 Axle upgrade package - axles, studs, nuts, Yukon/ARP/Dorman |
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 Oct 16 2006, 06:44 PM
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I build race cars  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874  |
I've put together an upgrade package for the 3rd/4th gen Fbods - 3rd gens especially will break axles under the stress of RR duty, and I've cracked a 4thgen axle. Dragstrip use with slicks will break them, too.
These axles are direct replacement, use OEM wheel bearing and seals (not included) and fit any of the popular diffs (also not included). Package includes: 1 Pair Yukon Replacement Series axles for 93-02 4th gen non TC cars or TCS cars 10 ARP 100-7708 2.5" long wheel studs, pressed in place 10 Dorman short, open bulge lugnuts with 19mm (same as 3/4") hex Cost is (call, prices vary with application) plus shipping plus CA sales tax on orders shipped to CA address. for the front, extra set of 10 ARP studs $32 for the front, extra set of 10 Dorman lugnuts $16 Extra long 3.25" ARP 100-7713 studs are available, set of 10 $72 questions/comments PM me or email me at ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com or call me at 831 427-3296 evenings PST Regards, Alan Blaine Blaine Fabrication edit: Superior raised prices by $10 per axle, so I had to raise the package price from $185 to $205 edit: another price increase, to $215 for the package edit: added pics of my cracked OEM axle - I found this after a rather spirited session at Sears Point. Glad it didn't let go there! The crack goes all the way around and thru the hub flange, and has started to twist off. edit: the yearly price increase happened: new price for the package is $231 + changed to Dorman nuts edit: price increase to $350 edit: price drop to $295 edit: revise pricing on ARP/Dorman edit: change to Yukon, revise pricing (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix2/IMG_1478.JPG) (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix2/IMG_1479.JPG) (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix2/IMG_1480.JPG) This post has been edited by Blainefab: Apr 27 2015, 04:50 PM |
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Oct 16 2006, 06:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,226 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Danville, CA, USA Member No.: 27 |
Alan,
Axles are on my list of TO DO's this winter. I was planning on doing the C-clip eliminator route that Al (CMC#5) did on his car earlier this year. Any likelihood you can come up with a kit to do something along those lines? |
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Oct 18 2006, 03:00 AM
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Insert catch phrase here Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,098 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Michigan Member No.: 20 |
I'm also interested in a new set of axles this winter and would like to do the C-clip eliminator too.
Getting my driveshaft now, and then plan to do the T2R and axles all at once. |
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Oct 18 2006, 01:18 PM
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4 |
Dammit alan ... yer killing me here.
Are the studs the factory stud thread and pitch? |
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Oct 18 2006, 07:06 PM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
QUOTE (mitchntx @ Oct 18 2006, 08:18 AM)  Dammit alan ... yer killing me here. Are the studs the factory stud thread and pitch? Mitch - Yes, the installed ARP studs (100-7708) are factory thread and pitch, but 2.5" long. Lugnuts are interchangeable with the fronts. For another $14 I can include 10 more lugnuts for the front, and for another $28 can include 10 more ARP studs for the front. For those that buy the axle upgrade and extra studs/nuts for the front hubs - ship me your front hubs and I'll press the studs in (straight ;-) ) for no extra labor charge, just return shipping. If you're local and walk in the door with hubs/axles (off the car, of course) and buy the ARP studs and Gorilla nuts I'll press them in N/C. On the full floater deal, I'm looking into it, but Al's estimate of $600 in parts for the whole setup looks pretty spot on, and the failures I've seen on RR cars have been of the shaft or hub outboard of the wheel bearing, not the spline end or Cclip flange. The reduction of end play on the full floater is what you would get for the big difference in cost vs just an axle upgrade. This post has been edited by Blainefab: Mar 22 2008, 08:37 PM |
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Oct 18 2006, 07:08 PM
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4 |
Did that actually stop his pad knock back issue? I know I had it BAD in my old '98
What's the final Paypal price on those axles with studs and lugs. I already have a couple packages of those same studs on the shelf. PM or e-mail me. |
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Oct 18 2006, 08:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,226 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Danville, CA, USA Member No.: 27 |
QUOTE (mitchntx @ Oct 18 2006, 02:08 PM) Did that actually stop his pad knock back issue? I know I had it BAD in my old '98 I am pretty sure he said it did...... |
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Oct 20 2006, 06:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 827 Joined: 30-December 03 From: Bellevue WA Member No.: 73 |
If the full floater comes to fruition, I would be on it.
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Oct 26 2006, 10:14 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 231 Joined: 26-December 03 From: Texas Member No.: 47 |
Cost with shipping to 76063 for 3rd gen, please.
