 'Splain this to me--Daytona Qual 1 week in advance |
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 Feb 12 2006, 07:05 PM
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Experienced Member  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,042 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Hanover, PA Member No.: 36  |
Every other race in the season has qual a day or two before. Why a week early?
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Feb 12 2006, 09:14 PM
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Because the 800# gorilla wants to have a reason for the 300 pre-race programs that monopolize the schedule on the NAS, er, SPEED channel. Also, its a way to try and stay visible during the Winter Olympics. It's all about sports marketing- as usual. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rant.gif)
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Feb 12 2006, 09:39 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,511 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Homer Glen, IL Member No.: 540 |
QUOTE (jensend @ Feb 12 2006, 16:14) Because the 800# gorilla wants to have a reason for the 300 pre-race programs that monopolize the schedule on the NAS, er, SPEED channel. Also, its a way to try and stay visible during the Winter Olympics. It's all about sports marketing- as usual. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rant.gif) It has nothing to do with that. They've been doing it this way for 20+ years before NASCAR was the new American past-time, or at least the new bandwagon. They've just started live televising every practice, qual, race since it got big. You used to have to wait until non-peak times or an ESPN re-cap just like you have to wait for everything else now. As far as why it's two weeks long, one reason is to have a take a vacation and party, my godfather has been doing it since '80. The other is that it's the biggest race of the season. Don't the other sports channels do the same for the Super Bowl? Yep. |
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Feb 12 2006, 09:44 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,640 Joined: 25-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 40 |
(IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I didn't even know the olympics were taking place until they interrupted coverage of qualifying. I'm watching the Bud Shootout right now...Go #8.
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Feb 12 2006, 10:03 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Feb 12 2006, 16:44) I'm watching the Bus Shootout right now...Go #8. Is that like figure 8 bus racing? |
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Feb 12 2006, 10:05 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,640 Joined: 25-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 40 |
Damn my typing.
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Feb 12 2006, 10:27 PM
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 |
Go #24 & #48! Yes, it's been like that for years, nothing new. Uh-oh, as I type, #24's tire is smoking......caution's out! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Feb 12 2006, 10:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 997 Joined: 28-June 05 From: North Dallas, TX Member No.: 791 |
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Feb 12 2006, 16:27) Uh-oh, as I type, #24's tire is smoking......caution's out! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Push that whine baby behind the wall! |
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Feb 12 2006, 10:31 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,640 Joined: 25-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 40 |
Just as I'm about to comment on how brave the guys in the pits are to put body parts under a car supported by a jack.... McMurray's jack bleeds down and puts the car on asphalt during a tire change. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Feb 12 2006, 11:01 PM
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 |
QUOTE (AndyJ @ Feb 12 2006, 17:30) Push that whine baby behind the wall! I didn't hear Gordon doing any whining, but I did hear Carl Edwards doing plenty! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Feb 13 2006, 04:24 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,086 Joined: 16-January 04 From: Chandler AZ Member No.: 130 |
I'm sure somebody(ies) are looking for Kyle Busch right about now... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif)
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Feb 13 2006, 12:14 PM
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 |
Did you hear Stewart's comments after the race? Something to the effect of:
~Somebody's going to get killed again out there with this kind of racing. I hope I'm not around when it happens.~ |
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Feb 13 2006, 12:40 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,640 Joined: 25-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 40 |
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Feb 13 2006, 08:14) Did you hear Stewart's comments after the race? Something to the effect of: ~Somebody's going to get killed again out there with this kind of racing. I hope I'm not around when it happens.~ Yeah. He was pretty much trying to be as negativeas he could be about restrictor plate races without getting a call to the NASCAR trailer. |
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Feb 13 2006, 12:45 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,042 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Hanover, PA Member No.: 36 |
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Feb 13 2006, 08:14) Did you hear Stewart's comments after the race? Something to the effect of: ~Somebody's going to get killed again out there with this kind of racing. I hope I'm not around when it happens.~ What is it they don't like about the Super Speedway races other than the super speeds? What is the typical top speed they feel is still within their comfort zone? Sorry, I don't follow this stuff at all. steve |
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Feb 13 2006, 12:51 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,640 Joined: 25-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 40 |
Restrictor plates and aero rules make the cars very dependent on drafting in order to pass. As a result the car are one on top of each other at all times and 2-3 rows wide. Factor in all the place swapping and blocking and you have recipe for big nasty wrecks that cannot be avoided.
The racing sucks and most drivers HATE restrictor plate races. Atlanta is much more fun to watch and about the same speed if not faster IIRC. |
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Feb 13 2006, 01:28 PM
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 |
QUOTE (steve-d @ Feb 13 2006, 07:45) What is it they don't like about the Super Speedway races other than the super speeds? What is the typical top speed they feel is still within their comfort zone? Sorry, I don't follow this stuff at all. Thety are actually faster at tracks like Atlanta/California (smaller speedway) without restrictor plates where they have about 850+ HP (~195-205mph), but they spread out more b/c of the handling differences and HP. At Daytona, you don't have power to pass (~450hp), you have to draft. They don't complain about the speed, it's the speed and the fact that the whole pack is seperated by about 2 seconds and they are all nose-to-tail. |
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Feb 13 2006, 03:40 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Member Posts: 440 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Nashville, TN Member No.: 1 |
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Feb 13 2006, 06:14) Did you hear Stewart's comments after the race? Something to the effect of: ~Somebody's going to get killed again out there with this kind of racing. I hope I'm not around when it happens.~ Yeah and its probably going to be Kyle Busch or Jimmie Johnson if they don't calm down out there. <----for #8 |
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Feb 14 2006, 09:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 340 Joined: 6-February 04 From: Stockton, California Member No.: 181 |
Yeh Kyle Bush was all over the place. Its funny because the pace car(Z06) has more power than the race cars
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Feb 15 2006, 10:11 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,511 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Homer Glen, IL Member No.: 540 |
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Feb 13 2006, 08:28) They don't complain about the speed... They complain about the fact that they're bunched up but they're also scared of the 235+ mph that they'd see without the plate. I can't remember if it was last year or the year before, but Rusty did a test at either Daytona or Talledega without the plate and said it was right on the ragged edge all the time and it wouldn't take much to set the car off. It's a no-win with the current mind set unless you dirty the aero up really bad... like making them into trucks. One idea I had last year was to put them on a much smaller tire. Pretty much like the difference between (dirt) modifieds and late models. It doesn't matter how much power you make if you can't put it to the ground. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) |
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Feb 16 2006, 01:01 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,640 Joined: 25-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 40 |
QUOTE (nape @ Feb 15 2006, 18:11) One idea I had last year was to put them on a much smaller tire. Pretty much like the difference between (dirt) modifieds and late models. It doesn't matter how much power you make if you can't put it to the ground. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) NASCAR considered that a couple years ago, but I can't remember why it wouldn't work. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I think it would be a great idea to just run narrower tires though. I think they could run either unrestricted or with a larger restrictor that way and we'd have racing again. |
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