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post Jun 25 2004, 10:02 PM
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What would you all think is a reasonable amount to pay for having your tires filled with Nitrogen? And how much would you pay to have a air tank filled with nitrogen so you can adjust your pressures?

The reason I'm asking is because I'm thinking about starting a business (gotta find a way to make money somehow) that could fill tires and air tanks on site at events. The capital investment may prove to be too expensive, I'm not sure how much IR's new Nitrogen generator is going to cost yet. Plus would probably need to buy a truck & car trailer.... I'd put the generator, ar compressor and nitrogen system in the bed of the pickup.

So i'd like to know what is reasonable to charge for such a luxury to determine my breakeven point. If I could break even within 5 years or so it'd probably be a good investment.
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post Jun 25 2004, 10:34 PM
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I don't know ... you know how fickle racers are ... why pay for something that is free, right?

Having said that, I am very glad I made the transition to nitrogen. The tires don't change as much between runs and don't grow as much overall.

It's also a LOT easier on the tire and rim. Using it for running a gun is easier on the gun and hose, also.

If I needed nitrogen, a few dollars for a bleed and fill would be about it, I'm afraid. A 250 cubic feet bottle can be refilled for $10 ... $15 at the most.
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post Jun 26 2004, 12:06 AM
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Question about Nitrogen??

Do you just deflat the tires than refill with nitrogen? Or do you vacuum out the remaining air after deflating, then fill it with nitrogen?
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post Jun 26 2004, 01:00 AM
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I deflated and reinflated 3 times. It purged the vast majority of it out ...
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post Jun 26 2004, 01:34 AM
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You may have noticed some racing wheels with 2 valves/wheel. That is for purging the air by adding nitrogen. Similar to what Mitch did, but much quicker. You still won’t get out ALL of the air.

I would suggest that you simply mount your tires in a nitrogen filled room. Quickly.

To address your question, 35th Anniversary AS Camaro SS, you may need to pay certain tracks a vendor or concessionaires fee to sell on their property. I think that if most racers would use water-free air like some use water-free nitrogen, there would be less need for nitrogen. I had used nitrogen years ago, but after I started to focus on minimizing the moisture content of the air I put in my tires, I found air satisfactory.
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post Jun 26 2004, 01:56 AM
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OK.... stupid question.... could you just run inner tubes? That could get rid of 100% of the air. I'm not sure what it would do to handling and such though. I know some tires are supposed to be ran with tubes... My ET Drags air down in no time flat. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jun 26 2004, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 25 2004, 07:56 PM)
OK.... stupid question.... could you just run inner tubes? That could get rid of 100% of the air. I'm not sure what it would do to handling and such though. I know some tires are supposed to be ran with tubes... My ET Drags air down in no time flat. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

thats because you are using clements air compressor.
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post Jun 26 2004, 03:13 AM
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QUOTE (MORA @ Jun 25 2004, 08:22 PM)
thats because you are using clements air compressor.

Clement uses my compressor. I could use your compresser, but the air would be to lazy to fill the tire and would probably go across the street to my neighbor's place to make twenty-five cents per hour.
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post Jun 26 2004, 03:34 AM
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QUOTE (lateapex @ Jun 25 2004, 07:34 PM)
I would suggest that you simply mount your tires in a nitrogen filled room. Quickly.

How about a room filled with 80% nitrogen ... could I stay longer?

Ya Hu ... you crack me up ....
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post Jun 26 2004, 04:03 AM
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QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 25 2004, 08:56 PM)
OK.... stupid question.... could you just run inner tubes?

Inner tubes leat to heat build up, which leads to potentially unsafe tire temps. Meaning, your risk or tire failure increases. I'd avoid that at all costs.
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