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Time has come again! The orders from the last group purchase ship this week I get PMs everyday wanting us to start another one so here's your chance... WE NEED 10 ORDERS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN SO PLACE YOUR ORDERS NOW TO MAKE SURE THIS HAPPENS!!!

If you want the best looking gauge overlays for your 1998-2002 Camaro or Firebird then look no further! 6LITEREATER DESIGNS will be offering McNord Gauge Overlays in MULTIPLE STYLES and MULTIPLE COLOR OPTIONS COMPLETELY CUSTOMIZED BY YOU...


FEATURES...


NOT ONLY DO WE OFFER A LOT OF DIFFERENT COLOR OPTIONS WE CAN ALSO ADD ANY IMAGE/SYMBOL/WORD YOU WANT TO YOUR GAUGE FACE AND IT WILL LIGHT UP AT NIGHT WITH FACTORY LETTERING!!! HERE'S A PIC OF AN OVERLAY WE DID FOR A GRANATELLI CAR, CUSTOMER PROVIDED JPG OF GRANATELLI SIG AND WE INCORPORATED IT INTO THE OVERLAY:





THESE WILL LIGHT UP WHATEVER COLOR LED/BULB YOU USE SO ALL FIREBIRD MODELS CAN FINALLY CHANGE THEIR LIGHTING!!! HERE'S A PIC OF A CAR USING WHITE LEDS:




COLOR AND BEZEL CHOICES:

[B]Bright Blue w/Bezel:



Dark Blue w/Bezel:



Bright Red w/ Bezel:



Dark Red w/Bezel:

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Orange w/Bezel:



Purple w/Bezel:



Yellow w/Bezel:



Black w/Bezel:

NO PICTURE

Silver w/Bezel:



Silver w/Glare Effect w/Bezel:



Checkered w/Bezel:



White faced w/Bezel:



Sunset Orange Metallic w/ Bezel:

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Now without the bezel...

Bright Blue No Bezel:



Dark Blue No Bezel:



Bright Red No Bezel:



Dark Red No Bezel:



Orange No Bezel:

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Purple No Bezel:



Yellow No Bezel:



Black No Bezel:



Silver No Bezel:



Silver w/Glare Effect No Bezel:



Checkered No Bezel:



White Faced No Bezel:



Sunset Orange Metallic No Bezel:

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ALL OF THE ABOVE ARE ALSO OFFERED FOR 1993-1996 Camaro and Firebirds, here's a taste from the last Group Purchase of a Checkered 1993-1996 Camaro overlay:



Normal Price: $250 shipped

Group Purchase Price: $125 shipped.[/B]

WE CAN ALSO ADD ANY WORDS OR SYMBOLS (within reason) FOR AN EXTRA $20 AND ANY COLOR CAN BECOME CHECKERED STYLE FOR AN EXTRA $30



Words and symbols would go on the tach or speedometer part of the faces... If you look closely you can see I added "6LITEREATER" and "6LE PACKAGE" to mine :



THEY WILL ALSO LIGHT UP AT NIGHT WITH THE REST OF THE LETTERING!!!




We also now offer Carbon Fiber for an EXTRA $50 (REALLY slows down the machines)...






Of course, we will do pretty much ANYTHING you want (as you can see by the above 200MPH overlay!!!) if you are willing to pay (even our most complex overlays have NOT gone over $200 so don't worry), here's a couple of examples (customers change 150 to OMG, etc... one changed SES to "Oh crap!" E and F got changed to thumbs symbols, etc...)






IF YOU DON'T SEE IT THEN ASK, WE CAN PROBABLY DO IT



So, if you want a set then just paypal $125 to madelisle@yahoo.com and be sure to list in the note/e-mail car info and the style and color you want... again, MAKE SURE YOU PUT THE IN THE PAYPAL NOTE:

MAKE AND YEAR OF THE CAR

STYLE/COLOR OF OVERLAYS YOU WANT

ANY SYMBOLS OR WORD ADDITIONS


Make sure you E-MAIL all this to me as well to be safe and accurate...

Place your orders (OR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE) to madelisle@yahoo.com so we can make this happen!

TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR PREVIOUS CUSTOMERS CHECK OUT ARTWORK FROM OUR LAST GROUP PURCHASE HERE:

http://6litereaterdesigns.com/forum/index.php?topic=380.0
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EVERYONE INVOLVED HAS BEEN E-MAILED (to whatever e-mail address you paypal'd from) but just so it is out there, here is what the e-mail says:

First of all, just to reiterate how it all goes down for those who don't know, I pretty much just make and sell splitters and some plastic parts. I also drop ship items that other one man operations, like myself, make for these cars. Brian, McNord, makes these overlays for our cars...

He worked (past tense now) at a company that had the million dollar machines capable of making these high quality overlays. He would do the artwork (multiple layers, ALL one offs so it takes quite a while as you all know), then print, cure, print, cure, print cure add the adhesive, have them die cut and ship them. All was done through his work, after hours.

