firehawkclone
Nov 29 2009, 12:16 AM
StanIROCZ
Nov 29 2009, 03:37 AM
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Nov 28 2009, 07:16 PM)

I took a ride down to the dealer in my buddy's new car to get the Lojack installed

and i ended up buying a(new to me) Tahoe for the wife.
Same thing happened to me the other day. I went to Target to get some toothpaste and ended up getting new razors too.
John, WTF, who buys A BRAND NEW CAR on a whim? "Oh, I'm here at the dealership I might as well buy a new car while I'm at it."

MikeP-99Z
Nov 29 2009, 03:39 AM
Hmm, that's happened before...
Enjoy =)
firehawkclone
Nov 29 2009, 04:27 AM
QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Nov 28 2009, 08:37 PM)

QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Nov 28 2009, 07:16 PM)

I took a ride down to the dealer in my buddy's new car to get the Lojack installed

and i ended up buying a(new to me) Tahoe for the wife.
Same thing happened to me the other day. I went to Target to get some toothpaste and ended up getting new razors too.
John, WTF, who buys A BRAND NEW CAR on a whim? "Oh, I'm here at the dealership I might as well buy a new car while I'm at it."


It wasn't really on a whim, we had been looking for a white Tahoe for awhile(or a CTS-V) and this one was just to good of a deal to pass up. I really wanted a Denali with a 6.2 6spd auto, but there is no way i can swing a 60t$ truck. My wife is just a great lady, think pit crew on race weekends. This is what she drive's everyday, look in the upper left...(EDIT) I really HATE that car, i just don't fit in it!

Sometimes she drive my old work truck/ toy, its not very pleasant to drive on the street.

My avatar is HER old car

She was over do for something my friend! Beside's i haven't told her about the new M&P .45 i just bought
QUOTE (MikeP-99Z @ Nov 28 2009, 08:39 PM)

Hmm, that's happened before...
Enjoy =)
Your wife is like mine Mike, what did you buy her?
Now this is why i feel bad guys, this is my new work truck.......
00 Trans Ram
Nov 29 2009, 04:45 AM
For some reason, the words "YOU SUCK" keep flashing before my eyes. I can't imagine why...
firehawkclone
Nov 29 2009, 05:20 AM
QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Nov 28 2009, 09:45 PM)

For some reason, the words "YOU SUCK" keep flashing before my eyes. I can't imagine why...
HEY its not all gravy... If it makes you feel any better i'll show you were i work/live atleast 12hrs a day, 30 days out of the month, most of the year, 2.5 hrs from home

I am very thankful though, even after being awake for 72hrs a few times a month
-5 star Hotel Wheeler, nearest town 1hr!



300deg steam with some very bad gases, see the guys on the rig floor?

7hrs from home for ever......

Do you feel my pain, if not you can come hang out for a few months
BigEnos
Nov 29 2009, 02:44 PM
My wife drives an '08 3LT Z71 Tahoe, it's a great truck. It would be greater if it had the 6-speed trans., but after our 330xi was totalled we needed something for her. I've actually achieved 19-20mpg on a trip. We had to get some bilsteins for it, and my wife (who isn't "in" to cars) noticed the difference in like 40' of driving. LTZs have auto-ride and probably better shocks than ours came with so you may not need them.
How 'ya like the 5th gen?
Oh, and btw the view from your office is waaaaaay better than mine.
00 Trans Ram
Nov 29 2009, 03:08 PM
OK, now I feel a bit better, John.
But, there are at least a few days of the month that I wish I was somewhere that had no cell phone coverage, plenty of physical labor available and no other obligations. But, just a few days.
BTW, I'll take good care of the Camaro while you're out, if you want!
firehawkclone
Nov 29 2009, 03:19 PM
QUOTE (BigEnos @ Nov 29 2009, 07:44 AM)

