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IROC383
post Mar 16 2011, 12:11 AM
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Hate to ask this but can anyone help with the install of a fuel cell.
Pics and a parts list would be great.
I don't want to waste any money on buying the wrong parts.
Any help will do.
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post Mar 16 2011, 04:18 AM
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Just asking, but why do you want to do a cell? Do the rules require it? And, what are you planning to do with the car (what sanctioning bodies do you wish to run with, etc)?
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post Mar 16 2011, 06:53 AM
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I've done a 22 gal. cell in my 3rd gen. I have some pics of the process, but it includes cutting most of the trunk sheet metal and welding a support box into place.
http://photoshare.shaw.ca/image/5/9/5/1638...rep29-0.jpg?r=t
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post Mar 16 2011, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE (IROC383 @ Mar 15 2011, 05:11 PM) *
Hate to ask this but can anyone help with the install of a fuel cell.
Pics and a parts list would be great.
I don't want to waste any money on buying the wrong parts.
Any help will do.


No problem asking but let us know more about what you need - What class and sanction? For the car in your avatar? Usage? Power level?
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post Mar 16 2011, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (Blainefab @ Mar 16 2011, 07:16 AM) *
QUOTE (IROC383 @ Mar 15 2011, 05:11 PM) *
Hate to ask this but can anyone help with the install of a fuel cell.
Pics and a parts list would be great.
I don't want to waste any money on buying the wrong parts.
Any help will do.


No problem asking but let us know more about what you need - What class and sanction? For the car in your avatar? Usage? Power level?

Well, after reading the post about having to have a cell for HPDE and my ultimate intensions are to run AI, AIX, I'll need it anyway. If its not a requirement then I will stay with the factory set up. Thanks for all the response. Im very close to getting the car competition ready. Fuel cell and DOM roll cage are left. I have a full ERW from 2000' but with no log book of races to back it up so I assume that needs to come out. Is there a self life on the fuel cell? Like belts, helmet, etc. I've got the fever!
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post Mar 16 2011, 02:53 PM
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Sounds like the cage will have to come out. Fuel cells have a 5 year lifespan. Then you have to put a new bladder in them. Unless the rules have changed, I didn't think you had to have a cell for AI (but if you do install one it has to be legal and within the date limits set for the bladder). I'm building for AI (or that was the plan) and I'm not planning to do a cell quite yet (unless a rules change requires it).
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post Mar 16 2011, 03:16 PM
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You can run a stock tank in AI. I would try to run the stock tank until you have fuel starve issues, especially if you still have HPDEs to do. Fuel cells are great from a safety and performance standpoint, but the cost of new bladders every 5 years adds. I'm looking at replacing mine after this year. Between a new helmet, belts, and bladder, 2012 is going to be an expensive safety gear year.
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post Mar 16 2011, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (IROC383 @ Mar 16 2011, 07:00 AM) *
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Mar 16 2011, 07:16 AM) *
QUOTE (IROC383 @ Mar 15 2011, 05:11 PM) *
Hate to ask this but can anyone help with the install of a fuel cell.
Pics and a parts list would be great.
I don't want to waste any money on buying the wrong parts.
Any help will do.


No problem asking but let us know more about what you need - What class and sanction? For the car in your avatar? Usage? Power level?

Well, after reading the post about having to have a cell for HPDE and my ultimate intensions are to run AI, AIX, I'll need it anyway. If its not a requirement then I will stay with the factory set up. Thanks for all the response. Im very close to getting the car competition ready. Fuel cell and DOM roll cage are left. I have a full ERW from 2000' but with no log book of races to back it up so I assume that needs to come out. Is there a self life on the fuel cell? Like belts, helmet, etc. I've got the fever!


No requirement for a cell in NASA HPDE or AI/X. The OEM fuel tank, IMO, is in a safe location, except for the filler neck. Some OEM tanks/pickups will start starving at just under 1/2 tank, some will go further. IMO the most urgent reason for a cell is if you need more capacity than reworking the OEM pickup can provide: high HP motor at a long National event, or enduro, for example. If you do install a cell, it must be a FIA FT3, and the bladder lifes out at 5yrs.
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post Mar 24 2011, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE (Blainefab @ Mar 16 2011, 03:16 PM) *
QUOTE (IROC383 @ Mar 16 2011, 07:00 AM) *
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Mar 16 2011, 07:16 AM) *
QUOTE (IROC383 @ Mar 15 2011, 05:11 PM) *
Hate to ask this but can anyone help with the install of a fuel cell.
Pics and a parts list would be great.
I don't want to waste any money on buying the wrong parts.
Any help will do.


No problem asking but let us know more about what you need - What class and sanction? For the car in your avatar? Usage? Power level?

Well, after reading the post about having to have a cell for HPDE and my ultimate intensions are to run AI, AIX, I'll need it anyway. If its not a requirement then I will stay with the factory set up. Thanks for all the response. Im very close to getting the car competition ready. Fuel cell and DOM roll cage are left. I have a full ERW from 2000' but with no log book of races to back it up so I assume that needs to come out. Is there a self life on the fuel cell? Like belts, helmet, etc. I've got the fever!


No requirement for a cell in NASA HPDE or AI/X. The OEM fuel tank, IMO, is in a safe location, except for the filler neck. Some OEM tanks/pickups will start starving at just under 1/2 tank, some will go further. IMO the most urgent reason for a cell is if you need more capacity than reworking the OEM pickup can provide: high HP motor at a long National event, or enduro, for example. If you do install a cell, it must be a FIA FT3, and the bladder lifes out at 5yrs.

Thanks for the info. I will hold off for now. Im about to cut out cage and start over. You guys have been a great help. Just came back from Sebring last weekend. 57 cars ran an all out sprint for 12 hours. Great turn out. Racing season is on!
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