Yup...

Vote for me please.

Time to put those subies/evos/mr2s DOWN.

YOU WILL RESPECT MAH V8 AUTHORITY!!!

hehehehe

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2579608


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More info on the car and pics.

http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch42.htm

Lotsa views and no posts....you guys don't like 4th gen Trans-Am cars????


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Looks like a fun ride! I say throw some lights and turn signals on it and make it your beater, but hey that's just me

5 stars!

Man, that'd make a nice CP car. ;-)

Good catch!

Thanks for the stars Stan!

Gene...it will be AP or CP legal depening on what weight I want to run. I'll have to add a BUNCH to run CP unless I use a smaller motor or something. However I'm sure it'll make it to some cone-dodging events! As well as DEs, roadracing and open road racing.

And oh yes, I've thought about making quickbrackets for lights and a horn and being able to drive it on the street. Heh heh.


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You should bring it to an practice auto-x over the summer and let me drive it . Please? I'll even wear Witchdoctor yellow.

http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch57.htm

http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch71.htm

http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch74.htm



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black IS fast

That's hot... no really, that's going to be really hot in Texas sun.

Lookin' good though!

Scratcher was accepted for the innaugural GRM UTCC.




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edit: because I can't spell when I'm smiling...

sweet.
i hate you.

dude... i can see divorce in your future....

Naah, she'll probably hop behind the wheel and he won't be able to get her out. ;-)

Bored?

Updates to read, laugh at, make fun of, etc.

(and yes....I spent 25$ on a gallon of black rustoleum for chapter 74....)

Chapter 75: Entering the Grassroots Motorsports Ultimate Track Car Challenge (June 2007)

Chapter 76: Thrash 1 (16 June 2007)

Chapter 77: Body Check (17 June 2007)

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The car is looking awesome! good Luck!

where do you live? need any help?

Thanks guys..

I live in San Antonio. Five guys (WDMS Crewdogs, two of them on this board) are showing up Friday night for a two-day thrash. With any luck I'll be at a dyno shop the following weekend doing break-in and baseline tuning.

After that, I'll be pulling every string I can find to get some track time and get the suspension/aero/brakes sorted out. If I get a weekend or a day up at MSR-C you wanna come help? The car will be setup with a DL1 and an LCD dash (DASH2) and I've got IR tire sensors (only 3...so I gotta do one tire at a time) so hopefully I can dial in the suspension pretty quick. But there will be tons to do...reliability first, speed second (normally safety first, but I've got that covered).

I really really want to do well at the UTCC. I've always learned new tracks pretty fast, but this car is gonna be a whole lot quicker than anything else I've driven (s2000, atlantic, ff, asedan, ITS, etc). Hopefully I can get on top of the learning curve quickly and lay the f-body smackdown at VIR.


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if you guys do a date at MSR-C i would be offended if i wasnt give a heads up. i would love to come out and help. i've worked w/ LG there w/ thier Trans Am and World Challenge cars. that thing should be wellinto the teens there.

Warren Motorsports Complex is 15 minutes from MSR-C. The place is at your disposal if needed.

FYI ... MSR-C has a shop there with a dyno if needed and Performance Speed Tech is a full service speed shop.

Let me know when you are coming out and I'll be there to fetch wrenches.

Burgers at Grumps is a must.

Off topic: What are Carrera shocks?

Shocks from a 911, of course!!



http://www.roadcatalogs.com/store/carrerashocks.html

Evolved mainly from circle-track stuff, very durable and not too expensive. The
good ones are owner-rebuildable and owner-valvable.

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I was checking out the pictures of the body on and I'm like "wow, those are some great panel gaps! Oh wait, it's all one piece!

Any time you feel like testing out that "learning ability" on a new track, come on over to No Problem Raceway. It's just SE of baton Rouge, or about 6-7 hours from you. There are regular track days with 20 minute sessions for $115 for the whole day, usually on Sundays.

I'd love to!

I know some racers who have played out there and they speak highly of the place. Unfortunately it is a little far for the moment and I have access to some closer places and need the shake down time (and not windshield-of-the-truck time! ).

However, I'll try and get out there as soon as I can.

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It just keeps getting closer...

http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch78.htm

It was a working weekend thanks to the WDMS crew. Nick (01 Z28 FStawk) and Gary (86 Z28, CMC car) are both regulars here...thanks to both of them and ALL the gang!!!


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Awesome car. I hope to build something like that someday.

What do you think the final mass will come in at?

Paul,

I am really enjoying the pics of the buildup. It is looking really, really good!

http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch79.htm

The UTCC is getting close and I am getting nervous. Lots to do and precious little time to do it. Cross your fingers...


Steve,
Figure 2100lbs with half fuel and no driver. That's my target. Should be very close to that.


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Name's Stan, but steve is close . Actually Stan is my nickname, Austin is my real name.
2100 seems to be in line with this tube frame only car.
He is running an Aluminum LSX with C5 corners, shortened tq tube, and diff. He doesn't have a full body, but has some aluminum. The LSX is about 100 lbs lighter than a gen 1. The independent rear might be similar in mass. You have the glass body and I have no idea how much it weights. His is 1980 lbs.

DOH!
Sorry Stan!!

I've seen that car on the Net before. It's Kinsler's kid if I'm not mistaken. Not sure what HP he has but those are some REALLY short control arms. I'd love to run IRS, but at the power/grip I have it'd be iffy and for trans-am/GT1 it is verbotten anyway. Killer fabwork on that car and I'd love to run with him sometime. Wonder what kind of power he has...any ideas? Needs real tires <snicker>


It stopped raining...wh00p!

http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch79a.htm


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Yeah, Kinsler kid. About 21 years old and still in college. Built it in one year. Made me very jealous. Many parts of the fabrication were very impressive. The only thing I can really knock him on is not using a tubing bender more. He actually was a member here and sold his 4th gen 1LE on this forum to someone in Texas to fund this project…. It wasn’t you was it?!?