My wife drives an '08 3LT Z71 Tahoe, it's a great truck. It would be greater if it had the 6-speed trans., but after our 330xi was totalled we needed something for her. I've actually achieved 19-20mpg on a trip. We had to get some bilsteins for it, and my wife (who isn't "in" to cars) noticed the difference in like 40' of driving. LTZs have auto-ride and probably better shocks than ours came with so you may not need them.
How 'ya like the 5th gen?
Oh, and btw the view from your office is waaaaaay better than mine.
My wife just drove up to her sister's for a few days, she averaged 16mpg. Not bad for being on I-5 were everybody is doing 80+, than it was stop and go on the way home. I think the MPG will go up with a c-back, CAI, ditch the TB coolant line, and tune it with EFIlive. Im still researching the suspension options, im looking at the Pedders or McGaughy's 2/3 drop or just a rear leveling kit.
The 5th gen is my buddys car, and he hasn't let me drive it yet

It is a cool looking car, but it looks funny with the really small tires on it. The interior has this really cool looking blue in color "piping" thats comes across the door. Stupid fast car in a straight line though, and solid at 120mph.
Yeah they do have a nice view.... unit you have to look at it for days on end. And its about to get really nasty weather wise.
firehawkclone
Nov 29 2009, 03:24 PM
QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Nov 29 2009, 08:08 AM)

OK, now I feel a bit better, John.
But, there are at least a few days of the month that I wish I was somewhere that had no cell phone coverage, plenty of physical labor available and no other obligations. But, just a few days.
BTW, I'll take good care of the Camaro while you're out, if you want!
Yeah at work they have found a way to talk to you and make send countless emails all day, Hughs Net with a VOIP phone
The camaro isn't mine bud, you know im a pontiac guy
trackbird
Nov 29 2009, 09:37 PM
QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Nov 28 2009, 10:37 PM)

I've done it about 4 or 5 times actually. My ex wife and I had a habit of waking up, swinging by and buying a car. Heck, I bought a new one, took it back for clean up, drove another and bought it too. That was 2 in 2 days. It happens far more than you might imagine. However, those days are over for me.
firehawkclone
Nov 30 2009, 12:37 AM
QUOTE (trackbird @ Nov 29 2009, 02:37 PM)

QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Nov 28 2009, 10:37 PM)

I've done it about 4 or 5 times actually. My ex wife and I had a habit of waking up, swinging by and buying a car. Heck, I bought a new one, took it back for clean up, drove another and bought it too. That was 2 in 2 days. It happens far more than you might imagine. However, those days are over for me.
I won't be doing it for sometime, i keep cars for a long time. It just hit me that I have had the Sonoma for 10 years
I have yet to buy a NEW car in my life time, maybe one day i'll buy a C9 Z06
MikeP-99Z
Nov 30 2009, 02:40 AM
I wasn't married at the time (1999).
I went to the Chevy house with a friend so that he could pick up a new FRC vette and I was going to drive his Suburban home. I ended up driving out of the dealership in the 1999 Z28 before he finished his paper work on the vette. The Suburban sat there overnight. lol
firehawkclone
Nov 30 2009, 02:49 AM
QUOTE (MikeP-99Z @ Nov 29 2009, 07:40 PM)

I wasn't married at the time (1999).
I went to the Chevy house with a friend so that he could pick up a new FRC vette and I was going to drive his Suburban home. I ended up driving out of the dealership in the 1999 Z28 before he finished his paper work on the vette. The Suburban sat there overnight. lol
Priceless
Racing Geek
Nov 30 2009, 05:57 AM
Man... I wish I was out of school and had a decent job, shop, and spare cash. lol
firehawkclone
Nov 30 2009, 09:43 AM
QUOTE (Racing Geek @ Nov 29 2009, 10:57 PM)

Man... I wish I was out of school and had a decent job, shop, and spare cash. lol
It will come, except for the last one
StanIROCZ
Nov 30 2009, 12:36 PM
You work hard and deserve the toys. Thanks for supporting Detroit
BigEnos
Nov 30 2009, 01:31 PM
QUOTE (Racing Geek @ Nov 30 2009, 12:57 AM)

