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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 ![]() |
A little history,
When I bought this car it had a bad throwout bearing. I fixed at, put in a used 25k mile stock clutch from a buddies car in it with a re surfaced flywheel and a GM slave. If you ran the car hard through the gears the clutch would stick on the floor in 3rd/4th. So I put a Tick master in the car, was ok for a while......after this last track event when you leave a stop light the clutch feels like it hangs up on release, slips as you let the pedal out, then when you shift the pedal is low and hard. Broken pressure plate? Bad slave? I bled the system, didn't help. What is a good stock replacement clutch? Don't need a flywheel, this one has less than 2500 miles since it was turned. If I am gonna go in there its getting a clutch and slave. Recommendations on a stock replacement clutch? |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 458 Joined: 11-October 05 From: Uniontown, Pa Member No.: 917 ![]() |
I have a Sachs o.e. clutch kit in my 94 LT1. Been in there for about 6 years now with over 100 autocross events and 30k street miles. No problems to speak of.
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FRRAX Owner/Admin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 ![]() |
Do you have headers on the car?
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 ![]() |
Stock exhaust, stock engine with free mods.
I found this clutch on Amazon for $304, thoughts? I called Exedy it only comes with the throwout bearing, no slave hydraulic. http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/details/...QQEXE04173.html This post has been edited by FASTFATBOY: Jun 6 2011, 04:46 PM |
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FRRAX Owner/Admin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 ![]() |
I'm guessing you could be boiling the fluid in the clutch lines. I've seen it on the dyno, and it's happened to a few cars under hard use. I'd wrap the hydraulic lines in heat shield and see if that works. This is assuming it happens after everything is warm. I hate to run a car hard when it's cold, but if it doesn't do it cold, that's a good indicator that you have this problem.
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 ![]() |
I'm guessing you could be boiling the fluid in the clutch lines. I've seen it on the dyno, and it's happened to a few cars under hard use. I'd wrap the hydraulic lines in heat shield and see if that works. This is assuming it happens after everything is warm. I hate to run a car hard when it's cold, but if it doesn't do it cold, that's a good indicator that you have this problem. Nah, it was fine at the track. Started when I got home, does it street driving. let out on the clutch leaving a light and right before the clutch finishes engaging it slips then you let out the pedal and it bites. Shift to second clutch pedal is hard....weird. Wont do it all the time. |
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
Nah, it was fine at the track. Started when I got home, does it street driving. let out on the clutch leaving a light and right before the clutch finishes engaging it slips then you let out the pedal and it bites. Shift to second clutch pedal is hard....weird. Wont do it all the time. Sounds like you busted something - a chunk of friction material coming loose might be the problem. I'd put a real GM LS6 clutch in it - check pricing from Team Chev with free shipping. I've got a NIB C5 TOB for sale, dunno if it fits the Fbod. |
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 ![]() |
Alan I am looking at c5 z06 clutches, f body tobs are specific.
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 329 Joined: 4-January 08 From: Central PA Member No.: 2,065 ![]() |
I have a C5 Z06 clutch in my car, and have issues with it above 6,000 - Just my $.02. After doing a high RPM run, I never know where the engagement point will be, or how the pedal is going to feel. It's annoying, to say the least.
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 ![]() |
Eskimo, I shift my car around 5800 ish (5400 ish by the tach), I also have a Tick master cylinder in the car.
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 384 Joined: 4-February 04 From: Birmingham, AL Member No.: 176 ![]() |
I've been using a Centerforce Dual Friction, Fidanza Flywheel (aluminum), GM slave and Tick master. Been very happy with it. Remote bleeder is a good idea.
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 ![]() |
I bought an autozone assembly tonight, this is a new clutch made by LUK with flywheel for $299, looks identical to a Z06 clutch.
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 86 Joined: 25-July 09 Member No.: 5,744 ![]() |
whatever you do just don't buy anything clutch related from advance auto
(IMG:http://i55.tinypic.com/2uhwmfr.jpg) 5k very easy miles and boom |
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newbie Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 11-October 10 Member No.: 23,028 ![]() |
whatever you do just don't buy anything clutch related from advance auto (IMG:http://i55.tinypic.com/2uhwmfr.jpg) 5k very easy miles and boom We had one from NAPA do the same thing in our CMC car. Acted like the clutch was not bled, but it was actually the friction material sitting loose jamming everything. We put a RAM in and have had no problems since. |
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 ![]() |
Differences between Ac Delco and gm slave cylinders? I was told by 2 places that gm and quality slaves are made by a company called Ap. Any input on this?
I called the local Ac Delco parts dealer and asked them to pull one off the shelf and eyeball it, Ac Delco part #386433, and got him to eyeball it and it had the ap logo cast in it. This post has been edited by FASTFATBOY: Jun 8 2011, 07:42 PM |
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
Differences between Ac Delco and gm slave cylinders? I was told by 2 places that gm and quality slaves are made by a company called Ap. Any input on this? I called the local Ac Delco parts dealer and asked them to pull one off the shelf and eyeball it, Ac Delco part #386433, and got him to eyeball it and it had the ap logo cast in it. ACDelco is a GM brand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delco_Electronics The C5 slave cylinder also has AP cast on it. I've always associated AP with british made brake parts, from my Triumph MC days, so I thought odd to see AP on that part. |
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 ![]() |
Update, I got an Autozone clutch kit complete with flywheel, tob, alignment tool. It's made by LUK. It is identical in appearance to the 2002 factory clutch I pulled out of the car (z06 unit).
Same exact markings by same maker, LUK. Got slave from Car Quest, an ap unit. Cost on clutch kit was $295, slave hydraulics $89. Drives like a dream now. This post has been edited by FASTFATBOY: Jun 15 2011, 01:20 PM |
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 136 Joined: 4-September 10 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 20,108 ![]() |
pretty sure the ZO6 PP was the standard replacement for all of them now.
IMO it is still not enough af a PP for the LS concentric slave set up. |
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