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 Jul 27 2004, 04:33 AM
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newbie Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 27-July 04 Member No.: 419  |
Hi I am andy, and I am from Clover Va. and yes it is as small as it sounds. I am a litte intrested in road and autocross races. This is the only F-body site dedicated to such racing I have found so I joined. I have a green 95 3.4L v6 firebird. Yes, yes, I know V6 and all that other V8 BS but is it a fun and CHEAP car. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It is mostly stock at the moment with only a cold air intake and 245/50/16 BFG KDWS's all around. I am expecting to run into a good amount of money in the comming year and I plan to put a good amount of that into the car and go have some fun at the tracks. :drive:
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Jul 27 2004, 04:42 AM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin  Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
Andrew,
Welcome aboard. I can tell you've been to some of the other sites. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) You do not have to defend a V6 here. They are great cars that do many things very well. There is one V6 on this board that was running a blower and making great HP, though I think the owner is about to do an LS1 swap (as I remember). Many of our members have owned and raced V6 cars and had a great time doing so. I'm sure you'll find lots of the information for which you are searching. So, relax about having a 6 cylinder. This is one place where you won't hear "sell it and buy a V8, then come see us". I think there are more than a few V6 cars around here. Still not a "bunch" of them, but a few. And, the new V6's are as fast as our beloved IROC's and such of days gone by. You can have a great amount of fun with them and we'll be happy to help any way we can. We're glad you stopped in. :drive: |
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Jul 27 2004, 05:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,226 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Danville, CA, USA Member No.: 27 |
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Jul 27 2004, 05:26 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 440 Joined: 25-December 03 From: Newport Beach, California Member No.: 41 |
welcome aboard..
yah.. v6 is no big deal.. i'll drive/race anything... seat time is seat time.. allthough i don't really appreciate the implication that third gens are slow!... hehe.. |
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Jul 27 2004, 05:41 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 715 Joined: 29-May 04 From: Cincinnati, Ohio Member No.: 352 |
welcome man
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Jul 27 2004, 11:38 AM
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4 |
Don't discount the ole V6 ... get the car really light and the V6 will soooprise some folks.
Welcome to the site. |
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Jul 27 2004, 11:57 AM
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Really Old Corner Carver Group: Advanced Member Posts: 1,209 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Atlanta Ga Member No.: 21 |
Glad you made it. Hope you can come down for our SE Divisional autocross toward the end of August (28-29th) in Norfolk at the Little Creek Amphibious Base. Nicew big flat piece of concrete. Great way to chew up tires. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Jul 27 2004, 12:27 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 545 Joined: 6-January 04 From: Germantown, MD USA Member No.: 99 |
Welcome aboard.
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Jul 27 2004, 12:40 PM
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Apex? What apex? Group: Advanced Members Posts: 245 Joined: 7-January 04 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 106 |
Welcome abord!
As for the V6, one of the better handling f-cars I know, is a v6 car. Less weight up front really helps. |
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Jul 27 2004, 12:43 PM
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Benched Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 535 Joined: 16-March 04 From: Northern California Member No.: 273 |
Hey Andrew,I had a v6 also.Was the first car I took out to the road coarse. Oh I had my share of showing GTs and others cars that they are not to be underrated (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .When you can drive one good you can have alot of fun and keep up.
If I was you I would prob. take up Steve Brueck on that offer and get your feet wet in the sport. Or check and see what NASA is doing in your area for some open track(HPDE).BEWARE this is very addicting. Oh I can (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) when I stop breathing !! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif) Josh he said "fast as" (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) Tony |
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Jul 27 2004, 12:53 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (prockbp @ Jul 27 2004, 12:26 AM) allthough i don't really appreciate the implication that third gens are slow!... hehe.. I loved my '89 Formula, 305 tbi. That car is like an old friend and I've got a spot in my garage for another one. However, my 2000 VW GTI VR6 ran a better 1/4 mile time stock than my Formula ever ran (cam, exhaust, gears, 5 speed swap, etc). I wouldn't trade those cars for the world. Anybody know where I can find one like Glenns? :drive: |
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Jul 27 2004, 12:55 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 50 Joined: 19-July 04 From: Kitchener/Waterloo Member No.: 412 |
My name is Andrew too! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif) Welcome!