Last year he had a stock Zo6 motor with the injection stacks, so that puts him at maybe 425 HP or so. Over the winter he bought a stroker 427, can’t remember if it was based off of the LS1 or LS2 block, but it should be nasty. I’m guessing about 600 HP. I haven’t talked to him in a while to see how everything went. He was developing a new set of stacks to go with it.

So more grip requires longer arms is what you are saying? He’s only ran street tires that I know of so far. Took me for a ride down a couple local freeways… hang on for dear life.

I'd like to build something like yours or his someday.

Stan,

Thanks for the additional info...wow, 600hp @ 2000lbs in that thing would be a terror! I didn't buy his 1LE, mine are both FStock 3rd gens (insert weak-nut tpi joke here! ).

Don't get me wrong, I'm speaking in generalities. It is POSSIBLE to get more grip with a stock arm (of course), but the longer the arm the better. They don't run such positive offset wheels for brake cooling!

The tires on his car aren't streets, they are r-compound kumhos. Granted, they aren't 710s, but they aren't streets either.

Interesting you mention building a car like mine, several folks have mentioned it recently. Frank (helping me build, lives up the street, been racing buddies for a looooong time, awesome welder/fabricator) and I took a good look this past Saturday at making a copy of my car for him. Mine uses all circle-track parts (ever priced a corner on a riley or a rocketsports???) and really wouldnt be all that hard to duplicate. Derhaag still makes bodies for the 4th gen t/a+gt1 cars or you could convert it to c5 or c6 I would imagine.

Food for thought.


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Probably more of a wet dream than anything else. My wife-to-be will probably prevent it from ever happening.

It has to be expensive and time consuming to make something like this, but then think about how much time we spending making something work around the constraints of the existing car. Or how much time and money we spend to make the existing car light. To have a clean slate to make things the way you want would be nice.

Why the positive offset wheels? Wouldn’t that make it harder to have long arms? I just assumed that long arms would reduce the change in IC and somehow make the system more stable.

So I guess that explains his daddy's (grandpa's??) ITB injection system being on that thing?? SWEET! That's the first time I've ever actually seen it used in an LSx application, in an operational vehicle!

Put an olds cutlass body on it! For some reason I always liked those in trans-am guise.

Are there year/make body style limitations/age limits in GT1, like there are (were) in Trans Am??

Positive offset is my front wheels. 12" wide and only 2" on the face side and 10" backspace. That way the control arms can be nice and long.

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=101

And it is INCREDIBLY nice to be able to get to everything fairly simply. I've worked on plenty of production based cars-that-are-raced and as you mention, a lot of it is huge PITA to work around. Additionally by the time you are done, you still have a lot of limitations. Sure it isnt cheap nor is it done in a few weekends, but for less than the cost of a used z06 I'll have a car that will destroy a whole ton of cars (p-cars, f-cars, vette, viper, etc) and it is based on a Coleman catalog.

HA! I always liked the olds bodystyles also but my favorites were the lt1 4th gens and the DeKon Monzas. I actually had two sets of DeKon bodywork when I bought this project and sold them both to help pay for it. For gt1, there is a TON of legal bodies. For Chev it is all gens of camaros, monzas, 63+ vettes, lumina, monte carlo and beretta. Buicks can be regals or somersets, and Olds can be Ciera, Cutlass, toronado and aurora (LOVED the aurora IMSA GTS cars!!!). There there is the firebirds, grand-prixs and fieros. Not all are T/A legal, but they can all run scca regionals and nationals.

I'm just crossing my fingers that T/A makes a comeback.

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Me too, I'm hoping they do something that slots between Speed World Challenge GT and Touring. Ponycar only and production based. That would be bad-ass.

American Iron?

Something that might actually be on TV. Also, I don't see the mfr's flocking to AI any time soon. Get the detroit 3 in there fighting it out with their latest offerrings and you could see something that resembles T/A's heyday.

Did you get the mounts for the pushbar fabbed up yet??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Police-Car-...tem230151801969

BWAHAhahahahaha

Nice one Alien!

FWIW, the car hopefully fires up in the next day or two, dyno apt for Saturday afternoon and possibly make MSR-C for member track days on Sunday for a shakedown.

Everyone please cross your fingers.


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No dyno and no track time this weekend. Driveshaft and oil filter issues crippled the weekend, but in the end they both got resolved and TONS of other stuff got done.

In fact, if I felt a little more loopy I could walk out into my garage, drop into the Kirkey, flip the master, ignition and fuel pump switches and hit the button. She'd bark to life (she sounds SO FRAKKING ROWDY!!!) and I could ease in the clutch, drop the jerico in first and go terrorize the living crap outta my neighborhood....and then go to jail I'm sure.

Anyway, we have a pretty much UN-dyno'd and UN-shook down car. Lots of phone calls to make tomorrow and with any luck we'll be heading to VIR in the next few days. There are only 3 chevrolets entered and the other two are corvettes (a c4 and a c5). If we make it, we'll be the ONLY f-body in the event!

Bored? An update with some pics:

http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch80.htm

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sweet car

I assume that you will be making a cover for the DS and trans?????

> sweet car

thanks

> I assume that you will be making a cover for the DS and trans?????

well...then how would I check u-joint play down the front straight?



yup, covers will be made!


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Hot!

Good luck kicking some ass at the UTCC.

So one of my co-workers showed me that page at work today and I was thinking what a bad ass car, then he was telling me how you were comming in to get some tires mounted up or something (might of heard it wrong) anyways, you bringing the car? lol.

VERY nice. Good luck with the shakedown cruise!

Ok good idea!