IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 Forum Rules 
Unbalanced EngineeringSolo PerformanceUMI PerformanceBlaine Fabrication.comHotpart.com
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> brake cooling on 4th gen
leebo
post Dec 12 2009, 03:44 AM
Post #1


Member
*

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 98
Joined: 27-November 09
Member No.: 7,103



I need to cool the brakes on my CMC build on my 95 camaro. Where are most people putting the intake for the cool air? Are the any inlets made for this car to make a neat installation? Some pics would be helpful.
thanks

This post has been edited by leebo: Dec 12 2009, 01:19 PM
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Black_Z28
post Dec 12 2009, 04:51 AM
Post #2


Member
*

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 63
Joined: 1-March 08
Member No.: 2,132



I know a lot of guys have used the area where the fog lights were. I believe that's the most popular place for brake cooling ducts on a LT1 camaro.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Racing Geek
post Dec 12 2009, 06:05 AM
Post #3


Advanced Member
**

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 338
Joined: 31-October 08
From: Milwaukee, WI
Member No.: 2,924



Some people also cut holes in the airdam and rivit some cooling ducts to the back for the brake cooling. If everything goes according to plans I plan on having the brake ducts come off the front breather setup.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
leebo
post Dec 12 2009, 01:18 PM
Post #4


Member
*

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 98
Joined: 27-November 09
Member No.: 7,103



behind the fog lights is the steel bumper. It would take some serious metal removal to get a duct out from there. Air dam would work but seems like it would be flimsy there. I've seen some where the turn signals are but the ones I've seen there looked rigged and not very well done and I'm not sure how much air they would pick up there.
thanks
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Doug Phillips
post Dec 12 2009, 03:16 PM
Post #5


Advanced Member
**

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 413
Joined: 29-December 03
From: Schomberg, Ontario, Canada
Member No.: 59



QUOTE (leebo @ Dec 12 2009, 08:18 AM) *
behind the fog lights is the steel bumper. It would take some serious metal removal to get a duct out from there. Air dam would work but seems like it would be flimsy there. I've seen some where the turn signals are but the ones I've seen there looked rigged and not very well done and I'm not sure how much air they would pick up there.
thanks



Is this a streetcar for lapping? What makes you think you need brake cooling? Have you used up all you options for pads and brake upgrades?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
PeteL
post Dec 12 2009, 04:11 PM
Post #6


Member
*

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 233
Joined: 27-December 03
Member No.: 53



QUOTE (Doug Phillips @ Dec 12 2009, 10:16 AM) *
Is this a streetcar for lapping? What makes you think you need brake cooling? Have you used up all you options for pads and brake upgrades?


CMC = Camaro Mustange Challenge = Racecar
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
leebo
post Dec 12 2009, 04:26 PM
Post #7


Member
*

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 98
Joined: 27-November 09
Member No.: 7,103



QUOTE (PeteL @ Dec 12 2009, 11:11 AM) *
QUOTE (Doug Phillips @ Dec 12 2009, 10:16 AM) *
Is this a streetcar for lapping? What makes you think you need brake cooling? Have you used up all you options for pads and brake upgrades?


CMC = Camaro Mustange Challenge = Racecar

Like Pete said, Its a racecar.
thanks
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
cozog
post Dec 12 2009, 07:41 PM
Post #8


Member
*

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 239
Joined: 8-May 09
From: Columbus, OH
Member No.: 4,935



NACA ducts in turn signal light holes
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Doug Phillips
post Dec 12 2009, 08:24 PM
Post #9


Advanced Member
**

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 413
Joined: 29-December 03
From: Schomberg, Ontario, Canada
Member No.: 59



Duh. Nevermind. LOL
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Blainefab
post Dec 12 2009, 09:17 PM
Post #10


I build race cars
*****

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 4,748
Joined: 31-August 05
From: Central coast, CA
Member No.: 874



I've used these in the foglight holes:

http://www.ioportracing.com/Merchant2/merc...tegory_Code=DAA

With a little trimming, and some fab work to fill the gaps, they look good. Trimming the bumper cover and bumper beam for brake duct clearance is CMC legal.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
GlennCMC70
post Dec 13 2009, 01:01 AM
Post #11


Veteran Member
*****

Group: Member
Posts: 2,688
Joined: 23-December 03
From: Ft Worth, TX
Member No.: 8



4 years straight i've been a podium finisher at Nat's in a CMC car. regional Champ as well as 2x National Champ, even an Overall Enduro win (8 hrs).

i have no cooling ducts and never have. drive the car first. find out if you even need them before you add them it doesnt need ducts just because its track only car.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
cccbock
post Dec 13 2009, 04:42 PM
Post #12


Advanced Member
**

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 934
Joined: 7-March 06
Member No.: 1,113



QUOTE (GlennCMC70 @ Dec 12 2009, 08:01 PM) *
4 years straight i've been a podium finisher at Nat's in a CMC car. regional Champ as well as 2x National Champ, even an Overall Enduro win (8 hrs).

i have no cooling ducts and never have. drive the car first. find out if you even need them before you add them it doesnt need ducts just because its track only car.



Kinda hard to argue with that!

bock
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
leebo
post Dec 13 2009, 05:44 PM
Post #13


Member
*

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 98
Joined: 27-November 09
Member No.: 7,103



I don't think brake ducts are gonna improve my lap times but I do feel they will reduce wear and tear on my brake pads and rotor. At 160$ for pads and rotors at 50$ each I think the coolers would be cheap installation for a little more equipment life. The parts needed for brake ducts are less than 100$ and a little elbow grease.
thanks Leebo
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
GlennCMC70
post Dec 13 2009, 08:44 PM
Post #14


Veteran Member
*****

Group: Member
Posts: 2,688
Joined: 23-December 03
From: Ft Worth, TX
Member No.: 8



i get 3 plus events out of a set of XP10's.
i once ran an 8 hour enduro and 2 more regional events on the same set of pads.
....... who cares if they extend wear beyond that. they are just not worth the major hassel of keeping them free of damage.

another data point. i installed a used pair of calipers on this car when i built it (dust boots burned off) back in 2004. they have never been off the car or disconnected from the brake line - NEVER in 5 years of 7-8 event weekends per year. our regional weekends are 7 track sessions per event - 1 prcatice/warmup, 2 quals and 4 races. National events (4 in the last 4 years) are 3-4 DAYS of track time.
i'm telling you - drive the car, get behind the wheel, then see if they are needed. your tracks local to you may need them. i havent, even at Miller (CMC track record holder there).

oh, i also get a season our of cheep parts store rotors ($60 each - Wagners).
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
AllZWay
post Dec 14 2009, 03:19 PM
Post #15


Advanced Member
**

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 647
Joined: 30-December 03
From: Paris, Texas
Member No.: 74



I generally get 5 weekends or 20 races out of cheap Autozone rotors and XP10 pads. I have raced for three years with no cooling either and in Texas heat.

I have decided for next year to try brake cooling to see if anything can be gained from having them, but I am not expecting much though.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
BPWilliams
post Dec 16 2009, 06:51 PM
Post #16


Advanced Member
**

Group: Advanced Members
Posts: 285
Joined: 29-June 09
Member No.: 5,458



I made ducts out of thin sheet metal (AC Ducts) that went in my turn signals on my Gen3 car. I then ran 3" clothes dryer ducting to a 3" aluminum pipe mounted to the frame at the tire apex rub spot. From there I ran the good duct to the tire to save on cost and repair length. the only reason for the ducts in AZ is that it gets so darn hot out here.. we need to cool everything we can!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 17th June 2025 - 12:49 PM