[patred]

Sold.

This post has been edited by patred: Mar 18 2007, 10:36 PM

[wannafbody]

location?

[patred]

I'm near Baltimore, Md.

[sgarnett]

I wish I was sitting on $4K spare right now. Got any pics just to torture me?

[patred]

I wish I was sitting on $4K spare right now. Got any pics just to torture me?

(IMG:http://www.xecu.net/kiirenza/picture/atlanta/pats_cone.jpg)

From the Atlanta Pro Regatta last year. Karen seems to like this one for some reason. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rant.gif)

I'll try and dig up some more when I get home.

Pat

[CMC #37]

Rats! Wish this car was available when I bought the '91 Formula basket case!

[Sam Strano]

I'll just add that I think Pat's insane for doing this, especially for this price. If I had $4k handy I'd buy the damn thing. I've known the car for a while as it previously belonged to the guy who bought my '91 1LE. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Buy this car if you are at all interested in a 3rd gen.

[trackbird]

Pat, can I ask what you're replacing it with?

*looking under couch for $4k I misplaced*

[Sam Strano]

I'll add that I'm sure the front bar is a Hollow 36 (factory on this car) and not a 35... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[patred]

I'll add that I'm sure the front bar is a Hollow 36 (factory on this car) and not a 35... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Maybe I'll measure it tonight with a micrometer after I'm done attempting to JB Weld the hairline crack in the SE-R transmission. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Pat, can I ask what you're replacing it with?

I've kind of already replaced it (see avatar (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ). The Sentra may end up with close to the same whp as the Firebird had with the 305 while still being N/A. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But if I sell the Firebird, I'll be down to just the SE-R so I may get a truck for towing since I still have my trailer.

Pat

[trackbird]

I drove a Nissan Sentra SE-R the first year they were out and I wanted one badly. So, I understand fully.

[patred]

Let's see if I can avoid the red X's.

Pic from previous owner ... from the rear quarter panels forward it was rattle-can white:
(IMG:http://www.xecu.net/patred/patred/foumula_start.gif)

Early in '03 at VMP just after it was painted (note: these are the stock rims that are on the car now):
(IMG:http://www.xecu.net/patred/patred/foumula3.gif)

Last year (about 2K miles ago) at Ripken Stadium:
(IMG:http://www.xecu.net/patred/patred/foumula1.gif)

Same day as above at Ripken with Karen driving and Jason Burns riding shotgun feeling the power of the F Body:
(IMG:http://www.xecu.net/patred/patred/foumula2.gif)

Loser with a LB9 thirdgen gets a holeshot on the LT1 (hi Brian!):
(IMG:http://www.xecu.net/patred/patred/leaveonthelastyellow.jpg)

Only driven on Sundays:
(IMG:http://www.xecu.net/patred/patred/foumula4.gif)

[BigEnos]

Wow, thanks Pat. Now I have *another* picture of my car from the ProSolo I won that year!

(IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif)

[rpoz-29]

I posted your car in the classfied ads on VMSC's website. If I had one fewer toys, I would buy it. Good luck with it, I'm talking it up.

[patred]

I posted your car in the classfied ads on VMSC's website. If I had one fewer toys, I would buy it. Good luck with it, I'm talking it up.

Thanks ... if I still have it, I'll probably bring it to the next NASA autocross at VMP.

Pat

P.S. It's Griffith, as in Andy and Melanie. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[ESPCamaro]

Well Pat are you looking to just get rid of it or round up some cash.

I'd be willing to work out a trade. And build a pseudo Madarash-mobile.

[rpoz-29]

Oops, I wondered about that. I had a 50/50 chance of screwing it up! BTW, how is it as a street car? Did you ever dyno it?

[patred]

BTW, how is it as a street car? Did you ever dyno it?

It's fine as a street car. The springs aren't much stiffer than stock (and I think a little softer in the rear). I was going to experiment with a little bit stiffer springs in front.

It has the dual cats (which I replaced a couple years ago), AIR tubes, EGR, etc so it has all the emissions stuff intact.

I didn't get around to dynoing it with the new long block. It did make 209 whp and 275 wtq with the 305. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Pat

[souseless]

I cant buy the car since My wife will not allow me to have two cars to take up my time, but I was wondering about your front springs. I have the ground control set up with 750# front sprins (8") and I am having a bit of trouble with the car being too low for local driving. What length are your front springs? I need to have Sam get me some new ones for next season.