Thanks! |
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Oct 28 2006, 07:35 AM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
QUOTE (Nick @ Oct 26 2006, 05:14 PM) Cost with shipping to 76063 for 3rd gen, please. Thanks! UPS ground shipping is $35, so total is $220, PayPal to: ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com Thank You ! Regards, Alan Blaine Blaine Fabrication 831 427-3296 |
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Nov 8 2006, 09:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 439 Joined: 14-January 04 From: Texas Member No.: 128 |
Alan:
I'm interested - 1999 Z28 Rear axles/studs/lugnuts Front studs/lugnuts Extra lugnuts I'll have to verify the stud length - I need the long ones. Thanks |
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Nov 9 2006, 02:54 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,511 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Homer Glen, IL Member No.: 540 |
QUOTE (MikeP-99Z @ Nov 8 2006, 03:34 PM) Alan: I'm interested - 1999 Z28 Rear axles/studs/lugnuts Front studs/lugnuts Extra lugnuts I'll have to verify the stud length - I need the long ones. Thanks Alan knows the number, but for an FYI, the long (but not super long) ARP studs are 7708s. Alan talked me out of the 7713 (super long) studs and I'm glad. The 7708s stick out of the factory lug nuts even with a spacer. |
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Nov 9 2006, 12:12 PM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
QUOTE (MikeP-99Z @ Nov 8 2006, 04:34 PM) Alan: I'm interested - 1999 Z28 Rear axles/studs/lugnuts Front studs/lugnuts Extra lugnuts I'll have to verify the stud length - I need the long ones. Thanks Mike - The LS1 axles are showing 2wks ARO for delivery to me, and another couple of days for me to get them down to you after pressing the studs in. I have the 2.5" long ARP studs and Gorilla nuts in stock. Here's the cost breakdown: Axle package (2 Superior axles, 10 ARP studs, 10 Gorilla lugnuts) $185 set of 10 ARP studs $27 set of 10 Gorilla lugnuts $13 extra set of 20 Gorilla lugnuts $26 subtotal $251 Ca sales tax $20.08 UPS gnd shipping to Orange, CA $25 Grand total $296.08 PayPal to: ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com Thank You! Regards, Alan Blaine Blaine Fabrication 831 427-3296 |
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Nov 9 2006, 12:25 PM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
QUOTE (nape @ Nov 8 2006, 09:54 PM) QUOTE (MikeP-99Z @ Nov 8 2006, 03:34 PM) I'll have to verify the stud length - I need the long ones. Thanks Alan knows the number, but for an FYI, the long (but not super long) ARP studs are 7708s. Alan talked me out of the 7713 (super long) studs and I'm glad. The 7708s stick out of the factory lug nuts even with a spacer. Yes - The ARP studs I stock and install in the axle package are the 7708's - they are 2.5" long which is plenty for any spacer less than 5/8" thick. Here's a pic of the 2.5" long studs with a 1/4" spacer on a GS wheel: There is .330" sticking out past the nut. (IMG:http://members.cruzio.com/~ablaine/IMG_0732.JPG) The ARP 7713 are 3.25" long - If the extra 3/4" is needed, I can get them, and press into the axles instead of the 7708's. They are about 2wks ARO, and are a lot more expensive. Your price is $30 per set of 5. Yes, almost twice as much as the 2.5" length. This post has been edited by Blainefab: May 9 2012, 07:54 AM |
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Nov 9 2006, 12:38 PM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
Here's the axle upgrade package, these are 3rd gen:
(IMG:http://www.blainefabrication.com/projects/bfpics/IMG_0858.JPG) This post has been edited by Blainefab: Nov 27 2009, 10:17 PM |
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Nov 9 2006, 09:42 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
difference between the 93-96 and 98-02 is the center hub that fits into the wheel, correct? so if i ordered the 98-02's to work w/ my 95, i could more easily use the 98-02 wheels, right?
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Nov 9 2006, 10:36 PM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Nov 9 2006, 04:42 PM) difference between the 93-96 and 98-02 is the center hub that fits into the wheel, correct? so if i ordered the 98-02's to work w/ my 95, i could more easily use the 98-02 wheels, right? Yes, wheel hub OD is smaller on the LS1 axles (Are the wheel hubs on the LS1 wheels smaller? I'm accustomed to opening up the ID of the C4 Corvette wheels to fit the LT1 axle hub but don't know if this is the case for a LS1 Fbod wheel onto LT1 axle). Axle length is same, and splines are the same. I have the Superior LT1 axles in house, they do have the flange for the TCS reluctor option. I'll call Superior and ask if there are any other differences besides the wheel hub OD. Regards, Alan Blaine Blaine Fabrication 831 427-3296 |
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Nov 10 2006, 02:22 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
yes, 98 and up f-body wheels have to be opened up to be put on an 93-97 F-body. it seems to only be true for the rear though. never seen it needed for the front.
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Nov 10 2006, 09:54 PM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Nov 9 2006, 05:36 PM) QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Nov 9 2006, 04:42 PM) difference between the 93-96 and 98-02 is the center hub that fits into the wheel, correct? so if i ordered the 98-02's to work w/ my 95, i could more easily use the 98-02 wheels, right? Yes, wheel hub OD is smaller on the LS1 axles Axle length is same, and splines are the same. I have the Superior LT1 axles in house, they do have the flange for the TCS reluctor option. I'll call Superior and ask if there are any other differences besides the wheel hub OD. Regards, Alan Blaine Blaine Fabrication 831 427-3296 Well now I'm confused - I called Superior and the guy said that the LS1 axles were 1/2" longer than LT1 (and the published specs were incorrect) but I don't believe that is true - LS1 folks would be having extreme outer fender well issues if the cars had an inch wider track than the LT1 cars. I'll measure Mike P's when they get in, will be 7-10 days. Regards, Alan Blaine Blaine Fabrication 831 427-3296 |
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Nov 12 2006, 11:29 AM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
Here is a Superior LT1 axle next to an OEM. The TCS reluctor flange puts more meat right where one of my OEM axles cracked.
(IMG:http://www.blainefabrication.com/projects/bfpics/IMG_0868.JPG) This post has been edited by Blainefab: Nov 27 2009, 10:15 PM |
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