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vanwyk4257
post Mar 21 2008, 03:37 PM
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Well, I received the blessing from my wife last weekend to go ahead and build a garage out back (it might have helped that I have two F-bodies in the garage at the moment and she's parking outside (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) ) so I am trying to work out the details on design, size, layout et al.

I am thinking of doing a 24x30 with 12'foot walls to allow me enough height to install a 2 or 4-post lift down the road.

My thought is to put a 16x8 overhead door off to one side of the 30ft. wall which will face the house and then have a 3ft. steel service/entry door as well.

I want to have room to park two cars inside and still have a decent workshop space for working on engines, etc.

I do plan to insulate the entire building and will be running natural gas and electricity (110V only most likely) to it. Heat will be from a 90%+ efficiency furnace, i.e., forced air (my dad's in the business so I can get one cheap).
I also plan to finish the interior walls and ceiling with OSB as opposed to drywall just because it will be easier to live with, i.e., I can bang into it with tools, parts etc. without doing any real damage, and if I do manage to punch a hole in a sheet it will be easier to replace. Finally, I am anticipating putting a loft area in the trusses for storage with a pull-down ladder.

I am looking or any input with regard to the size (I know you can never build too large) based on the aforementioned parameters, will it be large enough?

Also, I would welcome any advice or input with regard to layout etc.

Thanks in advance for the input guys!
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vanwyk4257
post Mar 22 2008, 02:01 AM
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Wow, lots of good ideas, thanks guys!

I can technically only build up to a three car garage according to the bylaws, which is pretty vague, but I don't want to run afoul of the neigborhood either. I will probably figure out how big I can go and push the envelope as much as I dare within my budget. I definitely plan on pouring a pad next to the garage to park my trailer on. I'm not going to bother with a floor drain since I won't need to wash a car in the garage. Running water would be nice, but we're on a well and it would be a pain to run water from the house out to the garage. Frankly if I need to wash parts I'll just run up to the garage on the house where I have running water and a floor drain. A basement under the garage would kill my budget, and probably wouldn't fly here anyway. I do plan on using probably a 6/12 pitch truss so I have some decent loft/storage space for stuff to keep it out of the garage.

This garage will be for car stuff only, the snowblower, lawn tractor et all would all stay in the attached garage on the house.

I do think I will probably do one overhead door, and will probably put in at least one window so I can throw a window air conditioner in if it get's really warm, but for the most part I can just open the overhead door if it gets really warm. For security and just for the neighbor's viewing pleasure I will keep the overhead door, service door and window all on the side of the garage facing my house, it will be easier to keep an eye on that way. I'll probably put a couple of motion detecting lights on the front corners of the garage to deter anybody from snooping around, plus there's a street light close by so the area is pretty well lit as it is. The nice thing is I will be able to drive right from my driveway across a short stretch of lawn to get to the garage so getting in and out will be easy with no real hills to drive up or over.

I may be putting the plan to build on hold however if a piece of property I'm looking at is priced right. It's 4-5 acres and would allow me to build a nice house and a substantially larger garage/shop later on, plus I could plan for all of it right up front at the construction phase so we'll see what happens. I plan on sorting it out one way or the other within the next month or so.

Again, thanks for all the input guys, it is very helpful! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Mar 22 2008, 03:31 AM
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QUOTE (vanwyk4257 @ Mar 21 2008, 09:01 PM) *
I'll probably put a couple of motion detecting lights on the front corners of the garage to deter anybody from snooping around


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Lights that come on that make it easier for burglars to spot the good stuff. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 22 2008, 03:39 AM
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QUOTE (mitchntx @ Mar 21 2008, 11:31 PM) *
QUOTE (vanwyk4257 @ Mar 21 2008, 09:01 PM) *
I'll probably put a couple of motion detecting lights on the front corners of the garage to deter anybody from snooping around


Translation:

Lights that come on that make it easier for burglars to spot the good stuff. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


