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dailydriver
Cool to see that they are giving it a top line aftermarket braking system right off the showroom floor!! (carbon-ceramic, no less!! gr_eek2.gif )

Glad to see also that they used forged pistons and crank (hopefully overbuilt) to handle the inevitable overboosting that the 1/4 milers will attempt with smaller pullies (IF that system even allows for pulley changes), or a complete conversion to big single or twin turbos. But either way I guess we will find out just how much boost the LS3 based alloy block can take.
All of the pure, bone stock 1/4 mile record mavens (Ranger & co.) will LOVE that stock twin disc clutch, as the weak stocker holding back the launch is one of the reasons the current Z06 does not go even quicker down the drag strip.

The price is high, but is completely justified with the engine tech, liberal use of carbon fiber body panels, stronger clutch & T56 (forgot the numerical code #), and those brakes!!
It's a shame that they could not have lowered the weight to even less than the current Z06, like was being speculated.
They should also offer a 'competition gray' finish for the wheels (like the current C6's/Z06es), for those who don't go for the pimpbling chrome/polished look.
Teutonic Speedracer
You just be me to it! I was just going to post the exact same link! I like the brakes, power, CF, etc. I'm not sure if I like the clear part on the hood. It also looks like they didn't touch the seats????---For $100k they should update the seats! For RR, I'm not sure how good a supercharger is, and I'm not happy to hear of the +200 lbs. over a Z06. I think I'd rather a Z06 with some more N/A HP and those sick 15.5" front brakes! Oh, and the front splitter is welcomed!
CMC #37
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Dec 20 2007, 01:16 PM) *
You just be me to it! I was just going to post the exact same link! I like the brakes, power, CF, etc. I'm not sure if I like the clear part on the hood. It also looks like they didn't touch the seats????---For $100k they should update the seats! For RR, I'm not sure how good a supercharger is, and I'm not happy to hear of the +200 lbs. over a Z06. I think I'd rather a Z06 with some more N/A HP and those sick 15.5" front brakes! Oh, and the front splitter is welcomed!


Funny you mention it, I have complained about the seats, more specifically the lack of optional harness system like the ACR Viper has. The Scroth belts on that car stow away neatly when not in use, why can't GM do this also! After a day in Z06s instructing I get pretty beat up!
LT4Firehawk
Nice. My only real complaint will be the seats. And the pice of course, but for what you get, the price is not too unreasonable. I still think it's going to take a beating when compared to it's competitors on the interior though (Porsche 911 Turbo/GT2, Ferraris, etc).
dailydriver
QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Dec 20 2007, 01:20 PM) *
Funny you mention it, I have complained about the seats, more specifically the lack of optional harness system like the ACR Viper has. The Scroth belts on that car stow away neatly when not in use, why can't GM do this also! After a day in Z06s instructing I get pretty beat up!


Agreed.
It should have a 'club sport' option with Sparco Lights/Recaro RPGs/Racetech (or such) to save weight and hold you in better, and similar harnesses to the ACR Vipers.
Supposedly, a couple of years ago Schroth made a harness set that was BOTH FIA/SFI legal (to most org's rules), AND DOT/NHSTA legal for street use. These were FULL WIDTH competition style belts, NOT their street/autocross 2" wide 'ASM' belts.
CMC #37
QUOTE (dailydriver @ Dec 20 2007, 04:44 PM) *
QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Dec 20 2007, 01:20 PM) *
Funny you mention it, I have complained about the seats, more specifically the lack of optional harness system like the ACR Viper has. The Scroth belts on that car stow away neatly when not in use, why can't GM do this also! After a day in Z06s instructing I get pretty beat up!


Agreed.
It should have a 'club sport' option with Sparco Lights/Recaro RPGs/Racetech (or such) to save weight and hold you in better, and similar harnesses to the ACR Vipers.
Supposedly, a couple of years ago Schroth made a harness set that was BOTH FIA/SFI legal (to most org's rules), AND DOT/NHSTA legal for street use. These were FULL WIDTH competition style belts, NOT their street/autocross 2" wide 'ASM' belts.


Sweet, do these fit F-bods?
firehawkclone
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Dec 20 2007, 11:16 AM) *
You just be me to it! I was just going to post the exact same link! I like the brakes, power, CF, etc. I'm not sure if I like the clear part on the hood. It also looks like they didn't touch the seats????---For $100k they should update the seats! For RR, I'm not sure how good a supercharger is, and I'm not happy to hear of the +200 lbs. over a Z06. I think I'd rather a Z06 with some more N/A HP and those sick 15.5" front brakes! Oh, and the front splitter is welcomed!


I feel the same way Dennis about being N/A, I didn't even look at the car becuase of the SC!

Put a head and cam(and a few other bolt ons) in a T1 car and beat the crap out of that car for 1/4th the price!