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Jul 27 2004, 01:01 PM
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Apex? What apex? Group: Advanced Members Posts: 245 Joined: 7-January 04 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 106 |
Kevin,
What did you car run. I ran 15.0 @ 91 with the stock cam, intake, heads, and exaust. with the cam/intake i'm darn near the 13 second mark. not too shabby for a 305TBI car. shoot low 14's is LT1 territory isn't it. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Jul 27 2004, 01:17 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
As a 3.42 geared automatic, it ran 16.30's @ 86, as a 3.23 geared 5 speed, it ran 15.49 @ 93.8. I had installed a stock 350 TPI cam in it, and a Dynomax CVX exhaust kit with no cat and a K&N and a Hypertech stage 2 with a 160 thermostat (chip was in it when I bought it), Underdrive pulleys, 1LE driveshaft, eibach pro kit, KYB rear shocks, Monroe fronts (college, I was poor....actually, things haven't changed much (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ). I was at 500 feet altitude (Mason Dixon dragway in Hagerstown, MD). I suspect it should have been faster than it was....but it wasn't.
I put a full cage in it, a 22 gallon cell, braided lines, Griffin radiator, ST 36/25 (I think) bars, Ground control kit with 1000 in lb front and 225 in lb rears and built a splayed main cap, solid roller, 353 chevy for it, Harwood hood, Baer brakes, etc. Then, as I was nearly done, I sold the whole thing? (really dumb move). So, it would have been faster at the end. That motor is in a friends 92 TPI car with 3.73's and a T56 and it will spin the tires in 2nd gear from a roll without being floored. It's great fun! I only ran 14.04 @ 102.5 in my 2002 Z (1.09 light, 2.6 60 foot and a 14.04@102.5). I babied it (I hadn't mailed the first payment yet). That was at National trails in Kirkersville OH (Home of the pontiac excitement nationals) at SLP day in 2002. Of course, that was my first and only pass in this car and it was a really easy pass.... Oh, and the GTI went 15.10@94.8. |
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Jul 27 2004, 01:25 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,289 Joined: 4-May 04 From: Kenvil, NJ Member No.: 331 |
V-6... just remember a v-6 4th gen can still hold it's own against a huge portion of v8 3rd gens!! At the last autocross traction was a huge issue so keeping the tail end in a straight line was a challenge.
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Jul 27 2004, 01:35 PM
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Seeking round tuits Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,522 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Kentucky Member No.: 33 |
My 96 V6 was a blast. Sometimes I wish I still had it as a daily driver.
For autocross, you would be better off removing that CAI and running in G-Stock, where upgraded shocks, front swaybar, and catback exhaust are legal but V8s aren't (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) The intake will bump you to E Street Prepared along with the V8s. OTOH, good shocks and a swaybar will make a HUGE improvement in the handling of a V6 car, especially the older ones with really soft springs like you've got. You'll be amazed by how fast your car can be once you get some practice. Where you WILL hear "just sell it and buy a V8" is if you start thinking about swapping in a V8 or installing a blower. This NEVER makes economic sense, so unless you have a sentimental attachment or just enjoy the challenge (not knocking that either) "trade up" is good advice. However, you can have a ton of fun in the V6 as long as you don't start pouring money into it. In other words, nobody will look down on you for having fun in a V6. We may offer advice on alternatives if you start thinking about spending more than the cost of a V8 to upgrade it, but it isn't intended as a slam. |
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Jul 27 2004, 01:37 PM
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North of the border Group: Admin Posts: 2,307 Joined: 4-February 04 From: Montreal, CANADA Member No.: 177 |
looks like a welcome party... where's the (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Jul 27 2004, 01:47 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Jul 27 2004, 08:37 AM) looks like a welcome party... where's the (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) You're in Canada, I guess you get to bring it. (I've been drinking Molson XXX lately, the version they send to the "States"....they may be different, it's the first Molson product I've liked in a while). So, you're in charge!!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif) |
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Jul 27 2004, 01:54 PM
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Apex? What apex? Group: Advanced Members Posts: 245 Joined: 7-January 04 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 106 |
Wow, and the thread changes direction again....
Forget buying beer, I prefer to brew my own. :-D (my friends call it 'Dew Brew') |
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Jul 27 2004, 02:10 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (Dewey316 @ Jul 27 2004, 08:54 AM) Wow, and the thread changes direction again.... They seem to do that around here....(and it is probably my fault). We now return you to your regularly scheduled posting..... |
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