Man... I wish I was out of school and had a decent job, shop, and spare cash. lol
6 months after I graduated I bought my 1995 Z28 (lightly used). Poor car had no idea what it was in for. Best money I
ever spent. continue to spend.
firehawkclone
Nov 30 2009, 02:48 PM
QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Nov 30 2009, 05:36 AM)

You work hard and deserve the toys. Thanks for supporting Detroit

QUOTE (BigEnos @ Nov 30 2009, 06:31 AM)

QUOTE (Racing Geek @ Nov 30 2009, 12:57 AM)

Man... I wish I was out of school and had a decent job, shop, and spare cash. lol
6 months after I graduated I bought my 1995 Z28 (lightly used). Poor car had no idea what it was in for. Best money I
ever spent. continue to spend.

Stan forever buddy

I hear ya Big E
Rant Alert
I know there is no way to buy american all of the time. And it doesn't sit to well with me that it may be american made, yet the $$$ leaves to some other country when the product is bought(its better than notting though i guess

) Our country is becoming weak, and by no means will buying "American" made by an "American" company fix everything that is wrong here.... BUT IT'S A START
Don't know why im thinking like this nowdays so openly!
nape
Nov 30 2009, 03:40 PM
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Nov 30 2009, 08:48 AM)

Don't know why im thinking like this nowdays so openly!
Because you're tired of feeling like you should apologize for it.
8 cars and counting and I've never bought a foreign car. Hopefully, American manufacturing won't ever go away and I don't ever have to buy an unAmerican car from an unAmerican car company.
BigEnos
Nov 30 2009, 04:25 PM
The three foreign cars I've owned were used when I got them. I definitely tend to buy American, but I'm not going to say I'll never buy a foreign car. I don't think I'd buy a foreign car new. They seem to drop in value a lot and are more expensive in the first place compared to domestics.
As far as new vs. used. I'm really happy with my truck and I bought that new. I wouldn't do that differently. Used trucks seem to be used up or too expensive. I'm sure if I hunted around I could find a good deal I guess. I won't be buying a truck for a long while, hopefully.
I'm with you guys, it doesn't help that a foreign car is assembled in the USA, Toyota takes its profits home. Although if a domestic car company shipped all of its manufacturing offshore I'd have a problem with that.
Racing Geek
Nov 30 2009, 05:24 PM
I'm only 18 but I've owned two cars. The first car I bought was my 87 IROC, and the second one I bought was a beater 96 Ford Tempo for $650. There was some cosmetic damage to the Tempo and the interior needed some love but it ran like a champ despite the 173k+ miles. I wish I wouldn't have sold that car... at least I made $250 on it.
Todd
Dec 1 2009, 03:44 PM
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Nov 30 2009, 09:48 AM)

Rant Alert
I know there is no way to buy american all of the time. And it doesn't sit to well with me that it may be american made, yet the $$$ leaves to some other country when the product is bought(its better than notting though i guess

) Our country is becoming weak, and by no means will buying "American" made by an "American" company fix everything that is wrong here.... BUT IT'S A START
Don't know why im thinking like this nowdays so openly!
I agree...as much as I try not to buy crap from China...sometimes its just not possible...it is ridiculous the stuff thats no longer available "Made in USA".
I've owned a few foreign cars in my time (had a turbo Volvo 240 addiction for a while) but the most recent one I bought because I couldn't find an American option. Granted its a GM and I bought it used...but I'm not dumb enough to think even if I'd bought my Saaby new, that the profits would stay here. But I couldn't find a manual trans sedan/wagon that gets 25/30+ mpg and is comfy for long drives. I LOVE the G8, but that is way too big of a car. I used to travel a lot for work and had rental CTS, G6, and Ford Fusions, and none are as nice as the Saab. My choices were 330 or 9-5...and I didn't want to be one of those BMW guys

