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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 ![]() |
I read somewhere that the Hawker battery can't handle too much heat? Has anybody had problems with battery temperatures when road racing or open tracking? Taking another 17 lbs off the front in addition to the glass hood, gutting, etc would be nice.
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No El-Use-O. ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,368 Joined: 27-December 03 From: SW Michigan Member No.: 52 ![]() |
I have heard mixed reviews.
But I've NEVER heard as many complaints about stock batteries. I may someday get an Oddeysey. Even if they are more money, they have a warranty. 3 years last I checked. I would just move it to the back. Sure you add weight in a box/cables, but you remove weight from the nose, and add it to the rear and passenger sides. All pluses. I may at some point add a light battery to the current rear location. Sorry I wasn't more help. |
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,947 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Everett, WA Member No.: 16 ![]() |
My last track event was in the 90's, track temps were over 130 and my oil temps got over 310.
The Hawker worked just fine. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 ![]() |
Jon A--
How long have you been running that battery for? How good is it after storage or in the winter? My car is driven very little in between tracke events, and rarely in the winter. Thanks, Dennis |
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Insert catch phrase here ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,098 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Michigan Member No.: 20 ![]() |
If you run the Hawker, put it in the stock location like Jon did. I put mine where the passenger seat used to be, and it was very marginal in being able to start the car. I eventually sold it to someone else who was going to run it in the stock location.
I do also have a master kill switch on the driver's side a-pillar, so the length of cable is longer than if you don't have this, but a stock battery has no problems with this. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,226 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Danville, CA, USA Member No.: 27 ![]() |
QUOTE (94bird @ Aug 8 2004, 11:17 AM) If you run the Hawker, put it in the stock location like Jon did. I put mine where the passenger seat used to be, and it was very marginal in being able to start the car. I eventually sold it to someone else who was going to run it in the stock location. I do also have a master kill switch on the driver's side a-pillar, so the length of cable is longer than if you don't have this, but a stock battery has no problems with this. Yeah...like Mike, I have seen people with the Hawker have problems when remote mounting it in the trunk and running long lines...I would not use one for that kind of set up.... |
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,947 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Everett, WA Member No.: 16 ![]() |
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Aug 8 2004, 09:41 AM) How long have you been running that battery for? How good is it after storage or in the winter? My car is driven very little in between tracke events, and rarely in the winter. I've been running it since the date on this pic: (IMG:http://www.jonaadland.com/NewPics2/HawkerMount.jpg) Daily driven. It has worked fine, even in the winter. The longest I've gone without driving the car is a little over a week. |
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 ![]() |
Thanks for the picture! I think I will mount it up front like you did and fab up some type of bracket/mount like you also. One more question...Is yours a real Hawker?--See the link below:
http://www.stealth316.com/2-dynabatt.htm#g16ep |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 902 Joined: 27-January 04 From: Magnolia, Tx. Member No.: 160 ![]() |
I wouldn't worry about the temps with those batteries. Hell, I've seen LOTs of people have battery issues with too much heat. Its usually when we're coming off the track during the summer, stop do weigh the cars in tech, then try to refire them. There's always a couple of cars that can't start on their own. So, do the Hawker.
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,947 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Everett, WA Member No.: 16 ![]() |
Yup, mine's a Hawker. I got it at Battery Mart, IIRC.
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newbie Group: Advanced Members Posts: 29 Joined: 5-February 04 From: Lakewood CA Member No.: 180 ![]() |
I have had mine, for about 3 yrs now . I use it daily. I have in on the floor behind the passenger seat. . it did get low once when I had the car apart for a month . it turned over slowly and has been fine ever since. I run a short 12" ground to the old rear seat bracket, and the positive thru the firewall and connected to the stock wire up front. I used 1 OT for everything. except for the one time its been a great battery.
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 297 Joined: 14-February 04 Member No.: 203 ![]() |
I am going to be needing a new battery. I have no problem with putting it in the stock location and I'm all for less weight. I've never heard of the Hawker batteries. Which one do i need("96 LT1,383) and where do i get it?
Thanks Steve |
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Insert catch phrase here ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,098 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Michigan Member No.: 20 ![]() |
Steve, go to Dennis' link a few posts above. That's the battery you need - Hawker G16EP. I got mine from Portable Power Systems, as advertised on that page. Very good customer service.
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 452 Joined: 12-January 04 From: Charleston, SC Member No.: 121 ![]() |
JonA, where do I get a bracket like that? Is this one of your custom fab jobs or something I could pick up somewhere?
thanks |
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,947 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Everett, WA Member No.: 16 ![]() |
Some aluminum angle and a chopsaw.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 ![]() |
QUOTE (Jon A @ Aug 10 2004, 10:55 PM) Some aluminum angle and a chopsaw.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Aluminum angle, chopsaw, grinder, and file have been one of my best friends over the last year or so. |
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,289 Joined: 4-May 04 From: Kenvil, NJ Member No.: 331 ![]() |
I was looking at the battery tender website to see which one is compatable with these Hawker batteries like the stealth site says. That's when I stumbled across this
http://batterytender.com/notice_odyssey.php It looks like most of you using this battery are fairly happy with it, but battery tender's thoughts wave a flag!! |
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 ![]() |
Thanks for the info! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif) I've had my hawker in since about February, driven a few hundred street miles, and have 3 track days with zero problems so far. I've yet had the need to put a charger on it.
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Rennmeister ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 781 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Mehlingen, Germany Member No.: 26 ![]() |
Earlier Hawker (in the 90'S) batteries with AGM recombient technology had a slight problem with thermal overload, but that has been addressed in the later designs.
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Veteran Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,511 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Homer Glen, IL Member No.: 540 ![]() |
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ May 18 2005, 21:18) Thanks for the info! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif) I've had my hawker in since about February, driven a few hundred street miles, and have 3 track days with zero problems so far. I've yet had the need to put a charger on it. I had to charge mine after a bonehead move before I took the dome light out (doors open all night in the garage...). Anyway, I hooked it up to our old Sears trickle charger and it came right up. It holds a charge for a long time too. Granted, I don't have anything drawing while it's parked (no radio, etc) but i went out 2 months after I installed the battery and the car popped right over. I'm happy so far. |
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