The production process alone takes a long time and the fact he could only do it when it was his turn to use the machines really made it slow but there is no other way to deliver $300 quality overlays for $125...

We finally had finished our last Group Purchase 3 and had sent all the overlays to shipping (also done through his company to get the company cheaper rate) and started the current Group Purchase 4 and had/have at this point 14 orders (so we can go ahead with production)

I am writing to let all of you know the news I found out today... I got this e-mail from Brian (McNord, guy who makes these for us in Arizona)...

"Mark,
Bad news, when I went to see what the scheduled delivery date on the overlays was I found that the shipping department had shelved & hidden them. I asked them WTF!!! I was told to go ask my manager, that they were just doing what they were told.

I went to my manager yesterday and he told me that they needed to make sure that there weren't any issues with the credit card I had payed with. I asked him what he was talking about. He then told me that he was afraid I would do something stupid or stop payment once they went out because I was being laid off today (yesterday). All news to me.

He then told me that my position was no longer required and all that bla bla crap. I was escorted out of the building and I am waiting for them to call me so I can pick all my stuff up (including the overlays) and go from there. This morning I called a couple of guys I know that do printing and they are working out quotes for this stuff. I am sorry about all of this and I thought they had been sent out. Everything is there and done, but not in the mail yet. I am very angry that they just hid them and sat on it and told me "no problem" & "all taken care of".

I paid in full for the printing & everything with the same credit card they have on file, but I guess they are just being asses about it. They thought I would try to retaliate once I found out I was being let go. Once again I am SOOOO sorry about this, it was not my intention to make everyone wait even longer, I thought everyone already had their overlays.

I WILL be getting them back as soon as they tell me I can come and get them. Please understand how sorry I am for this and let the others know I am sorry as well. It was out of my control. Once again I am sorry.

Thanks,
Brian"

This means the 44 orders from Group Purchase 3 ARE COMPLETELY DONE but did not ship. They will ship within the week. Again, we had no idea and this was obviously one of many surprises today.

We apologize a BILLION times over but also want to say what an amazing group of enthusiasts you guys are as we have not had one person be angry or not understanding of the process. We thank you so much for that, and apologize for yet ANOTHER delay...

If any of you decide you would like to order matching HVAC, Headlight or Shift Plate overlays then e-mail me when I run that group purchase (within the week) and you will get them at our cost...

Next, on to the people who recently paid for the CURRENT group purchase... McNord has 99% locked another place to print...

I had replied...

"Holy crap! Brian, I am so sorry to hear that! Damn, that sucks. You work with those people and then they just treat you like some stranger off the street, not cool at all...

I'll go through the paypals and find everyone's e-mail addresses, is it ok to let people know what happened?

Main thing is let me know as soon as you can about making another batch as I have about 10 people's payments sitting in my paypal account as we speak.... I will stop the GP asap until we know what to do next...

Man, I am SOOOO sorry to hear this dude. Hopefully you can find another place to get these printed so we can make you some interim money and maybe the other place will even hire you...

Let me know anything you can whenever you can, thanks...

M"

To which he replied...

"Thanks, and yes you can tell everyone whatever you want, I don't want to hide anything from anybody. I have the 42 or 43 orders from GP3 filled and they are complete, just not shipped. I can get them, I just have to get permission to go onto the property again which I will but they require a "cooling off period". I am still waiting for my quotes, one guy says he can definitely do it, just needs to figure out how to price it. I will let you know when I get the word from him and my previous employer. Let me know what you would like me to do for everybody, I will do what I can.

I have also been considering making a mold of my quarter panels and seeing if people would be interested in having a set like mine. They would already have the "corrected" shape unlike the ebay ones. There would still be a lot of details to work out, but I am kind of grabbing at strings right now so I figured I would bring it up. Let me know what you think, It may work well with the nose you are working on.

Thanks,
Brian"

SO, we don't know the cost yet but WE ARE GETTING YOUR ORDERS PRINTED. We will also HONOR THE PRICE YOU HAVE ALREADY PAID. More than likely any other GP for these overlays will start at $200 so it may take a couple of weeks to get it going but you will get the overlays and you will not be asked to pay anymore money, we will cover the difference.

You see now there is a lot going into getting all of these one-off custom overlays made for the cheap price they are. Down to shipping through his company even. All of which makes the process longer, and now in the case of the shipping, makes it delayed past the time to produce them (which, as always said before is 4-6 weeks to your door after artwork lock).

LONG STORY SHORT, Brian lost his job and orders from last GP did not ship because of it. He will pick up all the completed overlays and ship as soon as possible. You are all entitled to HVAC, etc.. at our cost on the next GP if you want them (I WILL ALSO HOOK YOU UP WITH ANY OTHER PRODUCTS I SELL AT A GREAT PRICE JUST CONTACT ME). Again, thank you so much for your understanding!