[patred]

Even Boltman could go fast in it. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[35th_Anniversary...]

I tried, but the 3rd gens are a bit harder to drive than even the 4th gens... It drove really good, I just screwed up once or twice in the heavy braking zones on a couple of my runs. Not too hard to just jump into and drive though. Thanks for the ride.

[trackbird]

Wait, so did Boltman not go fast in it? :leaving: Is Pat engaging in false advertising? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rant.gif) We need the story....how fast did Boltman go? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif)

[patred]

Wait, so did Boltman not go fast in it? :leaving: Is Pat engaging in false advertising? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rant.gif) We need the story....how fast did Boltman go? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif)

He went faster than the car owner ...
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of the exact same type of F Body he owns! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif)

Pat

[35th_Anniversary...]

I was close to Pat... about 2 tenths or so until his last run... then he put some time on me (7 tenths?)
But like I said, I screwed up in the heavy braking zones due to unfamiliarity with the car. Whoever buys the car should be able to get used to it with some seat time. I've just never driven a 3rd gen before and never had to worry about slowing down from speed without the aid of ABS.

[35th_Anniversary...]

still for sale?

[patred]

Deleted info describing parts that no longer come with the car.

This post has been edited by patred: May 7 2006, 06:36 PM

[nape]

Damn, this better not still be around at the end of the summer otherwise I may end up with a one-way plane ticket and a 700 mile drive home. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

[CMC #37]

"Back away from the keyboard, NOW!" (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rant2.gif) - Jules' husband! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[slowTA]

<---- If I didn't have this orange dust collector, I would have a white one instead.

At least mine has a solid roof (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[CMC90]

Hi Pat,

I left you a voice mail. I'm interested in buying your car. Please give me a call.

Thanks,

Chris

[98_1LE]

Would it make a good daily driver?

Four days of daily driving my T/A, err fatboy climbing over the roll bar, has me thinking I need a fun daily.

[patred]

Would it make a good daily driver?

Maybe not during the middle of summer in Texas (no AC). (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Pat

[98_1LE]

That would be a deal killer. Thanks, and good luck.

[CMC #37]

You couldn't find an AC unit and install it? Seems like the boneyards are full of these. I have one or two units laying around here taken out of CMC 3rd gens.

[SS2win]

pm sent... let me know if it sold.

[trackbird]

One more time before I part it out and sell the car without most of the suspension goodies (as in no weight jacker kit, T2R ... stock torque arm, panhard bar re-installed). If the car's not gone by this weekend, the stuff's coming off. I figure an easy $1,500 worth of parts can be sold, and I can still unload the car for more than $2K.

Pat

Pat, you're killing me. Really killing me.

Let me talk to my wife.....again...... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif)

What and how many wheels come with this thing?

[patred]

What and how many wheels come with this thing?

It just has the stock 16" wheels. I sold the 17's already.

Pat

[trackbird]

I could write a check for it right now, but I would likely wind up divorced.

I'm trying to work out what/how long it would take me to gather cash through alternate means (play money funds, selling off some items I don't need, etc). I don't think I'm going to be fast enough for you (but I might be interested in discussing it).

Don't ask me why I waited this long to decide that I should buy this car. But I'm still thinking of parting with my 4th gen and buying this, installing the AC and driving it daily for a while. That would get rid of my car payment and allow me to focus on land and a new house (one of the next plans on the list).

[nape]

Still, I would love to say yes to buying it, but I'm not quite there yet on the cash. How's the floor in her, rust-wise?

I'm at least interested in the rear end depending on price.

Like I said, if it was the end of the summer. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rant.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

*wants another 3rd gen daily... very badly*

This post has been edited by nape: Apr 19 2006, 09:33 PM

[y5e06]

If you part it out let me know how much you want for the T2R. I need one....

[patred]

How's the floor in her, rust-wise?

No rust problems at all. Maybe light surface rust that could be sanded away by hand. Seriously, the only major rust issue is the T-top pilar, and that's a bolt-in piece. I've never considered rust an issue on this car.

