[slowTA]

I found a black on black, 6 speed, 18K mile, 2005 GTO locally and I'm very interested in it. I've read online that there are some suspension issues with the car, some parts are pretty odd and have to come from down under, they're almost the red headed step children of the service centers. I guess I'm asking if the problems are wide spread, only on the '04 models, or are exaggerated by 'internet information'.

While at the dealer I drove an '08 Malibu. The salesman (fellow gearhead) said it is such a better car than the previous versions that it shouldn't be called a Malibu. I agree. It has a great ride and more power than you would expect. It was raining so I didn't get a full appreciation for all the power. The transmission seemed to shift nicely (6 speed paddle shifted automatic) and wasn't clunky on the downshift, just kinda slow.

Also, when you search for GTO on this board it comes up empty. I found the post by 2000Z-71 because I remembered his GTO was hit by a suburban.

[slowTA]

Ummm... yeah there was no negotiating for the price of the Aura, but we went back and forth a little with the trade in. My 2000 Malibu had 118K miles and they said the book value was $875, but would give me $1500. We finally settled on $2500.

The only downside to buying a Saturn is that they don't take the points from my GM card. I had a whole $600+ I could have used.

[roadracetransam]

Ummm... yeah there was no negotiating for the price of the Aura, but we went back and forth a little with the trade in. My 2000 Malibu had 118K miles and they said the book value was $875, but would give me $1500. We finally settled on $2500.

The only downside to buying a Saturn is that they don't take the points from my GM card. I had a whole $600+ I could have used.

Saturn is GM always has been. Not taking GM points is BS.

[dailydriver]

Ummm... yeah there was no negotiating for the price of the Aura, but we went back and forth a little with the trade in. My 2000 Malibu had 118K miles and they said the book value was $875, but would give me $1500. We finally settled on $2500.

The only downside to buying a Saturn is that they don't take the points from my GM card. I had a whole $600+ I could have used.

Saturn is GM always has been. Not taking GM points is BS.

I agree. This is the only place they seem to have fallen down in this deal.
I guess they are trying to claim that Saturn is a separate entity/company from GM (like they did in the beginning), a la Saab/Hummer, etc. It's crazy, but my brother got all of his discount points counted when he bought his '06 C6 Vette (even though there was talk some time back of making Corvette it's OWN separate company from Chevrolet).