That said...I hate all the crap in the 9-5 that has failed (climate control motors, every display) but I'm looking to trade it on an 06-up 9-5 wagon that has the standard GM stuff that works in every Corvette/Tahoe/Impala.
trackbird
Dec 1 2009, 04:20 PM
Out of the last 8 new-off-the-lot cars I/we bought, my GM's have been the most reliable and spent the least time in the shop. My 2002 Z28 never went back to the dealer nor did anything ever break. My 2007 C3500 lost a rear axle seal at 16k, give or take. Other than that, flawless (and I just towed a car through the mountains at 75 mph on cruise again yesterday). I really love that truck.
Black_Z28
Dec 1 2009, 11:22 PM
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Nov 28 2009, 11:20 PM)

Do you feel my pain, if not you can come hang out for a few months

I feel your pain, I'm away from home for about 7 months of the year. And typically it's 7 months straight. This year it will be from Jan 18-June22. Gotta do what ya gotta do. But the only positive is I'm only working 4 days a week, and I can fly to see the lady every week if I wish. But, the cost of that starts to add up over time.
cozog
Dec 4 2009, 02:55 PM
<SERIOUS RANT ON>
I grew up on GM. Most of my family was Buick or Olds. We were Pontiac. My dad bought a 69 Bird (350/2bbl) new and then later another 69 bird (400) used. My first car was a POS 75 Regal (3.8 V6, ugghh!). First bird was a 92 Formula (305). In those times, you could decide between "foreign" and "domestic"... "Made in USA" meant just that. And the companies used USA parts and provided USA service.
Later in life, I now have a 99 BMW M Coupe, a 01 BMW 750 and an 05 Denali, plus the track car. Funny thing is, my M coupe was made in SC, employing US workers with parts supplied from all over, including the US. I do some remote programming work for Hitachi Auto Parts in KY. They supply throttle bodies for LSx engines, Toyota engines and BMW engines. But it's in KY, so 1,000's of KY people have jobs, homes and families because Hitachi put a plant there.
I also work in the furniture industry. If you want an example of what has happened to American manufacturing companies, just look at furniture. Just 10 years ago, 30%-40% of furniture was imported into the US. Today, it's like 90%. And almost all comes from Asia, mostly China. US manufacturing companies can not compete with <$1/hr labor costs. Almost no one makes furniture in the US anymore. If they do, it costs 4-5 times as much. And even some that qualify as made in US use foreign made frames, structures and materials. They just glue it all together.
And what do you call, Microsoft, IBM, Bank of America and Chase who are true US companies, but outsource almost all of their customer service to call centers in India?? For me, that's the worst abuse of all. Not only do they move jobs to another country, but their customers suffer as well.
The point of my rant is that there is no such thing as Made in USA anymore. Any company that has more than 5000 workers or $100M in sales MUST consider the global outlook to survive. They are all comingled and intermixed, especially manufacturing. I don't think it's a bad thing that Toyota, BMW and Honda build cars here. They employ US citizens who pay taxes and buy stuff, but it doesn't do much to help US-owned companies grow and survive either. But US companies are learning. Buick sells the Regal in China. The Chinese are the fastest growing car market on the planet at about 20% annual growth.
Any way you look at it, the world is moving to a true global economy. since we used to be at the top, we are being brought to a lower level by everyone else, who are all stepping up a little, or a lot.
<SERIOUS RANT OFF>
CrashTestDummy
Dec 4 2009, 03:52 PM
QUOTE (cozog @ Dec 4 2009, 08:55 AM)

<SERIOUS RANT ON>
I grew up on GM. Most of my family was Buick or Olds. We were Pontiac. My dad bought a 69 Bird (350/2bbl) new and then later another 69 bird (400) used. My first car was a POS 75 Regal (3.8 V6, ugghh!). First bird was a 92 Formula (305). In those times, you could decide between "foreign" and "domestic"... "Made in USA" meant just that. And the companies used USA parts and provided USA service.
<SNIP>
I'm amazed at how many people I know who owned Regals got them from that 'other' GM company 'POS'!! Unless it was a Buick T-Type Regal, almost all of the others friends have owned have all been POS Regals.
And it's _never_ just a 'Regal'. They are always known as 'POS Regal'.
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