Why not a turbo GM?
Mojave
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Dec 20 2007, 07:46 PM) *
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Dec 20 2007, 11:16 AM) *
You just be me to it! I was just going to post the exact same link! I like the brakes, power, CF, etc. I'm not sure if I like the clear part on the hood. It also looks like they didn't touch the seats????---For $100k they should update the seats! For RR, I'm not sure how good a supercharger is, and I'm not happy to hear of the +200 lbs. over a Z06. I think I'd rather a Z06 with some more N/A HP and those sick 15.5" front brakes! Oh, and the front splitter is welcomed!


I feel the same way Dennis about being N/A, I didn't even look at the car becuase of the SC!

Put a head and cam(and a few other bolt ons) in a T1 car and beat the crap out of that car for 1/4th the price!

Why not a turbo GM?


I think the problem with a turbo is packaging. Where do you put it? The SC is nice because it fits 'in' the intake manifold.

And for those who haven't seen, the money shot:

StanIROCZ
Wow you weren't kidding about the money shot.


How does the SC add 150 lbs? I just don't get it.

The 15" brakes will add some weight but the CF should take some off. Why do the put in such big brakes? Marketing only?

The see-through hood is cheesy retarded. To me it takes a classy, performance-driven car and then ghetto's it up. Might as well put in 2 DVD players, a fake spoiler, and some spinners. Stupid.

Did you notice the brake calipers are the same color as the car?
Teutonic Speedracer
Wow on the torque curve when compared with the Viper's 8.4L! SC the snake and watch out. Of course, not to hijack the thread, but have you guys seen this:?

BadAss LPE 1300rwhp C6

1300rwhp on race gas
1100rwhp on 93
0-200 in 18s
Mile 25s @226mph
TS (calc) - 300mph
DD with A/C, Nav, etc.
firehawkclone
QUOTE (Mojave @ Dec 20 2007, 07:59 PM) *
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Dec 20 2007, 07:46 PM) *
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Dec 20 2007, 11:16 AM) *
You just be me to it! I was just going to post the exact same link! I like the brakes, power, CF, etc. I'm not sure if I like the clear part on the hood. It also looks like they didn't touch the seats????---For $100k they should update the seats! For RR, I'm not sure how good a supercharger is, and I'm not happy to hear of the +200 lbs. over a Z06. I think I'd rather a Z06 with some more N/A HP and those sick 15.5" front brakes! Oh, and the front splitter is welcomed!


I feel the same way Dennis about being N/A, I didn't even look at the car becuase of the SC!

Put a head and cam(and a few other bolt ons) in a T1 car and beat the crap out of that car for 1/4th the price!

Why not a turbo GM?


I think the problem with a turbo is packaging. Where do you put it? The SC is nice because it fits 'in' the intake manifold.

And for those who haven't seen, the money shot:





QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Dec 20 2007, 09:49 PM) *
Wow on the torque curve when compared with the Viper's 8.4L! SC the snake and watch out. Of course, not to hijack the thread, but have you guys seen this:?

BadAss LPE 1300rwhp C6

1300rwhp on race gas
1100rwhp on 93
0-200 in 18s
Mile 25s @226mph
TS (calc) - 300mph
DD with A/C, Nav, etc.


It looks packaged just fine to me 2thumbs.gif laugh.gif
93FirehawkTA
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Dec 20 2007, 01:16 PM) *
You just be me to it! I was just going to post the exact same link! I like the brakes, power, CF, etc. I'm not sure if I like the clear part on the hood. It also looks like they didn't touch the seats????---For $100k they should update the seats! For RR, I'm not sure how good a supercharger is, and I'm not happy to hear of the +200 lbs. over a Z06. I think I'd rather a Z06 with some more N/A HP and those sick 15.5" front brakes! Oh, and the front splitter is welcomed!


I agree. Give me the lighter Z06 with the carbon brakes and new aero bits with more NA power anyday. Hopefully GM will offer those brake as an option on the Z06.
trackbird
QUOTE (93FirehawkTA @ Dec 21 2007, 08:00 AM) *
I agree. Give me the lighter Z06 with the carbon brakes and new aero bits with more NA power anyday. Hopefully GM will offer those brake as an option on the Z06.


Ok, so I remove the carpet and the stereo, toss a few things I don't need and I'm down to Z06 weight. dry.gif That torque curve looks like big fun.
00 Trans Ram
The part I didn't get was the "softer spring rate than a Z06". So, it weighs 150 more lbs and has softer springs? Am I missing something?
CrashTestDummy
QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Dec 20 2007, 10:47 PM) *
How does the SC add 150 lbs? I just don't get it.

The 15" brakes will add some weight but the CF should take some off. Why do the put in such big brakes? Marketing only?

The see-through hood is cheesy retarded. To me it takes a classy, performance-driven car and then ghetto's it up. Might as well put in 2 DVD players, a fake spoiler, and some spinners. Stupid.


