Have you considered how much free advertising you've given away?
And what do you get in return?

For instance we may buy something (say a set of wheels) and the wheels are great and service good. Why advertise for them for free? They did their job in giving you good service.


Do we now EXPECT sucky service? And in receiving good service are so surprised by it, that we sing the praises of a shop that did their damn job?

Lonnie,

I'm a little bit confused...... (like I walked in on the second half of a conversation )

Maybe, he's arguing with the little voice in his head?

don't feel bad, i'm lost too

hmm... you must be talking about the Polo shirt I wore today... and the little tab that says Dockers on my chinos.

I'm a little lost in this thread too, but I have adopted a no-reverse-sponsorship policy. I toss all the stickers that come with products I buy.

I AM an amatuer, so my standards for what I can consider "sponsorship" are quite vague, but I gotta draw the line somewhere.

I'm assuming (without making an ASS out of U and ME) that he probably went somewhere and got good service and they know about it.
And due to that, probably asked him to write a good word on them in public, or board or something... instead of asking for such things, they should be glad they offered great service and simply hope the word will get around... not forcing the word to go around.
That's what I think might have happened... but then again... it's imho, and I may be totally off.

Mine go on my tool box and the cabinets in the garage.

They're cheaper then paint

might as well try to sell them to ricers...
make $ out of their ignorance for added performance due to stickers.

:stupid:

And Eugenio... even if you're wrong, I still agree with the sentiment of what you wrote. You're pretty quick for a canuck.

Hah! Me too! My tool chest is decorated with all sorts of carpart-related stickers. It's the fastest toolbox on the block

and you're not bad for a Yankee
uh-oh... hijacking again... :leaving:

My toolbox too! Wanna know how much work is done to my car.....just look at the toolbox!

I have to admit, I am on the lookout for that special sticker to cover the hole in my rear bumper cover. It was a "gift" someone left for me at the courthouse while I was inside renewing my tags

There's only going to be one, so I've got to find the sticker that will add the most speed

He's no Yankee....he's a southern boy.....

Damn straight! And proud of it too! Psh. As if I'd want to be associated with Northerners...

I run Stranoparts stickers and Insane exhaust stickers along with every other sticker for contingancy and SCCA requirement stuff. I'll run stickers of companies that are good to me and/or do great work.

And I thank you for that (as well as the others who run my stickers). I also appreciate it greatly.

For the record, I don't really consider the "advertising" completely free. After all, I do spend a LOT of free time discussing options and often times talking people out of more expensive stuff if they don't need it.

And the best advertising is word-of-mouth, or referals. No ad in a forum, or in a magazine works as well.

Exactly

I run one of Sam's stickers on my back window and FRRAX stickers (and Summit Point decals, it's a tradition). Otherwise, my car is sticker-free (can I run several stickers and be "Sticker free"?). I do have a pair of large envelopes full of contingency sized decals (and everything else) from almost anyone you can think of. I keep threatening to ebay the whole bag of them (some moron will pay entirely too much money for a collection of adhesive horsepower like I have at home).

I WOULD run stranoparts stickers if I had them.. (hint hint).

But seriously, I ONLY put stickers on my car for stuff that is IN my car. I am not a fan of advertising for somebody unless they have treated me well in my racing experiences. (ie, Strano!)

I understand your initial point Karen, but I don't mind running stickers if I run the products. As far as the BIG Quarter panel 2 foot tall and 2 foot high sticker, i am reserving that for the first person to sign up for my $600 annual sponsorship package...

So, little stickers, no problem. BIG DECALS.. i need a little cash for a set of tires.

Brian

Have you seen the new Kumho stickers? They are larger then 2 feet.

Wasn't referring to you.

In fact other than a redline sticker, SUNOCO race fuels, and FRRAX.com stickers, yours is the only bussiness sticker that (that isn't required)


Your case is different. If I owned a Bimmer, Bob's shop would be different too (which must be the reason why his customers run huge decals).

In a very few instances "help" goes beyond the sale...


If someone sees my car it will look like it has stickers everywhere....


Let's see....

TireRack sticker on windsheild. Wire wheel SCCA sticker on front hood. SCCA road to Topeka stickers 1 per side. SCCA Solo events stickers 1 per side. Subaru Cendiv stickers 1 per side. National Tour stickers 1/side, 74 ESP on both sides, Other than the National Tour stickers ALL of those are required stickers.

Also have a stranoparts.com, redline oils, Sunoco, Honest Charlies speed shop stickers, and 3 Southern Culture On The Skids stickers on the rear window

I only run stickers if somebody has

1) Given me free stuff
2) Given me stuff at a discount
3) Offered free setup advice (Hi Sam )

Not counting contingency and "series sponsor" stickers, of course, since they sorta fall under Nos. 1 & 2. If it wasn't for Tirerack and other SCCA sponsors, I would probably have to pay more $$$ for entry fees.

Pat

P.S. Still trying to figure out why I have "Powered by Guinness" stickers.

I have a Sunoco Race Fuels one too...

I also ran Koni, Bilstein on my SS.

My favorite sticker is the US flag though.