Pat

[SS2win]

still thinking I could meet you in the carolina's but it's a long drive for both of us... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

[SuperBeetle]

Hey Pat,

Would you take a thousand bucks and my Caprice wagon? I'll bring you the wagon and drive the Firebird home. Alternately, find somebody to buy my wagon for anything about $2k and we have a deal.

[patred]

Hey Pat,

Would you take a thousand bucks and my Caprice wagon? I'll bring you the wagon and drive the Firebird home. Alternately, find somebody to buy my wagon for anything about $2k and we have a deal.

Is it an LT1 wagon? I've always kinda wanted one, especially if it has wood paneling. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Other than that, I'm not looking for trades right now. Also keep in mind that much of the stuff has already been sold (weight jackers went out yesterday, panhard bar and STB were sold, T2R is out of the car and will be in the mail shortly, had someone interested in the headers) so it will be much closer to stock. About the only thing it will be is a clean Firebird with a 350 and T5.

(I've updated the add to what's currently on the car.)

Pat

[trackbird]

Hey Pat,

Would you take a thousand bucks and my Caprice wagon? I'll bring you the wagon and drive the Firebird home. Alternately, find somebody to buy my wagon for anything about $2k and we have a deal.

Is it an LT1 wagon? I've always kinda wanted one, especially if it has wood paneling. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Pat

I've seen the wagon, it's an LT1 "woody" wagon, that is correct. (Superbeetle was my "stand-in" co-driver for the last two events of last year).

[patred]

I've seen the wagon, it's an LT1 "woody" wagon, that is correct. (Superbeetle was my "stand-in" co-driver for the last two events of last year).

What kind of condition is it in? Rust, paint, mileage, etc, etc. If Superbeet has any current pics, that'd be great (e-mail is patred48 "at" verizon.net). I've seriously considered an LT1 Caprice/Roadmaster wagon or light duty truck once the Firebird is gone.

Pat

[trackbird]

I've seen the wagon, it's an LT1 "woody" wagon, that is correct. (Superbeetle was my "stand-in" co-driver for the last two events of last year).

What kind of condition is it in? Rust, paint, mileage, etc, etc. If Superbeet has any current pics, that'd be great (e-mail is patred48 "at" verizon.net). I've seriously considered an LT1 Caprice/Roadmaster wagon or light duty truck once the Firebird is gone.

Pat

Honestly, it's like a 50,000-ish (50 and change?) wagon bought from a little old lady (as I remember). It is in very good shape from what I've seen.

[Mericet]

He has some picures here: http://www.squidcar.com/carimages/bubble/tablepage.html

Those were taken just after he bought the car.

[patred]

He has some picures here: http://www.squidcar.com/carimages/bubble/tablepage.html

Those were taken just after he bought the car.

Is the LT1 Caprice in the garage?

Pat

[trackbird]

He has some picures here: http://www.squidcar.com/carimages/bubble/tablepage.html

Those were taken just after he bought the car.

Is the LT1 Caprice in the garage?

Pat

I believe the 911 and a Phaeton have the garage filled up.....

[patred]

I believe the 911 and a Phaeton have the garage filled up.....

So where's the LT1 Caprice wagon? It certainly isn't in those pics.

Pat

[trackbird]

I believe the 911 and a Phaeton have the garage filled up.....

So where's the LT1 Caprice wagon? It certainly isn't in those pics.

Pat

Crap, I thought that was an LT1 car......

[SuperBeetle]

I believe the 911 and a Phaeton have the garage filled up.....

So where's the LT1 Caprice wagon? It certainly isn't in those pics.

Pat

Crap, I thought that was an LT1 car......

Hi patred,

Kevin and Neil probably remember me buying the car. At that point it was represented to me as an LT1 Caprice. It is not; the VIN indicates it is a 205hp L05 350 with four-speed automatic. One deceased owner prior to me. It's in sound shape and I have driven it on a couple multi-hundred-mile jaunts. At the moment it has 53,600 miles. New brake master cylinder, serpentine belt, transmission flush/fill, PCV valve. It's a light oil leaker - about a 2-inch circle any time it sits for a while - and needs an A/C recharge. Cruise works, power seats work, autodim mirror works.

As it sits, it is probably worth $3-4K. I could eBay it but I am leaving for One Lap of America, followed by a tour of Germany, and I wouldn't be able to collect any cash until mid-May. If you think you want to make a deal, let me know and we can take care of it Wednesday/Thursday. Thanks!