Don't forget that is a SC _and_ aftercooler. That plumbing will add some weight.

Yeah, and the video screens implanted in the back of the headrests of the seats. Gotta give something for the Porsche drivers to look at besides the tail lights.

"Oh look, they're playing 'Cars'! I'll just sit back here and watch."

laugh.gif
dailydriver
QUOTE (93FirehawkTA @ Dec 21 2007, 08:00 AM) *
Give me the lighter Z06 with the carbon brakes and new aero bits with more NA power anyday. Hopefully GM will offer those brake as an option on the Z06.


Is GM definitely going to carry on with the C6 Z06 once this monster is unleashed??
It would be cool if they did turn the current Z06 into a lightweight track car with more NA power, the lighter carbon bits, great/light racing shell seats with harnesses and Penske or Moton coilovers.
A Hollinger sequential would also be cool, but then we're into the $150-$175K territory. gr_sad.gif
Teutonic Speedracer
QUOTE (trackbird @ Dec 21 2007, 10:11 AM) *
QUOTE (93FirehawkTA @ Dec 21 2007, 08:00 AM) *
I agree. Give me the lighter Z06 with the carbon brakes and new aero bits with more NA power anyday. Hopefully GM will offer those brake as an option on the Z06.


Ok, so I remove the carpet and the stereo, toss a few things I don't need and I'm down to Z06 weight. dry.gif That torque curve looks like big fun.


Or remove those same bits from a Z06 and be a real lightweight biggrin.gif
StanIROCZ
QUOTE (dailydriver @ Dec 21 2007, 02:20 PM) *
QUOTE (93FirehawkTA @ Dec 21 2007, 08:00 AM) *
Give me the lighter Z06 with the carbon brakes and new aero bits with more NA power anyday. Hopefully GM will offer those brake as an option on the Z06.


Is GM definitely going to carry on with the C6 Z06 once this monster is unleashed??
It would be cool if they did turn the current Z06 into a lightweight track car with more NA power, the lighter carbon bits, great/light racing shell seats with harnesses and Penske or Moton coilovers.
A Hollinger sequential would also be cool, but then we're into the $150-$175K territory. gr_sad.gif
[pipe dream!
trackbird
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Dec 21 2007, 03:11 PM) *
Or remove those same bits from a Z06 and be a real lightweight biggrin.gif


True, but for anything but a sanctioned class, I'll take the power and torque of the ZR1 over the same car with less power and 150 lbs less weight. I don't know that I'd feel the 150 lbs, but I know I'd feel the power differences. That's just me, there's no right or wrong answer.
slowTA
So does this mean the price for a used C5/C6 model will be dropping?
93FirehawkTA
QUOTE (trackbird @ Dec 21 2007, 04:09 PM) *
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Dec 21 2007, 03:11 PM) *
Or remove those same bits from a Z06 and be a real lightweight biggrin.gif


True, but for anything but a sanctioned class, I'll take the power and torque of the ZR1 over the same car with less power and 150 lbs less weight. I don't know that I'd feel the 150 lbs, but I know I'd feel the power differences. That's just me, there's no right or wrong answer.


So how are those Torque Addicts Anonymous meetings going? tongue.gif
roy
Alittle read that was posted on our webboard from one of the GM engineers that frequent there. zr1 motor
dailydriver
QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Dec 21 2007, 04:00 PM) *
QUOTE (dailydriver @ Dec 21 2007, 02:20 PM) *
QUOTE (93FirehawkTA @ Dec 21 2007, 08:00 AM) *
Give me the lighter Z06 with the carbon brakes and new aero bits with more NA power anyday. Hopefully GM will offer those brake as an option on the Z06.


Is GM definitely going to carry on with the C6 Z06 once this monster is unleashed??
It would be cool if they did turn the current Z06 into a lightweight track car with more NA power, the lighter carbon bits, great/light racing shell seats with harnesses and Penske or Moton coilovers.
A Hollinger sequential would also be cool, but then we're into the $150-$175K territory. gr_sad.gif
[pipe dream!


Of course it is, but since I'll probably NEVER be able to afford (short of being a solitary Mega Lottery winner) even a used stock C6 Z06 I might as well 'pipe dream' BIG, right?!
Crazy Canuck
wonder how much those trannies are gonna go for ?
better be good and add that to Santa's list if he deems me not naughty... although I can't afford the toy.
roy
QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Dec 23 2007, 11:56 PM) *
wonder how much those trannies are gonna go for ?
better be good and add that to Santa's list if he deems me not naughty... although I can't afford the toy.

And the motor as a crate engine ?
ws6transam
My gosh,

That dyno chart makes 424 HP look just feeble, weak, and lame!

I'm feeling so inadequate now....

