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 Dec 29 2007, 02:29 AM
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Does not play well with others  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 287 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 164  |
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It took me maybe 90 min to get the motor down and most of that was spent screwing around with pressure washing the bottom of the motor & car off. I also drained the power steering, oil and radiator before starting. There was about a gallon of water in the bottom of the crank case. |
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Dec 29 2007, 03:30 AM
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4 |
And if you re-route your front brake lines out of the K-member, you won't have to bust open the brake system, making the going back in a lot easier.
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Dec 29 2007, 04:40 AM
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Does not play well with others Group: Advanced Members Posts: 287 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 164 |
QUOTE (mitchntx @ Dec 28 2007, 10:30 PM)  And if you re-route your front brake lines out of the K-member, you won't have to bust open the brake system, making the going back in a lot easier. That's the plan. I just cut the front lines as I know I've got a 'good spare' set that I can re-route around the radiator support next time around. I may just get some 3/16" brake lines and flare them all myself as well, it depends on how adventurous I want to get. -- Nick |
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Dec 29 2007, 04:52 AM
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Grumpy Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,722 Joined: 1-January 04 From: Bakersfield CA Member No.: 81 |
So Nick, do I have to watch you next year in AI (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/gr_driving3.gif) or are you sticking with your plan to make it a CMC car?
I can only dream of the day I have a lift! |
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Dec 29 2007, 07:24 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,086 Joined: 16-January 04 From: Chandler AZ Member No.: 130 |
Nice lift! Would be nice to have now while I'm installing my headers...(IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
PS - nice pic in latest GRM too! |
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Dec 29 2007, 03:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 311 Joined: 8-December 05 From: D/FW Tx Member No.: 1,005 |
Is that an Iron Maiden mirror on the ceiling?
Beef up those hood pin supports will ya. Nice half page pic (Feb.'08, page 25) of the yeller car in GRM! jb |
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Dec 29 2007, 03:59 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
How many racecars do you own? I'm counting 3.
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Dec 29 2007, 04:14 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,647 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Pittsburgh, PA Member No.: 14 |
I have no idea what this thread is about because I can't get past the picture of the garage. Wow that is nice.
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Dec 29 2007, 05:56 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 181 Joined: 28-December 03 From: Sacramento Member No.: 57 |
What's the purpose of the covers on the front shocks?
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Dec 29 2007, 06:55 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 13-January 07 From: Solebury, Pa. Member No.: 1,589 |
QUOTE (Bud M @ Dec 29 2007, 12:56 PM) What's the purpose of the covers on the front shocks? I'm gonna guess it was to make sure water did not get past the top seals of the shocks when he was pressure washing the whole deal?? |
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Dec 29 2007, 07:09 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,876 Joined: 3-July 04 From: Pearland, Texas Member No.: 385 |
Yep, that's the easy way to change the plugs on one of those cars. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif)
With all the weight you pulled out of the front of that thing, I'd have been afraid of rolling the car off the lift backwards as the last bolt dropped out. Nice. Double-flaring, or bubble-flaring as a lot of the newer cars use, is not that difficult, as long as you have the right tools. |
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Dec 29 2007, 07:21 PM
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Grumpy Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,722 Joined: 1-January 04 From: Bakersfield CA Member No.: 81 |
QUOTE (Bud M @ Dec 29 2007, 10:56 AM) What's the purpose of the covers on the front shocks? To keep debris off them. I can't remeber if they are inverted or not. |
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Dec 29 2007, 08:25 PM
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Bud M @ Dec 29 2007, 11:56 AM) What's the purpose of the covers on the front shocks? Secret Squirrel stuff ... |
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Dec 29 2007, 08:45 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,876 Joined: 3-July 04 From: Pearland, Texas Member No.: 385 |
It's so no one will know he is actually running Sears Road Handler shocks on the front. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif)
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Dec 30 2007, 02:37 AM
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Does not play well with others Group: Advanced Members Posts: 287 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 164 |