[patred]

Updated price. Most of the suspension is stock now except for some bushings here and there. Has an Auburn differential that I used to win F-Stock at the Northeast Divisional last year. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotflmao.gif)

Pat

[patred]

[sigh] Still for sale.

[98_1LE]

the mullet is strong with this one. It might sell tomorrow (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[mitchntx]

the mullet is strong with this one. It might sell tomorrow (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

That's funny, right there ... I don't care who ya are ...

[patred]

Can somebody lock this thread, please? Seriously. If I get one more "I'm really interested" IM/e-mail/phone call from here from somebody who just wants to waste my time, I'm going to just drive the car off a cliff and collect the insurance.

[rautox]

Can somebody lock this thread, please? Seriously. If I get one more "I'm really interested" IM/e-mail/phone call from here from somebody who just wants to waste my time, I'm going to just drive the car off a cliff and collect the insurance.

OK, the firebird hits the mr2 which is towing the kart, there's a huge fireball, profit! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[patred]

Sold.

[cccbock]

Sold.

Excellent!
Bock

[marka]

Howdy,

Sold.

:-)

Mark

[patred]

Howdy,

Sold.

:-)

Mark

I think Sam was kinda disappointed he didn't end up with the car, but he's still coming out a winner in the deal. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Pat

[marka]

Howdy,

I think Sam was kinda disappointed he didn't end up with the car, but he's still coming out a winner in the deal. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Yeah. I think he got an order already. :-)

We're gonna have to find the themesong to KnightRider to play on the PA when the car is at the line though...

Mark

[trackbird]

Who bought it?

I was really going to take it, but I decided to spend more for a local car that has an engine in it that I built for myself. I wanted my engine back, and the 92Z hardtop is a nice wrapper. Glad you found a home for it Pat.

[KeithO]

A local guy bought it. He had always been a Neon/Honda/MR2 kind of a guy. A couple of years back, he co-drove my old LS1 F-Stock Camaro and I know that he has driven Sam S.'s ESP car as well. V8, rwd can be very addictive.
...I can still remember my old LS1 car going through (and I mean through) the course timing lights when he tried it. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif)

[rickshank]

Yep, that was me. Keith tried very hard to lure me to the "dark side" years ago with the FS co-drive (up until then, I had a decently prepped STS Civic SI [before they were cool (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ] and a half-built EP CRX. I don't think I actually took the lights out that day with the Camaro, but I was pretty close. Apparently, the throttle in those cars isn't quite the on-off switch that it was in the STS car.

The "new to me" car will be an ESP ride, mostly for local events until I finish the "new" EP CRX. I've got several items on order with Sam already, so the incoming parts list is: T2R (backorder for 4 weeks..ugh), "Wonder bar" steering brace, Hawk pads at all corners, adjustable panhard bar, and Ground Control weightjackers/coilover kit. I've already spent more than the car was listed at with all of the old parts still on it. Even so, I still think the car was a pretty good deal, just based on the rebuilt L98 matched to a T5.

Next up is wheels. I've searched the site some, but I'll add a post dedicated to that hunt.

Oh yeah...the car wasn't aligned after pulling the previous spring/weightjacker combo off, so the car is a handful at about 45 mph or so on the seriously crowned roads in my area. It'll stay mostly parked until I can get the new springs back on and get an alignment.

Anyone have a spare Knight Rider front light bar for sale? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[KeithO]

Congrats, Ricky. I look forward to seeing the car (again) at an event.

[patred]

If you're interested, Ricky, if the GC weight jackers you ordered are on back order, the F-Body shop near me (FBodyCentral.com) has a new weight jacker kit on the shelf for $250. Not sure what springs are with it -- the fronts are blue with no markings but look pretty stout and the rears have no markings but look almost exactly like the rear springs I got with my weight jacker kit. Again, everything is brand new and shiny and has never been on a car. I could get the measurements on the springs since I'm going back up there in the next day or two.

Pat

[rickshank]

My GC stuff might already be on it's way. Thanks anyways (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[BigEnos]

My GC stuff might already be on it's way. Thanks anyways (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Good purchase, Rick. Looking forward to seeing you and it at some events this year. Always good to have more competitors in ESP.