CURRENT group purchases that are paid by Friday are honored but will take a couple of extra weeks, after midnight it is on lock down. We WILL get these made for you but (to the rest reading this on bulletin boards) WE DO NOT GUARUNTEE THAT WILL EVER BE ABLE TO SELL THESE FOR THIS PRICE EVER AGAIN. IF YOU WANT ONE, YOU HAVE UNTIL MIDNIGHT.

Thanks again for your patience and understanding, and a prayer or two for Brian and his family (he just had another daughter) would be appreciated as well!

Sincerly,
Mark DeLisle
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Ok, so there is finally a light at the end of this tunnel. First of all (REFERRING TO THOSE FROM GP3, EAGERLY AWAITING THEIR OVERLAYS FOR A MONTH), as long as things go as planned ALL of your overlays will ship the end of this week or the beginning of next week.

Since you have all been so patient, if any of you want HVAC, etc... when we make them we will hook you up at our cost. Those I just don't have the finances to do for free. I am a one man operation that finds other one men operations to bring out cool products CHEAP.

HOWEVER, if you want any of the INTERIOR plastic pieces I sell (to mount gauges, switches, etc... in the air vents, center console, cup holder, etc...) just let me know and I'll get you the piece of your choice for FREE as soon as I can....

All the important "here's what's going on" info (FOR GP3, GP4 info will follow) is out of the way, now here's the behind the scenes as to what has been going on (again, this is just they "why' to the above "when")... Just got this from McNord...

"Mark,

Early last week I went to my old work to pick up the overlays and to turn in my signed paperwork for my severance package. They told me that they had to mail my original signed paperwork to corporate and they are making me wait seven business days (once they have received it) before they will release anything. (I guess I legally have seven days to retract it).

When I got home I called my dad, he has free legal services through his work. His lawyer told me not to do or say anything until he had an opportunity to look this info over (that is why I was keeping my mouth shut about anything).

I heard back this morning and he said that since I got an employee discount and was an employee at the time they are within their right to do this. It is one of the "perks" of working there which was technically one of my benefits.

I am sorry about keeping you in the dark but I didn't want to do or say anything that could be an issue if the lawyer thought we had something against them but that's not the case after all. Being a "small business" in the state of AZ I guess gives the the right to get away with anything they want apparently.

I hope this clears things up. If its any consolation I haven't been able to sleep or eat over this crap for a week now. Every time I think about all of this shit I feel like I am going to throw up.

Thanks,
Brian Deeney"

So, BASICALLY, Brian wanted to see if we had any legal repercussions against them for holding things up, we don't. He didn't fill us in because he legally couldn't. Now it is all said and done and the end is in sight. A day is set to pick up and he can ship and we can get this all over with and we (myself included) can just ENJOY this awesome overlays smile.gif

NOW, on to those who HAVE PAID FOR THEIR ORDERS IN GP4.... We DO have a way to print them... From Brian...

"Going forward I unfortunately will still have to go through them, I wasn't able to find anyone else willing to do these unless they were all the same for production purposes. I spent three days going through all the printers I could find, (I even called a couple of recommended shops in Indiana and Georgia) just trying to find someone willing to work with me on short custom runs. At least these guys will still make them for us if we want and without the "benefit of an employee discount" I will just be a customer and have all the rights a customer has to get their product in a timely manner. The cost does go up about $25 each, but they wouldn't be able to hold them hostage either.

Thanks,
Brian Deeney"

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE PAID YOU DO NOT OWE ANYMORE MONEY. Anyone else who wants a set though, we will have to now charge $150 base price BUT are going to work on making some of the options free so it will even out to the same price.

As soon as I KNOW 100% GP3 is in the mail we will get artwork going for those who paid in GP4 and get this going... We will now accept other orders BUT READ THIS...

Just like the other orders, to cover our butts, here's the time line...

FROM THE TIME WE LOCK DOWN THE ARTWORK (not from your order date, but from the time we have reached the minimum orders needed, posted artwork, left it up for a reasonable time to get approved, and then locked it for print) production will take 4-6 weeks and they will ship the following week.

Now, since he is doing this as a customer, not after hours, it should go a lot quicker. HOWEVER, be prepared to possibly wait. Here's an example from the last GP...

ORDER 1 came in December 5th! Artwork wasn't locked down until January 19th. So technically, if we were to use the FULL frame of time we originally posted, we are JUST NOW in WEEK 5 of production. Therefore we have one more week of production and they should ship the next week...

Obviously, we thought they were going to ship out three weeks ago but all this crap came up. Even with all the crap though, we are still under the original deadline. Now, it still sucks to order something December 5th and not get it until probably the first week of March. No one REALLY expected that, us included. That is why we are offering discounts on HVACs/etc... or a free interior piece.

Just want to point out that all said and done we aren't total @sses and our still in the original time frame. Now, truth be told, from artwork lock down it should take 1-2 weeks for them to be shipped from now on, BUT just in case things happen, don't order them for a car show next weekend, not going to happen.

So, that's everything. Thanks again for all your patience! I can't wait to see all these crazy overlays you all came up with FINALLY in your cars smile.gif!

Sincerely,
Mark DeLisle
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