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CMC#5
post May 9 2007, 09:02 PM
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Now that things are starting to settle down here in our new home, we broke ground on the GarageMahal.

Any suggestions/tips from those that know much more than I ever will about electricity and other shop essentials? Keep it simple, essential and wonderland arent the same (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Specifically I'm looking for advice on # of circuits and size, as well as floor and wall paint/coating/covering options.

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post May 11 2007, 10:11 PM
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Al - Some random thoughts:

Bench space - I've got 14' of stainless benchtop - the stuff is about indestructable and cleans up easy. Look for a restaraunt or food service salvage. New is crazy expensive.

15" deep shelving about 18" above the benches - just below eye level. They are filled with stuff that gets used often, helps to relieve clutter on the benchtop. I've extended the shelving past the benches and around the corner where my welding table sits. The table is "in the round" and power tools just a step away.

Power - 4plex on the ceiling above the welding table, a 8outlet power strip on the shelf support near the welding table, and a duplex every 4' on the bench wall. NOT ENOUGH OUTLETS! duplex should be 4plex, and every 3' along the benches. Outlet height is just under the shelf, so about shoulder level - this is the ideal height - above the bench clutter, no stooping to reach.

Air - I'm leasing, so just use 1/2" rubber air hose for the main line with a couple of T's with disconnects to make the drops. For permanent I'd use 3/4" black pipe. I have 3 drops in the shop - a 50' at one end, a 25' at the welding table (short so it isn't underfoot all the time), and another 50' at the other end of the shop, hung on a lift post. Reels on all of them would be nice, but I just hang them in long loops off a hook.

Lighting - in a roughly 30'x30' space with 8' ceiling I have 3 rows of T8 fixtures - 34 4' bulbs, and it is pretty good. I have a small halogen under the shelf at the bench nearest the drill press, and the drill press has a light that is on most of the time.
Walls/ceilings are white. The low ceiling helps the lighting, and there is a loft overhead for storage.
In the 18x35' lift bay there are about 16 4' T8 bulbs about 12' up under a 16' ceiling, and it is enough to find the cars but not
enough to work on them without spot lighting. No natural light gets in the shop and that is kind of oppressive - I'd like at least a small window or skylight to give a clue if it is day or night outside.

Sink - I've got a utility sink in the shop, next to the parts washer. I use it a dozen times a day. Bathroom is around the corner thru a door - I like having the sink separate fom the bathroom so I don't get doors filthy on the way to the sink.

Ditto on the epoxy floor coating - use the good industrial stuff, and do it before you get too settled. I did the coating in my last shop - big job but worthwhile. I did not take the time to do it in this shop and now regret it.

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CMC#5   its all about the garage   May 9 2007, 09:02 PM
marka   Howdy, How big will the shop be? How many folks ...   May 9 2007, 09:30 PM
CMC#5   Good point...a few details. Its 40x45 with a good ...   May 9 2007, 10:22 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 9 2007, 06:22 ...   May 10 2007, 03:17 PM
z28tt   How large of a power feed will you have? I'd e...   May 9 2007, 10:56 PM
rmackintosh   Well....there you go Al...you ACTUALLY found ONE t...   May 9 2007, 11:31 PM
SSTAT   While I cant comment on all the hieroglyphics abov...   May 10 2007, 12:23 AM
wdtiger   I have nothing to add. I would just like to add my...   May 10 2007, 12:45 AM
mitchntx   How many outlets? Decide on paper and double it. H...   May 10 2007, 01:07 AM
cccbock   Every one of Mitch's and Andris' suggestio...   May 10 2007, 01:40 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (mitchntx @ May 9 2007, 09...   May 10 2007, 03:36 PM
mitchntx   Bathroom over a beer fridge? I need to see your m...   May 10 2007, 01:47 AM
cccbock   QUOTE (mitchntx @ May 9 2007, 08:47 PM) B...   May 10 2007, 11:08 AM
Eugenio_SS   as mentionned, make sure you have lots of lighting...   May 10 2007, 12:27 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ May 10 2007, 07:27 AM...   May 10 2007, 02:27 PM
mitchntx   RE: its all about the garage   May 10 2007, 12:51 PM
BigEnos   If you're worried about security (and you shou...   May 10 2007, 03:51 PM
Powerslide91   Random thoughts: My experience from building my sh...   May 10 2007, 04:04 PM
CMC#5   Wow, a ton of excellent advice! I figured ther...   May 10 2007, 04:54 PM
cccbock   QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 10 2007, 11:54 AM) 3) ...   May 10 2007, 05:27 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 10 2007, 12:54...   May 10 2007, 05:52 PM
pknowles   QUOTE (marka @ May 10 2007, 01:52 PM) Fol...   May 10 2007, 11:20 PM
Powerslide91   QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 10 2007, 11:54 AM) 1) ...   May 10 2007, 09:38 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (Powerslide91 @ May 10 2007, 04:38 ...   May 11 2007, 03:46 PM
AllZWay   You should visit Mitch's Warren Motorsports Co...   May 10 2007, 06:38 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (AllZWay @ May 10 2007, 01:38 PM) I...   May 10 2007, 07:22 PM
roadracetransam   Put skylights! They sell nice circular ones a...   May 10 2007, 08:37 PM
mitchntx   Remember guys ... this is Texas. Front and rear do...   May 10 2007, 09:47 PM
firehawkclone   I would also do the awning/overhang outside for th...   May 10 2007, 10:40 PM
mitchntx   I used black iron natural gas line.   May 10 2007, 11:22 PM
AndyB   I'm a license electrician in California so hop...   May 11 2007, 01:22 AM
slowTA   So who has info about a 220V GFCI? Out of necessi...   May 11 2007, 01:37 AM
AndyB   QUOTE (slowTA @ May 10 2007, 08:37 PM) So...   May 11 2007, 02:58 AM
z28tt   The price of copper has gone through the roof, whe...   May 11 2007, 01:41 PM
DavidDymaxion   Some more ideas: Do a 240V central vac rather tha...   May 11 2007, 03:39 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (z28tt @ May 11 2007, 08:41 AM) A 2...   May 20 2007, 08:49 PM
Blainefab   Al - Some random thoughts: Bench space - I'v...   May 11 2007, 10:11 PM
cccbock   QUOTE (Blainefab @ May 11 2007, 05:11 PM)...   May 11 2007, 10:39 PM
firehawkclone   This was posted awhile back on here http://www.ult...   May 12 2007, 04:02 PM
v7guy   I've also found this site useful http://www.ga...   May 15 2007, 05:43 PM
bsim   <<--- Jealous.   May 16 2007, 01:38 AM
CMC#5   Just move Brad! Man you guys have my head ...   May 16 2007, 05:37 PM
pkincy   Big Al, Real Estate and acreage is a bit more man...   May 26 2007, 09:00 PM
CMC#5   Perry! Good to hear from you! You guys are...   May 29 2007, 07:01 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 29 2007, 03:01...   May 29 2007, 08:25 PM
Glenn98ZM6   why wood?   May 29 2007, 08:14 PM
CMC#5   Glenn...I struck a deal with the guy that built ou...   May 29 2007, 09:59 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 29 2007, 04:59 PM) I p...   May 30 2007, 12:25 AM
slowTA   Wow... rough crowd! To follow suit I'll a...   May 29 2007, 10:07 PM
CMC#5   Well, the front of the house has several sort of s...   May 30 2007, 12:25 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 30 2007, 07:25 AM) Wel...   May 30 2007, 01:27 PM

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