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Dec 28 2007, 11:52 PM) So Nick, do I have to watch you next year in AI (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/gr_driving3.gif) or are you sticking with your plan to make it a CMC car? I can only dream of the day I have a lift! I'm not 100% sure which way I"m going just yet. I"m fairly sure the modified radiator location is comming out. It was too much of a headache to get the air ducted in. I'mgoign to, at the very least, redo the radiator location. I've got to source a motor for it as well. Soooooo, we'll see which way the plasma cutter takes me when I stat to cut the radiator support off as well. -- Nick |
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Dec 30 2007, 02:37 AM
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Does not play well with others Group: Advanced Members Posts: 287 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 164 |
QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Dec 29 2007, 03:45 PM) It's so no one will know he is actually running Sears Road Handler shocks on the front. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) No way man! Road Handlers are SO yesterday! I've got me some Monroes on there! |
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Dec 30 2007, 02:43 AM
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Does not play well with others Group: Advanced Members Posts: 287 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 164 |
QUOTE (Rob Hood @ Dec 29 2007, 02:24 AM) Nice lift! Would be nice to have now while I'm installing my headers...(IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) PS - nice pic in latest GRM too! QUOTE (jeffburch @ Dec 29 2007, 10:46 AM) Is that an Iron Maiden mirror on the ceiling? Beef up those hood pin supports will ya. Nice half page pic (Feb.'08, page 25) of the yeller car in GRM! jb Yep, its a maiden poster on the ceiling: (IMG:http://gallery.noid.org/albums/wallart/DPP_1421.sized.jpg) I haven't gotten the latest GRM yet! Which picture is it?? QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Dec 29 2007, 10:59 AM) How many racecars do you own? I'm counting 3. Just two, the yellow CMC car and the red one in the picture above. I've got a track bike, an 03 ZX6R but that doesn't count as I don't' race it (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ... yet. QUOTE (KeithO @ Dec 29 2007, 11:14 AM) I have no idea what this thread is about because I can't get past the picture of the garage. Wow that is nice. Thanks! I've had fun with the constrution in the last 7 - 8 months but now its time to get serious with some wrenching! QUOTE (Bud M @ Dec 29 2007, 12:56 PM) What's the purpose of the covers on the front shocks? QUOTE (dailydriver @ Dec 29 2007, 01:55 PM) QUOTE (Bud M @ Dec 29 2007, 12:56 PM) What's the purpose of the covers on the front shocks? I'm gonna guess it was to make sure water did not get past the top seals of the shocks when he was pressure washing the whole deal?? Bingo! It was basically a way to protect the shock shafts from crap when the car was raced. QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Dec 29 2007, 02:09 PM) Yep, that's the easy way to change the plugs on one of those cars. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) With all the weight you pulled out of the front of that thing, I'd have been afraid of rolling the car off the lift backwards as the last bolt dropped out. Nice. Double-flaring, or bubble-flaring as a lot of the newer cars use, is not that difficult, as long as you have the right tools. I was a bit concerned as well but I watched the car pretty carefully as I lifted it up off the motor & trans and it stayed rock solid. QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Dec 29 2007, 02:21 PM) QUOTE (Bud M @ Dec 29 2007, 10:56 AM) What's the purpose of the covers on the front shocks? To keep debris off them. I can't remeber if they are inverted or not. No, they are right side up. The rears were inverted. |
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Dec 30 2007, 04:39 AM
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Grumpy Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,722 Joined: 1-January 04 From: Bakersfield CA Member No.: 81 |
QUOTE (NickS @ Dec 29 2007, 07:37 PM) QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Dec 28 2007, 11:52 PM) So Nick, do I have to watch you next year in AI (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/gr_driving3.gif) or are you sticking with your plan to make it a CMC car? I can only dream of the day I have a lift! I'm not 100% sure which way I"m going just yet. I"m fairly sure the modified radiator location is comming out. It was too much of a headache to get the air ducted in. I'mgoign to, at the very least, redo the radiator location. I've got to source a motor for it as well. Soooooo, we'll see which way the plasma cutter takes me when I stat to cut the radiator support off as well. -- Nick That means i'll be another spot back on the grid , but thats ok......... becuase it also means there will be an fbody at the front. I hope you bring back ol' #45, it was the first time I met you and Jason(I think) changing a PS pump on it. Correct me if i'm wrong Nick, but #45 is one of Jason's test mule's for alot of the stuff we all run now right? |
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Dec 30 2007, 03:33 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,511 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Homer Glen, IL Member No.: 540 |
What was the problem with the front breather the way it was setup with the radiator leaned forward? I was planning on doing that some time in the future but I'd like to know what trouble you ran into.