I wish there was a pill for that!
gr_sad.gif
trackbird
QUOTE (ws6transam @ Dec 24 2007, 10:20 PM) *
I'm feeling so inadequate now....

I wish there was a pill for that!
gr_sad.gif



There is (some call them pills, some call them jets, whatever, it will fix your problem wink.gif )

http://www.nitrousdirect.com/nitrous/image...9&image_id=
Crazy Canuck
trust me it's addictive those pills and want to increase the dosage all the time
it's expensive pills to be on.
00 Trans Ram
QUOTE (roy @ Dec 21 2007, 11:12 PM) *
Alittle read that was posted on our webboard from one of the GM engineers that frequent there. zr1 motor



My favorite 2 lines from that article - "smooth driveability at low speeds" & "320 lb.-ft. of torque at only 1,000 rpm". You do realize that this thing has as much power at normal "let-the-clutch-out-revs" as the average, stock LS1 does at redline? How is this car going to take off smoothly at redlights.

I can see it now - "But, Officer, my foot wasn't even on the gas. It's the idle, I promise!"
CMC #37
QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Dec 27 2007, 04:06 PM) *
QUOTE (roy @ Dec 21 2007, 11:12 PM) *
Alittle read that was posted on our webboard from one of the GM engineers that frequent there. zr1 motor



My favorite 2 lines from that article - "smooth driveability at low speeds" & "320 lb.-ft. of torque at only 1,000 rpm". You do realize that this thing has as much power at normal "let-the-clutch-out-revs" as the average, stock LS1 does at redline? How is this car going to take off smoothly at redlights.

I can see it now - "But, Officer, my foot wasn't even on the gas. It's the idle, I promise!"


That's a legit concern, the Vipers are easy to get out of hand that way from what folks say.
Crazy Canuck
Crazy Canuck
QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Dec 27 2007, 04:06 PM) *
QUOTE (roy @ Dec 21 2007, 11:12 PM) *
Alittle read that was posted on our webboard from one of the GM engineers that frequent there. zr1 motor



My favorite 2 lines from that article - "smooth driveability at low speeds" & "320 lb.-ft. of torque at only 1,000 rpm". You do realize that this thing has as much power at normal "let-the-clutch-out-revs" as the average, stock LS1 does at redline? How is this car going to take off smoothly at redlights.

I can see it now - "But, Officer, my foot wasn't even on the gas. It's the idle, I promise!"

one gets used to the power... and learns to feather every input and respect the beast.
That means... drive w/ r-compounds on the street... lol
would like to see that car with some boost increase... insane wink.gif
Stang Killer
QUOTE (slowTA @ Dec 21 2007, 05:32 PM) *
So does this mean the price for a used C5/C6 model will be dropping?

If you shop you can get a C6Z06 in the high 50's. Prices are falling hard, you just have to shop at the dealerships that are known for selling vette's.
BigEnos
QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Dec 27 2007, 04:06 PM) *
QUOTE (roy @ Dec 21 2007, 11:12 PM) *
Alittle read that was posted on our webboard from one of the GM engineers that frequent there. zr1 motor



My favorite 2 lines from that article - "smooth driveability at low speeds" & "320 lb.-ft. of torque at only 1,000 rpm". You do realize that this thing has as much power at normal "let-the-clutch-out-revs" as the average, stock LS1 does at redline? How is this car going to take off smoothly at redlights.

I can see it now - "But, Officer, my foot wasn't even on the gas. It's the idle, I promise!"


320lb-ft at 1000rpm...at full throttle.

If you aren't flooring it, there won't be so much power trying to make its way to the rear wheels.
trackbird
QUOTE (BigEnos @ Dec 28 2007, 09:32 AM) *
320lb-ft at 1000rpm...at full throttle.

If you aren't flooring it, there won't be so much power trying to make its way to the rear wheels.



So, like he said, you'll be dealing with 320 foot lbs. dry.gif

Not flooring it....hahahahahahahahaha.....hahahahahahahahaha..... That's a good one Brian.

blink.gif
BigEnos
QUOTE (trackbird @ Dec 28 2007, 10:13 AM) *
QUOTE (BigEnos @ Dec 28 2007, 09:32 AM) *
320lb-ft at 1000rpm...at full throttle.

If you aren't flooring it, there won't be so much power trying to make its way to the rear wheels.



So, like he said, you'll be dealing with 320 foot lbs. dry.gif

Not flooring it....hahahahahahahahaha.....hahahahahahahahaha..... That's a good one Brian.

blink.gif



I see not much has changed since I saw you autocross last... nutkick.gif blink.gif whip.gif
trackbird
I started to add that "you've seen me drive". wink.gif
dailydriver
QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Dec 27 2007, 06:35 PM) *


That will be cool if the production ones come through with the Corvette Racing 'skully' embossed on the intake/filter lid like in that pic! cool2.gif
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