I left all the stickers on the SS since it's arrest me red anyways. I peeled off the tirerack shit from the Z06 though and took off all the vinyl even in between the Atlanta events b/c I made special effort to make the car ultrastealthy - !DRL mod.

cops can't pull over what they can't see.

I agree the Kumho hood sticker is too damned big. But the last laugh is on them when I get enough drivers for a ASP class in the Pro Solos and we can rob them of some of their money.

Im still a newb pretty much, so i have only 4 sticker's on the bird...

1. SCCA
2. NASA
3. And 2 FRRAX

Oh i do have a stack of sticker's, becuase the "roller" is covered

I love you man!!!

Hummm, if I had some of those nifty stranoparts stickers, I know a good place on the car for 'em (hint, hint)

My car has the National Tour package and 10 inch numbers 24/7/365...can you say "Cop Magnet" boys and girls? Need to find a good place for the FRRAX stickers - goin' on this week.




Now, that's what I'm talking about... (sipping a pint as I type )

Where do we go to get FRRAX stickers?

I could use some Strano parts stickers too! I never received any in the stuff I've ordered.

Currently, most of my stickers are on the tool box, except for the billion that we placed on a camry that parked in front of my house one night.

EASY does it TURBO

I have one left for the truck

You either have to specifically tell Sam you want some when you order something or he'll give you some at a National Tour or Pro Solo if he's in attendance.
He should really send them out with every order. I'd pass them onto another f-body guy for him if I already had a pair for my car.

thread hijacker aka trackbird will sell you a pair of FRRAX stickers I do believe.

Man, my legend is growing (I split one of the last topics Eugenio and I thoroughly hijacked, the first step is admitting that you have a problem).

I do have FRRAX stickers left. I have 3 x 10" in Red, Blue, Metallic grey (not quite silver?), black, and white. I also have a few of the large 24" wide (great for enclosed trailers, or the back window of trucks) 3 color frrax logos (black, red, blue).

Just send a PM with what you need.

More info here:

http://frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=3634

I don't send stickers out with all orders for a pretty simple reason. Ironically one that kind of started the thread.

I don't like throwing money away, and my stickers are a few bucks each. And *ahem* even some of you who have them don't run them.

If you ask, I'll get you some. Though all I have right now are white stickers. Just send me you addresses and I'll get you some.

BTW, in Pat's case. I fulfilled all *3* of his requirements, not just #3. How are my L98 manifolds doing'? Or the quantity discount on the 2 Quaifes you bought for you old toys?

And Lonnie.... I know you weren't talking about me, I just thought I'd chime in since not everyone feels the same as you do.

I can vouch for that. After starting to get stickers made, I was amazed at how quickly that adds up.

I guess I would need a new stranoparts sticker now that the Camaro is gone. You do sell Alfa parts, don't you Sam? I know I will need some Koni's at least.

Kevin, I need to return one of the frrax stickers to you. The other one I still need to put on the Tahoe.

You can do that.

Lonnie is lamenting about FREE advertising with SUPPLIED graphics ... what about having to PAY for REQUIRED graphics?

Mitch... IMCA doesn't charge your for required stickers....they instead charge you $100 for a license that is bundled with necessary stickers.

Yep.... I've even spec'd some revalve rate for Koni Sports on a Milano that a customer autocrosses. Fun car, not real fast.... but fun.

Ooo, Ooo, me me me!

White would be perfect for a black car. I won't spoil your good name and reputation Sam, honest. I was 5th overall (locally) last time out.

A far cry from where I was three years ago...thanks.

Sam and Kevin, ever thought about doing an inside-the-window clinger?

I've got the black stickers for frrax and stranoparts on magnets, but a clinger (preferably white on clear) could stay on all the time. The outside of the window does get scraped in winter.

I wasn't talking about you either. I can check off a few things myself from that list, and now I can add "teaching me to drive"

What I object to are things like K&N, Redline, Hypercoil, etc stickers for companies that haven't done a thing except take my money.

I just put my stickers low, or real high (above/below the defroster bands) and I've not scraped one yet (though one is up about 1 band or so from the bottom now). But, if I can find someone to do them (I need to talk to Dave at soloperformance), I would consider it.

When it gets real cold the vinyl on my stickers shrinks, the think Tirerack one survives, but some of the others don't.

You mean those people I see driving pickups around here with K&N stickers in their back windows aren't sponsored???

Pat

Cool. I should pick the GTV6 up in the middle of May. As soon as I have taken care of the "has to be done" stuff, I will be speaking to you. Remember to throw a sticker in with the order!

I run stranoparts.com decals and frrax.com usually on magnets. Although I did damaged one of my strano decals. Sam has offered me great service and helpful advice.

Although I'm not sure my driving is worthy of them at times.

Only thing permanent is a silver FRRAX.com decal on my rear window.

Exactly. Acknowledging and promoting people that help me in some way and/or provide a service I want to support (and therefore keep available) is fine.

Bragging about the parts I've bought and/or "making it look like a race car" is just too "ricey".

Except, of course, for that one sticker I need to cover a hole

LOL ... reading the rules and being selective about decal placement is the first rule of racing, eh?

One man's sticker is another man's "aero package"