[Chris 96 WS6]

I am pretty sure there are a number of people here with dedicated cars that have done this. I need to remove my passenger side airbag but have absolutely NO idea how to do it. could anyone point me in the right direction or give me a blow by blow on how it is done. I would REALLY appreciate any info on how I could get this done. Preferably without removing the dash.


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Boyce

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ledfoot2 Posted: Mar 29 2004, 08:51 PM



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Good question, I would like to know as well.

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Makes 3. I was wondering about losing the drivers bag as well, without setting off all sorts of DTC's etc.
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It is a pain in the ass. If you have a Helms it is nine tenths of a pain in the ass.

Be prepared to be one step away from removing the dash/instrument cluster from the car and separating the HV/AC ducting from the back of the dash. The airbag/frame width is from the edge of the L side of the dash to just R of the glove box.

Since there are many subassemblies jumping through the Helms is a chore, but there are some tips and tricks in the Helms.

I do not know how many hrs I spent on the removal. However, I am certain I probably spend a lot more hrs on any one project than most people. I would give yourself at least 2 days to complete so you have recovery time from the contortions and scraped forearms [wear gloves]

The airbag support is also there to support the dash. There is a trick to retain a good part of that support on lost on the passenger side of the dash with some ties designed for fixing aftermarket transmission coolers to the radiator [sounds like a kludge, but it worked very well].

Does anyone know if a resistor will keep the airbag light in an off state? It will come on and stay on when the bags are unplugged.

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ledfoot2 Posted: Apr 5 2004, 08:33 PM



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I saw something where a resister would keep the light off. Maybe a 2 ohm? Not sure.

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NataSS Inc Posted: Apr 6 2004, 09:47 AM



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yes a 2 ohm resistor will keep the light off.

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QUOTE (DryStout @ Apr 5 2004, 08:09 PM)
It is a pain in the ass. If you have a Helms it is nine tenths of a pain in the ass.

Be prepared to be one step away from removing the dash/instrument cluster from the car and separating the HV/AC ducting from the back of the dash. The airbag/frame width is from the edge of the L side of the dash to just R of the glove box.

Since there are many subassemblies jumping through the Helms is a chore, but there are some tips and tricks in the Helms.

I do not know how many hrs I spent on the removal. However, I am certain I probably spend a lot more hrs on any one project than most people. I would give yourself at least 2 days to complete so you have recovery time from the contortions and scraped forearms [wear gloves]

The airbag support is also there to support the dash. There is a trick to retain a good part of that support on lost on the passenger side of the dash with some ties designed for fixing aftermarket transmission coolers to the radiator [sounds like a kludge, but it worked very well].

Does anyone know if a resistor will keep the airbag light in an off state? It will come on and stay on when the bags are unplugged.

So it is possible to get it out WITHOUT pulling the dash?

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My car is painfully slow
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Bellevue WA
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DryStout Posted: Apr 6 2004, 12:08 PM



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QUOTE (NataSS Inc @ Apr 6 2004, 10:49 AM)
QUOTE (DryStout @ Apr 5 2004, 08:09 PM)
It is a pain in the ass. If you have a Helms it is nine tenths of a pain in the ass.

Be prepared to be one step away from removing the dash/instrument cluster from the car and separating the HV/AC ducting from the back of the dash. The airbag/frame width is from the edge of the L side of the dash to just R of the glove box.

Since there are many subassemblies jumping through the Helms is a chore, but there are some tips and tricks in the Helms.

I do not know how many hrs I spent on the removal. However, I am certain I probably spend a lot more hrs on any one project than most people. I would give yourself at least 2 days to complete so you have recovery time from the contortions and scraped forearms [wear gloves]

The airbag support is also there to support the dash. There is a trick to retain a good part of that support on lost on the passenger side of the dash with some ties designed for fixing aftermarket transmission coolers to the radiator [sounds like a kludge, but it worked very well].

Does anyone know if a resistor will keep the airbag light in an off state? It will come on and stay on when the bags are unplugged.

So it is possible to get it out WITHOUT pulling the dash?

It sure is. You have to get every thing loose, unbolt the steering wheel supports, etc

BTW note the URL for this thread:

http://mtfba.org/rrforum/index.php?&act=Po...=1&t=871&p=9814

It is not FRRAX.com - bad news - Note if you go to the frrax site, you will NOT see this thread!

[DryStout]

the bar that goes directly in front of the dash.  I cant move the dash.  I need to know if there is any way I can get that bag out WITHOUT pulling the dash.  I have heard that the little cover on the dash that goes over the bag can be pulled off.  Can I get to the bag from there?

I do not think it is possible in your case to remove the bag and its support. Open the glove box; see the screws on the left and right side. That marks the width of the airbag support. The screws are in the support. More is to be seen if you take the glove box off.

If all you want is the bag, I am suggesting that you be prepared to hack on the dash. The panel that you are talking about appears glued in place [I just looked at it from the bottom]. At the top there is a tough mesh that maintains control of the panel during deployment. Otherwise panel is a projectile. There are 4 hex head sheet metal screws that hold the airbag and carrier to the airbag support.

The dash moved towards the back of the car and down for me to get it out. The sad story is it looks like it would have been comparatively easy to get the airbag and support out of there before the cage working and when working on the steering wheel.

I just measured the airbag support and it is an odd shaped piece:
13.75 at max height
10.25 at max depth
15.5 at max width