up a bit. Nothing a drill couldn't fix. So, any thoughts on how full to fill it?


I run Kens about 2" down from the top, no spooging.
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post Apr 19 2016, 12:38 PM
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Thanks. I think I'm a little over-full now, then. I'll wait to run it and make sure I don't have much air in the system before adjusting any volume.
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post Jul 28 2016, 08:41 PM
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I realized I hadn't updated this thread since the install back in April. The reservoir is freaking AWESOME!!! So far, no leaks, even after running on very aggressive concrete in 100+-deg F temperatures. I may still add a better cooler, just to help the pump and steering gear seals live, but it doesn't look like we're spilling any more PSF all over the engine bay.

Thanks, Alan!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)
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post Sep 20 2018, 02:41 PM
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Hey Alan, any chance you have found a way to add a reservoir to LS1 pumps?

Even with underdrive pulley, large cooler, Redline fluid, Turn 1 pump, and running at the "low" line, I still have overflow, and shuddering at parking lot speeds, but not sure about that

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post Sep 20 2018, 02:55 PM
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I have added a reservoir to my pump. When PSC rebuilt/deflowed it for me I had them tap the inlet/reservoir hole of the pump 1/2" NPT into which I threaded a 10an adapter. 10 AN hose to a remote reservoir that sits high and just above the pump, stores a lot more fluid and keeps it contained.

Need to dig up a pic.
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post Sep 20 2018, 03:22 PM
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I started having groaning while turning at slow speeds immediately after I converted my OEM PS lines to -6AN using the parts provided by TurnOne. I've got Alan's cooler, Redline fluid, TurnOne pump & fittings. Not sure how to trace it?
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post Sep 20 2018, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (Pranav @ Sep 20 2018, 10:55 AM) *
I have added a reservoir to my pump. When PSC rebuilt/deflowed it for me I had them tap the inlet/reservoir hole of the pump 1/2" NPT into which I threaded a 10an adapter. 10 AN hose to a remote reservoir that sits high and just above the pump, stores a lot more fluid and keeps it contained.

Need to dig up a pic.


Thats exactly what I was thinking about, a pic would be awesome if you can get some


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I started having groaning while turning at slow speeds immediately after I converted my OEM PS lines to -6AN using the parts provided by TurnOne. I've got Alan's cooler, Redline fluid, TurnOne pump & fittings. Not sure how to trace it?


How long are your lines? I think mine started when I went to a larger cooler and ran the lines up and around the fans so the pump might be having a harder time pushing thru, especially with longer lines, bigger cooler, deflowed pump
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post Sep 20 2018, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE (JimMueller @ Sep 20 2018, 11:22 AM) *
I started having groaning while turning at slow speeds immediately after I converted my OEM PS lines to -6AN using the parts provided by TurnOne. I've got Alan's cooler, Redline fluid, TurnOne pump & fittings. Not sure how to trace it?


I have the exact same issue on my car. Turn one pump, 10% under drive pulley and -6AN lines. I've been meaning to call Turn One for a quick chat.
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post Sep 20 2018, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 20 2018, 01:55 PM) *
I have the exact same issue on my car. Turn one pump, 10% under drive pulley and -6AN lines. I've been meaning to call Turn One for a quick chat.


I don't have an underdrive pulley. When I spoke with Junior at T1 prior to ordering the TUR11, he said to ensure I mentioned the make/model to ensure I received the correct orifice size. After install, he said I shouldn't be having the problem and we'd need to verify the orifice size. He described how to measure it but I've since forgotten. I'll have to get under the car to measure the AN lines. I already had the PS cooler with the OEM lines, so the only thing that changed for me were the lines and fittings at the ends of the hoses.

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post Sep 21 2018, 12:42 PM
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I didnt even know about the AN fittings when I ordered my pump. Hopefully I got the right orifice, I told them LS1/1999 F body.

I'm thinking that tapping the pump inlet for AN to remote res, using AN hose for cooler and return but stick with factory style pressure hose. That way I can pick up a replacement at any parts store if needed.
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post Sep 29 2018, 07:08 PM
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I went to lunch with the guy who fabbed and installed my -6AN lines for the conversion. He said the ID of the 6AN lines seemed slightly smaller than the OEM lines, so perhaps it's not getting enough volume. If we went to -8AN, then we might get too much volume. I don't have my OEM lines to compare, but if that's the issue then I don't know what the happy medium would be unless we changed the orifice size on the pressure side of the pump.
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post Oct 1 2018, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (JimMueller @ Sep 29 2018, 02:08 PM) *
I went to lunch with the guy who fabbed and installed my -6AN lines for the conversion. He said the ID of the 6AN lines seemed slightly smaller than the OEM lines, so perhaps it's not getting enough volume. If we went to -8AN, then we might get too much volume. I don't have my OEM lines to compare, but if that's the issue then I don't know what the happy medium would be unless we changed the orifice size on the pressure side of the pump.

How would a bigger line cause too much volume? The pump should be responsible for how much fluid gets pumped at what pressure.
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post Oct 1 2018, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE (Mojave @ Oct 1 2018, 12:26 PM) *
QUOTE (JimMueller @ Sep 29 2018, 02:08 PM) *
I went to lunch with the guy who fabbed and installed my -6AN lines for the conversion. He said the ID of the 6AN lines seemed slightly smaller than the OEM lines, so perhaps it's not getting enough volume. If we went to -8AN, then we might get too much volume. I don't have my OEM lines to compare, but if that's the issue then I don't know what the happy medium would be unless we changed the orifice size on the pressure side of the pump.

How would a bigger line cause too much volume? The pump should be responsible for how much fluid gets pumped at what pressure.


Agreed. It would have to be a flow valve or flow rate issue. But not likely something caused by the hoses. PS Pumps can run at pressures over 1000 PSI and if it's in the mood to push fluid through there...it's going to do it.
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post Jun 24 2019, 09:23 PM
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Are you still experiencing a low groan and slow speeds or did y'all find a solution. I have similar set up with a cooler and turn one pump...
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post Jun 25 2019, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE (GNC Rick @ Jun 24 2019, 05:23 PM) *
Are you still experiencing a low groan and slow speeds or did y'all find a solution. I have similar set up with a cooler and turn one pump...


I finally got my car out last night and it's still doing it. I forgot about it since I haven't really been driving it much. I still need to call turn one.
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