You mean the lights that make it easier for me to draw a bead on them with my pistol! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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vanwyk4257   Need input on garage layout   Mar 21 2008, 03:37 PM
zlexiss   Get a 220v feed if possible. Air compressors, wel...   Mar 21 2008, 08:50 PM
cccbock   QUOTE (zlexiss @ Mar 21 2008, 04:50 PM) G...   Mar 21 2008, 09:27 PM
vanwyk4257   Thanks for the input guys. I'll check into 22...   Mar 21 2008, 10:02 PM
mitchntx   Opinions ... we all have a different one. I opted...   Mar 21 2008, 10:11 PM
slowTA   If I ever get the opportunity to build my own gara...   Mar 21 2008, 10:21 PM
Rob Hood   Consider trailer movement and parking when decidin...   Mar 22 2008, 01:15 AM
gopanoz   A working kitchen sink in the garage has been supe...   Mar 22 2008, 01:27 AM
Mericet   Somewhere in the planning try and add a separate (...   Mar 22 2008, 01:56 AM
vanwyk4257   Wow, lots of good ideas, thanks guys! I can t...   Mar 22 2008, 02:01 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (vanwyk4257 @ Mar 21 2008, 09:01 PM...   Mar 22 2008, 03:31 AM
vanwyk4257   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Mar 21 2008, 11:31 PM) ...   Mar 22 2008, 03:39 AM
mitchntx   RE: Need input on garage layout   Mar 22 2008, 04:18 AM
Eugenio_SS   since there was mention of garage door opening, th...   Mar 22 2008, 06:26 AM
v7guy   I can say that a sink in the garage to clean up be...   Mar 23 2008, 09:51 AM
cccbock   QUOTE (v7guy @ Mar 23 2008, 05:51 AM) I c...   Mar 23 2008, 03:11 PM
1qwikbird   QUOTE (cccbock @ Mar 23 2008, 11:11 AM) Q...   Mar 23 2008, 11:13 PM
1qwikbird   Having helped a buddy build his shop (28x32 with 1...   Mar 23 2008, 01:52 PM
T.O.Dillinder   24 x 30 is the size of my garage. It is also 2 sto...   Mar 25 2008, 04:22 AM
vanwyk4257   QUOTE (T.O.Dillinder @ Mar 25 2008, 12:22...   Mar 25 2008, 11:48 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (vanwyk4257 @ Mar 25 2008, 06:48 AM...   Mar 25 2008, 12:53 PM
vanwyk4257   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Mar 25 2008, 08:53 AM) ...   Mar 25 2008, 02:13 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (vanwyk4257 @ Mar 25 2008, 09:13 AM...   Mar 25 2008, 02:57 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (vanwyk4257 @ Mar 25 2008, 09:13 AM...   Mar 25 2008, 03:08 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (vanwyk4257 @ Mar 25 2008, 07...   Mar 25 2008, 04:03 PM
00 SS   I will be building a new shop one of these days as...   Mar 25 2008, 03:33 PM
vanwyk4257   24ft. is the depth. I could potentially go a bit ...   Mar 25 2008, 08:19 PM
00 SS   Gas heat is, as you state, is about 90% efficient ...   Mar 25 2008, 11:29 PM
Wayno   Mount your heater up near the ceiling so that it d...   Mar 26 2008, 06:47 AM
vanwyk4257   QUOTE (Wayno @ Mar 26 2008, 02:47 AM) Mou...   Mar 26 2008, 01:36 PM
marka   Howdy, Common gas garage heater: http://hot-dawg....   Mar 26 2008, 03:43 PM
marka   Howdy, Heater sizing, from McMaster: QUOTE Heat O...   Mar 26 2008, 03:52 PM
00 SS   The formula is simple: BTUH = U x A x delta T U=...   Mar 26 2008, 04:09 PM
vanwyk4257   Wow, somebody stayed at a Holiday Inn last night...   Mar 26 2008, 06:14 PM
00 SS   Sorry, when you are an engineer, it's hard to ...   Mar 26 2008, 06:55 PM
vanwyk4257   Many of my friends are engineers, so I've lear...   Mar 26 2008, 09:38 PM
rushman   Do the 220v for sure. Also, if you are burying th...   Mar 26 2008, 09:54 PM
z28tt   Ditto on the 220V. Your future air compressor, wel...   Mar 28 2008, 01:48 PM
00 Trans Ram   Someone on here mentioned putting an A/C unit in a...   Mar 28 2008, 08:07 PM
rushman   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Mar 28 2008, 02:07 ...   Mar 30 2008, 01:18 PM
T.O.Dillinder   Insulation is the key. Mine is insulated better th...   Apr 2 2008, 04:50 PM
vanwyk4257   Well, unfortunately after adding up the expense of...   Apr 2 2008, 04:58 PM
mitchntx   Build it right the first time. Compromises suck .....   Apr 3 2008, 03:04 AM
vanwyk4257   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Apr 2 2008, 11:04 PM) B...   Apr 3 2008, 03:52 AM
DavidDymaxion   Things I liked in my garage: I left out one cabin...   Apr 9 2008, 08:13 PM

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