Oh, and if you convert it to a CMC car and are willing to sell the rear Penskes cheap, let me know (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Dec 31 2007, 05:40 AM
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Does not play well with others Group: Advanced Members Posts: 287 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 164 |
QUOTE That means i'll be another spot back on the grid , but thats ok......... becuase it also means there will be an fbody at the front. I hope you bring back ol' #45, it was the first time I met you and Jason(I think) changing a PS pump on it. Correct me if i'm wrong Nick, but #45 is one of Jason's test mule's for alot of the stuff we all run now right? Yep, that car had a lot the development stuff on it as did Jason's old 96 SS.. -- Nick |
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Dec 31 2007, 06:22 AM
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Does not play well with others Group: Advanced Members Posts: 287 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 164 |
QUOTE (nape @ Dec 30 2007, 10:33 AM) What was the problem with the front breather the way it was setup with the radiator leaned forward? I was planning on doing that some time in the future but I'd like to know what trouble you ran into. I'm not a 100% sure what the the problem was or if there was a problem at all to begin with. The radiator placement was a bit too far forward for my tastes tho. There wasn't a lot of 'crush' room up front with it laid out that way. I think its going to be a lot simpler to stand the radiator back up and put a bit more of a bumper in the front. QUOTE (nape @ Dec 30 2007, 10:33 AM) Oh, and if you convert it to a CMC car and are willing to sell the rear Penskes cheap, let me know (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) If it goes to CMC I most certainly won't close out the possibility of going back to AI so I'll hang onto the the AI stuff (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) -- Nick |
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Dec 31 2007, 02:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 311 Joined: 8-December 05 From: D/FW Tx Member No.: 1,005 |
Nick,
page 25 Feb. '08 issue. Last event, Llihrednuht, 4 off (up). GRM Stuck on You. Sticker (and air) got you in. UE signage BIGTIME. jb This post has been edited by jeffburch: Dec 31 2007, 02:31 PM |
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Dec 31 2007, 06:14 PM
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Does not play well with others Group: Advanced Members Posts: 287 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 164 |
QUOTE (jeffburch @ Dec 31 2007, 09:30 AM) Nick, page 25 Feb. '08 issue. Last event, Llihrednuht, 4 off (up). GRM Stuck on You. Sticker (and air) got you in. UE signage BIGTIME. jb SWEET! I think GRM takes a few extra days to make it to the left coast I guess. Hopefully mine shows up today. -- Nick |
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Dec 31 2007, 08:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 689 Joined: 8-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 1,201 |
QUOTE (NickS @ Dec 31 2007, 10:14 AM) QUOTE (jeffburch @ Dec 31 2007, 09:30 AM) Nick, page 25 Feb. '08 issue. Last event, Llihrednuht, 4 off (up). GRM Stuck on You. Sticker (and air) got you in. UE signage BIGTIME. jb SWEET! I think GRM takes a few extra days to make it to the left coast I guess. Hopefully mine shows up today. -- Nick I have my GRM, got it 5 days ago. I think they cancelled your subsciption (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) |
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Dec 31 2007, 08:56 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,511 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Homer Glen, IL Member No.: 540 |
QUOTE (NickS @ Dec 31 2007, 12:22 AM) I'm not a 100% sure what the the problem was or if there was a problem at all to begin with. The radiator placement was a bit too far forward for my tastes tho. There wasn't a lot of 'crush' room up front with it laid out that way. I think its going to be a lot simpler to stand the radiator back up and put a bit more of a bumper in the front. Thanks for the info. When you go to put a stock core support back in the car, would you mind weighing it? I'm trying to decide if it's worth the fabrication time for the weight removal. I'd really appreciate it. QUOTE (NickS @ Dec 31 2007, 12:22 AM) If it goes to CMC I most certainly won't close out the possibility of going back to AI so I'll hang onto the the AI stuff (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) -- Nick D'oh. Well, I had to try. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) |
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Dec 31 2007, 10:55 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 689 Joined: 8-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 1,201 |
QUOTE (nape @ Dec 31 2007, 12:56 PM) QUOTE (NickS @ Dec 31 2007, 12:22 AM) I'm not a 100% sure what the the problem was or if there was a problem at all to begin with. The radiator placement was a bit too far forward for my tastes tho. There wasn't a lot of 'crush' room up front with it laid out that way. I think its going to be a lot simpler to stand the radiator back up and put a bit more of a bumper in the front. Thanks for the info. When you go to put a stock core support back in the car, would you mind weighing it? I'm trying to decide if it's worth the fabrication time for the weight removal. I'd really appreciate it. 26 Pounds not including core support to lights bracket, core support to fender/bumper brackets. All together around 28-30 pounds. |
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Dec 31 2007, 11:56 PM
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Does not play well with others Group: Advanced Members Posts: 287 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 164 |
QUOTE (nape @ Dec 31 2007, 03:56 PM) Thanks for the info. When you go to put a stock core support back in the car, would you mind weighing it? I'm trying to decide if it's worth the fabrication time for the weight removal. I'd really appreciate it. I'll put a stock rad support in if it goes back to CMC. If its in AI I'll fab a Randy'esque setup. I recall from when we did all of this that we weighed everything we cut off and added up the weight of the 1" tubing we added and worked out that we saved 4lbs or something. Jason may still have the calcs or remember with a bit more clarity. -- N |
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Jan 18 2008, 04:36 PM
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Sponsor Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,438 Joined: 24-January 04 From: SoCal Member No.: 152 |
There have been three cars that had a lot of development stuff on them. This AI car, my '96 SM car and Casey Quinn's '98 ESP --> SM car.
BTW, the only reason we didn't invert the front shocks is that the spring purch wouldn't clear the front bar (hey Nick I think that still the 32mm bar off my '96). Jason S. |
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Jan 23 2008, 05:11 PM
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Does not play well with others Group: Advanced Members Posts: 287 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 164 |
QUOTE (Unbalanced Engineering @ Jan 18 2008, 11:36 AM) There have been three cars that had a lot of development stuff on them. This AI car, my '96 SM car and Casey Quinn's '98 ESP --> SM car. BTW, the only reason we didn't invert the front shocks is that the spring purch wouldn't clear the front bar (hey Nick I think that still the 32mm bar off my '96). Jason S. Oh that's right, I remember that now. Stupid swaybar! That would explain why I've got 3 x 32mm and 3 x 30mm bars. I couldn't figure out where that 3rd 32mm bar came from. I'll put it on the side next to the wheels. -- Nick |
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